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These days, the only thing you really need to start playing Necromunda is a second job...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/07/bring-ruin-to-the-underhivegw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-3/

Content of new book.

So it looks like if I want to play Enforcers, I won't need that book?

And hey we get a new (and chilled in an armchair) Becca Scott vid

Looks like some fun stuff in the new book

Owen Patten posted this:

Good lawd!

And only 570 euro for that moderately populated 2x4 ft board

 lord_blackfang wrote:
And only 570 euro for that moderately populated 2x4 ft board

Its pretty AF though.

that settles it for me though. ima drop sisters for this and make some quick stamps to make extra walls and scratch build extra stuff

and im sure i can pawn off the chaos and enforcers.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Looks like some fun stuff in the new book

True, especially the (more or less) slow transition of normal gangs into cults. Hybrid Juves...

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Looks like some fun stuff in the new book

True, especially the (more or less) slow transition of normal gangs into cults. Hybrid Juves...

Yep - that looks fun - to have your gang become one with the Hive Mind -

that table is a dream.
and is going to stay that way, at least for me.
570euros is a lot, but still less than a divorce.
Love lasts forever, plastic only sticks around 50,000 years or so.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
And only 570 euro for that moderately populated 2x4 ft board

Doesn't look fun to play on, either. The central area to the left looks interesting to fight over, the rest of the board just looks like places to hide in a corner for multiple rounds until your opponent gets bored and tries to rush you. Or at the far end, a place just to be shot.

 jeff white wrote:
that table is a dream.
and is going to stay that way, at least for me.
570euros is a lot, but still less than a divorce.
Love lasts forever, plastic only sticks around 50,000 years or so.

Are you man or mouse?

But yeah seriously my enthusiasm evaporated at the price.
Does look v nice though.

 Sqorgar wrote:
These days, the only thing you really need to start playing Necromunda is a second job...

Well played!

zamerion wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
That list of Necromunda rule books?

WTF?!?

I was thinking about starting this game, but now I don't have a clue where to start, what to get or if I should even bother!

The price of this new box is having me lean towards "no"...

You only need

N18 compilation books: Rules & Gangs (December 2018)

And
The Book of Peril (June 2019)
The Book of Judgement (August 2019)

If you want play with no core gangs, or have additional material.


Also in necromunda discord you have all the rules, with all the extra material, better explained in one PDF.

That sounds a lot better!

I can't seem to locate the "N18 compilation books: Rules & Gangs (December 2018)" book, unless it is these two books?




And will the 'new' book in Uprising change the books you 'have to have' list?

Especially if I'm mostly interested in Enforcers?

Those are the books.

Hopefully this time around the Helot and GSC gangs will be a bit better put together, rules-wise.

The idea of "corrupting" House gangs is a cool one, and I will probably fall for the ploy by picking up extras for my main House factions(Delaque & Goliath) to make culty conversions.

The most interesting thing to me is the Survivors of the Apocalypse mode, which might be a way to bring back some of that oldschool lower-tech feel for Underhive-set campaigns without having to go in and manually tweak loads of rarities and costs.

 Alpharius wrote:

And will the 'new' book in Uprising change the books you 'have to have' list?

Especially if I'm mostly interested in Enforcers?

The book where the Enforcers were introduced was Book of Judgment, and you would typically need that book to play the Enforcers.

I have no idea if the Dark Uprising book allows you to skip it or not, but it is entirely possible that all the Enforcer stats, equipment, skills, and whatnot (all 5 or 6 pages of it) will be reprinted in the Dark Uprising book, allowing you to skip Book of Judgment.

The new hardback book, Book of Ruin, will likely be in the same boat as Book of Judgment, but for the Corpsegrinder Cult.

Based on the stream and the contents, contrary to what they said last week, you need the the uprising box for the uprising campaign, the book of ruin only expands on the material in the box.

Now even I’m annoyed with them.

