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 streetsamurai wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
I don't know what kind of women you interact with, but there's nothing about these sculpts that define them as clearly female.

Welcome to GW female sculpting 101.

With experience maybe one day you'll also be able to spot a female fighter from Warcry The Unmade.

I've probably been collectioning GW minis for much much longer than you have

I commend your perseverance; it must be pretty challenging hobby for a blind person.

 streetsamurai wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
I don't know what kind of women you interact with, but there's nothing about these sculpts that define them as clearly female.

Welcome to GW female sculpting 101.

With experience maybe one day you'll also be able to spot a female fighter from Warcry The Unmade.

I've probably been collectioning GW minis for much much longer than you have


Is it me or is the stimmer a pretty bad sculpt?? Really don't like it

Lets all calm down here. We've all bought too many GW models for too long, and yes they really bad at sculpting women.

I didn't see it at first either and I'm on an actual computer, on a phone or something there's no way I'd see it.

Arguments over the gender of 3 inch tall models is exactly why boob plate is a necessary thing.

 Crimson wrote:

I commend your perseverance; it must be pretty challenging hobby for a blind person.

Seriously. Calm down.

Ain't no call to insult each other over toy soldiers.


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 Sqorgar wrote:
Arguments over the gender of 3 inch tall models is exactly why boob plate is a necessary thing.

1 inch. One and a quarter with the current scale inflation.

It's pretty pathetic to see how some reacted so strongly just because I stated that I'm not sure these minis are female.


Really shows that the hobby attract a lot of basement dwellers unfortunately

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
I don't know what kind of women you interact with, but there's nothing about these sculpts that define them as clearly female.

Welcome to GW female sculpting 101.

With experience maybe one day you'll also be able to spot a female fighter from Warcry The Unmade.

I've probably been collectioning GW minis for much much longer than you have


Is it me or is the stimmer a pretty bad sculpt?? Really don't like it

Lets all calm down here. We've all bought too many GW models for too long, and yes they really bad at sculpting women.

I didn't see it at first either and I'm on an actual computer, on a phone or something there's no way I'd see it.

It's her shoulders and jaw. Yeah some guys have a slim figure and some girls are bulkier but as far as classic physiques go it's pretty clear that the females have been sculpted to have slighter, slimmer, less broad, less muscular bodies.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
1 inch. One and a quarter with the current scale inflation.

I was thinking action figures, for some reason. You are right... though I'll bet those Goliath Stimmers come pretty close to 3".

Nah.

Those steroids will ensure ohhhhhhh, wrong train of thought

 streetsamurai wrote:
It's pretty pathetic to see how some reacted so strongly just because I stated that I'm not sure these minis are female.


Really shows that the hobby attract a lot of basement dwellers unfortunately

And how is your basement—that you doubled down on at least three times.

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It will be interesting seeing what the other gangs “specialists” will be—brute lite or something else all together. More importantly I hope we don’t have to wait long.

So we haven't even got the Goliath Zerker mini, and we're already got something to replace it? And I take it that these new Prospects replace Juves? Then there's the chance of them collecting all 6 of these expansions into a bigger Gangs of Necromunda 2: More Rules. And they haven't even finished releasing minis for the things in the first gang book.

Yeah... no. Not doing it.

The nickel & dime drip-feed early access DLC model for Newcromunda is fething awful, and I won't be part of it...

More like a Champ replacement / variant / stand-in model. Zerker is a brute with very limited loadout.

Chopstick wrote:
Zerker is a brute with very limited loadout.

And? So? But? Therefore?

That doesn't change the fact that we're getting more DLC when there are still gaps in the initial lineup of minis.

So they're just going to slowly rehash all the Gang War books? But with extra unique names for all profiles because that helps clarify things, and more unique weapons (so as not to expand, but simply replace the previous version of the rules), and one assumes some more unique Tactic cards but why not eh?

...

On a positive note, at least this release will be accompanied by (at least some of) the relevant miniatures.

May get additional Escher models if they look nice and offer some nice bits, but not touching any of these books. Wait a year and there'll be a new version. Maybe between now and the 5th iteration of each House Gang, we'll see actual figures for all their pets and brutes. One day, little Phyrr cats, one day...

I'm kind of glad they are going this route, going back and fleshing out the 6 house gangs...which are kind of the core of the setting to begin with. The single little sprue for each gang wasn't quite enough. The downside to this is of course the books. But if you only collect one gang, it's not much of a hit. But it seems like a lot of players collect multiple gangs. We are getting a lot of content for Necromunda though. If money is a problem then it's probably a smart idea to focus on one gang only.

Yeah, this new sprue, that apparently holds three minis, seems like a big improvement.

...not

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Zerker is a brute with very limited loadout.

And? So? But? Therefore?

That doesn't change the fact that we're getting more DLC when there are still gaps in the initial lineup of minis.

Yeah I agree. And if this also is a power creep, this dual wielding renderizer muscle champ could potentially beat the zerker in a duel!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Zerker is a brute with very limited loadout.

