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 BrookM wrote:
Could you please take that discussion elsewhere already?

Discussion? That’s a far more polite and generous way of describing it than I would have chosen.

Anyhoo, I’m finding myself temporarily loosing interest in Necromunda simply because the stuff that’s available now is far less interesting to me than the things to come. I’m thinking my N17 excitement will come back with ten times the force once they get the (imho) boring old gangs out of the way and start releasing the guilds.

Yeah we played one test and didn’t even bother trying to start a campaign, no point with so few gangs. This feels like a soft launch with the actual game released towards the end of the year when all the gangs and Gang War books are out so we can start doing campaigns for real. Probably won’t be playing it at all until then. Sadly, because I was insanely hyped before release.

BrookM wrote:Could you please take that discussion elsewhere already?

reds8n wrote:Indeed.

Just in case anyone 'misses' this, with the page rollover.

Final in-thread warning - warnings and/or suspensions to follow.

 BrookM wrote:
Also, March preview is in:

Love the GSC miniatures so I welcome them as a new playable force! I just hope they plan to include these rules in GW3. Its bad enough to be carrying around 3-4 rulebooks to play the game, I'm not interested in adding old magazines to the pile.

If it ends up anything like Blood Bowl we'll get an almanac at the end of the year with all the books and magazine articles compiled into a single volume (and I'm sure GW won't be able to resist double dipping). I expect that will be followed with more gang war books next year (or maybe guild war), that include rules for new the factions and maybe some of the other settings they talked about.

New GSC tactics cards in WD was probably too much to hope for. I've only played 3 games of N17 so far but I'm not convinced that lack of non-generic, gang-specific cards will doom a gang to failure. GSC tactics cards would be nice though.

Cult Ambush tactics cards would be cool. There's so much they can do with that.

They could have a lot of fun with GSC tactics cards... fingers crossed they might out out a 'supplemental gangs pack', covering the three gangs that will feature in WD.

I would expect cards for the cults once they flesh the rules out for the other settings as they have said GSC will get different lists in there.

Another preview: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/26/forge-world-preview-the-hives-of-necromundafw-homepage-post-1/

The article mentions expanding Necromunda with Hangers-on but links to Hired Guns :/

Dvarlock and Doloran pattern weapons. Ooooh. Not heard those before.

 Haighus wrote:
Dvarlock and Doloran pattern weapons. Ooooh. Not heard those before.

It's from the DW: Overkill booklet.

So for now, the GSC rules are only in the White Dwarf for March, correct?

 TalonZahn wrote:
So for now, the GSC rules are only in the White Dwarf for March, correct?

Yes.

Nice to finally have the rules for Rending. Kind of sleazy of GW to only release it through another paid content.

Web Pistol and Bolt Pistol are missing. Power Pick can't be taken by the leader, despite the model being able to take it. Little weird IMO.

Baxx wrote:
Nice to finally have the rules for Rending. Kind of sleazy of GW to only release it through another paid content.

It's not 'sleazy'. It not being in GW2 was a mistake.

Or, to put it another way, never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to incompetence (or rather, in this case, a lack of proof reading). I mean, do you honestly think they purposefully didn't include rending because they were going to put it in a WD article???

I bought the book, they haven't given it to me for free. So far, only way of getting is it to pay for the magazine.

Not sure why they included it in the book anyways, since the only model with a chainsword doesn't even have the trait.

Btw we now have two different definitions from Blasting charges, 3" blast in White Dwarf, 5" blast in Gang War 2.

They most likely kept GSC out due to page count. Some lower end printers will print things in multiples of 4, while big printers want books to be in multiples of 16. If you try and have a different amount or pages, it can raise the cost of printing something a lot, or you will have to have a bunch of blank pages in the back. GW2 is 48 pages, or 16x3. So that's probably what happened. If they added another 16 pages, it would prolly be a $50 book.

Glad they added GSC though, even though it's just WD. Better than not at all

I thought it was planned for White Dwarf all along?

Yep, was always meant to be in white dwarf and is the first of three White Dwarf exclusive gangs (I am sure they will be in the Gang War Compendium as well though).

They also mentioned that a fuller and different style of GSC gang may appear when they cover the Genestealer infected hive later on (the White Dwarf article covers an infected group of miners).

The rules are a bit more bland than I would have liked. But hey, at least they gives us some much needed diversity


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 Necros wrote:
They most likely kept GSC out due to page count. Some lower end printers will print things in multiples of 4, while big printers want books to be in multiples of 16. If you try and have a different amount or pages, it can raise the cost of printing something a lot, or you will have to have a bunch of blank pages in the back. GW2 is 48 pages, or 16x3. So that's probably what happened. If they added another 16 pages, it would prolly be a $50 book.

Glad they added GSC though, even though it's just WD. Better than not at all

No, it was always meant to be a WD exclusive. As you can see with the lack of tactical cards and dices, they never intended to give GSC the same support as the other factions

Baxx wrote:
I bought the book, they haven't given it to me for free. So far, only way of getting is it to pay for the magazine.

So, aside from thinking there are 16 different 'versions' of Necromunda, you truly believe that GW intentionally left the rending rule out of GW2 and put it into these Genestealer Cult rules to get some more money out of you?

You actually think this was intentional?

 streetsamurai wrote:
No, it was always meant to be a WD exclusive. As you can see with the lack of tactical cards and dices, they never intended to give GSC the same support as the other factions

That'd be kind of an odd thing for Forge World to do, considering they've repeatedly said they wanted to explore the other hives of Necromunda. An article, which was released today, specifically mentioned Genestealer-infested Hive Seconuds. And at the Hours Heresy/Neomunda weekender, there were rumors posted saying that there would be a Gensetealer Cult sprue specifically designed to work the Orlock bodies and weapons. It's more likely that they're waiting to get all of the House gangs (and possibly the Palatine Enforcers), before turning to the other Hives and possibly doing a series of Index Armour-like books for the other hives.

But this is just rules for Genestealer Cults in main Necromunda. Hive Secondus is a ways off.

GSC are pretty bad. Adept and Acolyte are short range focused but they're not very tanky, or killy.

Acolyte with 1 W, 1A, no access to wargear meant they can't get extra arm, and all of other useful juice.

Same for aberrant, no armor and no wargear meant they become a duck for any shotgun hunter to take down. They're also very expensive.

On the plus side, Neophyte ganger are good, with 5+ Cl and mass auto/las/shot gun in first game your best bet will be trying to potshot Leader/Champ and cripple their economy.

Also lot of typo, needle pistol still S4.

"Web" rule is also confusing. I assume the +1 for capture apply for "OOA ganger that was coup de grace while webbed"

I can't wait for the rules to be finished, edited and published as one book.

Looking at what, 2020?

Aeneades wrote:
Yep, was always meant to be in white dwarf and is the first of three White Dwarf exclusive gangs (I am sure they will be in the Gang War Compendium as well though).

They also mentioned that a fuller and different style of GSC gang may appear when they cover the Genestealer infected hive later on (the White Dwarf article covers an infected group of miners).

Three gangs?

GS cults, Chaos Cults and who?

Bounty hunter aka Your Dude gang.

Just received my gw2. Its a bit light on fluff. Hopefully the next ones will contain more of it