Sticker shock is a thing and boy is it bad here. Also GW really needs to consolidate all these different rules into one place. It's almost as if an app where you could buy and store all rule sources into one area in a well laid out and clean format is a good idea.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Owen Patten posted this:

Spoiler:

Good lawd!

Has anyone else noticed how hilariously the staging of that overall picture misrepresents the volume of terrain provided by two sets? The front two thirds of the play area are crammed full of terrain while the back third is all but empty. 600 dollars to fill less than 25% of your table

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Owen Patten posted this:

Spoiler:

Good lawd!

Has anyone else noticed how hilariously the staging of that overall picture misrepresents the volume of terrain provided by two sets? The front two thirds of the play area are crammed full of terrain while the back third is all but empty. 600 dollars to fill less than 25% of your table

Two thirds crammed plus one third empty equals three thirds adequately spaced though does it not?

Necro is generally played on 4x4. That's two sets to not even fill 2/3rds of half of that.

And it's still not clear if the new stand-alone book has the new campaign rules that are in the box.

 Yodhrin wrote:
The idea of "corrupting" House gangs is a cool one, and I will probably fall for the ploy by picking up extras for my main House factions(Delaque & Goliath) to make culty conversions.

I'll definitely fall for it. Though it was my plan from the beginning to 'desecrate' house gangs for Chaos and Genestealers. I hope there're not too many drawbacks in the rules (there should be some, but...).

N3p3nth3 wrote:
Based on the stream and the contents, contrary to what they said last week, you need the the uprising box for the uprising campaign, the book of ruin only expands on the material in the box.

Wait... what? That's absurd!

The book of ruin does have the full rules for the corpsegrinder cults though right? I have the 2 hardback books from 2018. Could care less about yet another campaign tbh, but there's no way i'm buying this boxed set at that price. I do like the khorne guys though, might want to start them.

I really feel this box highlights why the card tiles in the initial boxed set were a good idea. They kept the price of the box at a reasonable level. The terrain in this set seriously bloats the cost and the built in discount is too minimal to really notice.

 Thargrim wrote:
I really feel this box highlights why the card tiles in the initial boxed set were a good idea. They kept the price of the box at a reasonable level. The terrain in this set seriously bloats the cost and the built in discount is too minimal to really notice.

I think the Warcry starter box demonstrates that GW could sell this for $120 cheaper if they wanted to... but they don't want to.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Hopefully this time around the Helot and GSC gangs will be a bit better put together, rules-wise.

It's impossible to decipher what you mean by "put together," but in terms of functionality the GSC are currently one of the stronger gangs. I'd rank them 3rd after Van Saar and Goliath.

Familiars are the best credits you can spend in the game, getting free gangers from Settlements adds up to a ton of value over the course of a campaign, and a hip shooting web gun adept with a familiar is one of the strongest "single model" builds in the game (well, despite being two models... it still counts! pets are wargear)

The worst thing about them was the 1w champions, but that was more of an issue in the Gang War campaign; once Dominion became the default the problem of squishy champions vs. lost income over the course of a campaign mostly went away.

I hope one of those Dramatis Personae (Abomination of Badzone 12?) is a full-fledged genestealer.

I'd love it if the Genestealer Cult champs weren't glass cannons...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'd love it if the Genestealer Cult champs weren't glass cannons...

I agree with the "glass" part, but not so much the "cannon."

They don't have much going for them offensively... the basic "skilled Champion" BS 3+, and I guess S4 (which still sucks on a M4" profile).

Infiltrate is a good skill for alpha strikes.

With all the armour and defensive gear that has been introduced you can make them pretty durable. But, of course, you can do the same to every other Champion, and they'll still have 2 wounds.

I still think it's odd that many of these models haven't gotten 40k rules. Many of the people I've talked to would LOVE to have a unit of them attached to another army in a friendly game of 40k.

 Altruizine wrote:
I agree with the "glass" part, but not so much the "cannon."

Fair enough.

But it's like the GSC rules were written before they started giving multiple wounds to gang champs. They're all W1 and it's annoying.