And? So? But? Therefore?

That doesn't change the fact that we're getting more DLC when there are still gaps in the initial lineup of minis.

Brute like zerker are limited to 1 per gang while this look like and is probably the closest thing we'll get to "plastic weapon upgrade" and extra model option for ganger.

If i had to choose between Gang exclusive Ambot 2.0 (zerker) , Kal Jericho 2.0(some overpriced hired guns) and updated roster and new generic fighter for the gangs. I'd choose the latter for plastic production. Especially with their limited quarterly release schedule.

But yes being a madlad and all people would actually want GW to spend the next 2-3 years to creeping out every single 1 per gang fighters and overpriced hired gun in plastic. Are they cool model to have in plastic? Yes. But not at the expense of other more useful/meaningful things. Actually keep releasing new gang is a better choice than that.

Still not the point.

Why are they going and adding more stuff when they haven't even finished releasing all the Gang stuff from the first year's worth of content?

Sounds good and looks cool.

But, how long before each gang gets their new book and models? 2/3 month gaps. That’s just disheartening.
2 gangs at a time in a book would at least be a bit better.

And they’d said about all the other content planned, the Guilds and whatnot. Let alone hitting on the Outlander stuff that they said would be till after all that. Now all this between it as well.

Great to show long term plans for support, but also, so long before stuff will all be here.
Makes me glad I never ended up starting Necromunda..

So will the Cawdor book have a new type of brute that isn't a Stig Shambler? Will we ever get a Stig Shambler mini? Will we get a Delaque Spyker mini before the inevidable Delaque book arrives in Q3 2021? Khimerix? Orlock Lugger? Will there be some other techn-rig for Van Saar before the Arachnirig sees the light of day (assuming it ever does at this point).

And we haven't even got to the missing exotic beasts yet. Hired Guns that have yet to see releases, and everything else.

Does this new Goliath brute replace the Zerker, thereby meaning that with each House book sections of the Gangs book will be invalidated, further decreasing its worth (just as the core book and gang book rendered the Gang War books obsolete)?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Does this new Goliath brute replace the Zerker, thereby meaning that with each House book sections of the Gangs book will be invalidated, further decreasing its worth (just as the core book and gang book rendered the Gang War books obsolete)?

Don't forget the small Goliath also replacing the Sum Kroc.

That makes zero sense and has nothing to do with what I said.

Your comparison about a generic new ganger type with option and loadout replacing a 1 per gang fighter with almost no option make as much sense.


A question that make sense : Is this Stimmer/Forgeborne replacing my Champ/Juve?

A question that make no sense : Is the Goliath zerker replacing my champ? Is this new generic fighter type replacing my 1 per gang brute?

Chopstick wrote:
Your comparison about a generic new ganger type with option and loadout replacing a 1 per gang fighter with almost no option make as much sense.


A question that make sense : Is this Stimmer/Forgeborne replacing my Champ/Juve?

A question that make no sense : Is the Goliath zerker replacing my champ? Is this new generic fighter type replacing my 1 per gang brute?

My guess is they're going to be, statistically or equipment-wise, better than taking a generic Juve but cost about the same.

So you can still take a Juve/Champion, it just won't be as good as taking your House-specific equivalent.

How releasing rules for this game is handled is pure insanity, but new models are always nice. And if someone wants traditional juves these new models will fit that purpose as well.

I don’t mean to criticize but aren’t Goliath’s an all dude faction, I think I remember that’s one of the reasons House Escher hates them. I’m pretty sure two of those Juves are female. I know everything is woke these days but doesn’t this go against fiction and canon? Will we see male Escher juves? (Shutter!)

Just out of curiosity, is there any other hobby out there where people complain as incessantly about getting new content? Do Dungeons and Dragons players go, "Ugh. More source books! Now they added a Monk class and new magic items? This DLC is nickel and dime-ing!"

John D Law wrote:
I don’t mean to criticize but aren’t Goliath’s an all dude faction, I think I remember that’s one of the reasons House Escher hates them. I’m pretty sure two of those Juves are female. I know everything is woke these days but doesn’t this go against fiction and canon? Will we see male Escher juves? (Shutter!)

Goliath is not an all men faction.

Escher gangs are female only cause Escher males have some kind of genetic disorder that makes them weaklings and babling idiots.

Still, I agree with you that female goliath doesnt fit at all with the theme of the gang

 Arbitrator wrote:


My guess is they're going to be, statistically or equipment-wise, better than taking a generic Juve but cost about the same.

So you can still take a Juve/Champion, it just won't be as good as taking your House-specific equivalent.

Well Enforcer should be an example of this system. They have Patrolman and Subjugator. Patrolman can also be upgraded into Subjugator.

Or just entirely new fighter type that co-exist with the current one.

 streetsamurai wrote:

Still, I agree with you that female goliath doesnt fit at all with the theme of the gang

How?