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 Galas wrote:
No Hooded head? These Primaris Upgrade Packs are a little disappointing. No chest pieces, just the same heads with a little variety... I prefer the old ones.

Why would you want moarr hoodies? You get loads of them with the Deathwing Knights and Veterans kit. . I don't mind having one or two, but I'd much prefer helmets.

Will keep update the first post with summary

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Galas wrote:
No Hooded head? These Primaris Upgrade Packs are a little disappointing. No chest pieces, just the same heads with a little variety... I prefer the old ones.

Why would you want moarr hoodies? You get loads of them with the Deathwing Knights and Veterans kit. . I don't mind having one or two, but I'd much prefer helmets.

I would definitely like a Mk X helmeted hoodie.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Galas wrote:
No Hooded head? These Primaris Upgrade Packs are a little disappointing. No chest pieces, just the same heads with a little variety... I prefer the old ones.

Why would you want moarr hoodies? You get loads of them with the Deathwing Knights and Veterans kit. . I don't mind having one or two, but I'd much prefer helmets.

I'm assuming because he'd like hooded and helmeted heads, since the armor is distinctive.

I'd have liked some robed bodies as well personally.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Galas wrote:
No Hooded head? These Primaris Upgrade Packs are a little disappointing. No chest pieces, just the same heads with a little variety... I prefer the old ones.

Why would you want moarr hoodies? You get loads of them with the Deathwing Knights and Veterans kit. . I don't mind having one or two, but I'd much prefer helmets.

I'm assuming because he'd like hooded and helmeted heads, since the armor is distinctive.

I'd have liked some robed bodies as well personally.

Eventually, the Primaris kits will probably replace original SM kits. What I would like to see is something that is basically a Primaris Company Veterans kit, with a bunch of robed Primaris Marines with a bunch of different weapon options.

I'm an old fan of dark angels... do this mean the lion is coming back????? Or is this just the usual waste of money of an useless book??

antohammer wrote:
I'm an old fan of dark angels... do this mean the lion is coming back????? Or is this just the usual waste of money of an useless book??

Why would the book be worthless if the Lion isn't coming back?

I don't want the Lion back in this book, it would be terrible. Give me next year with a campaign book, a triumverate boxset and a real story as to why he is awake and ready to lead the First Legion.

 bullyboy wrote:
I don't want the Lion back in this book, it would be terrible. Give me next year with a campaign book, a triumverate boxset and a real story as to why he is awake and ready to lead the First Legion.

Agreed. This would be a much better way to introduce him. My concern is they might not. Carl Tuttle of the Independent Characters was saying that as of six months ago GW had no plans to return any other loyalist primarchs. Obviously that was then and this was now (and the fantastic sales from Guilliman probably changed some minds), but since they tend to have things planned out so far in advance, it's a little disheartening to hear that as late as this year no other primarchs were in the works.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Galas wrote:
No Hooded head? These Primaris Upgrade Packs are a little disappointing. No chest pieces, just the same heads with a little variety... I prefer the old ones.

Why would you want moarr hoodies? You get loads of them with the Deathwing Knights and Veterans kit. . I don't mind having one or two, but I'd much prefer helmets.

I would definitely like a Mk X helmeted hoodie.

Yeah, in Dark Angels my ranking of heads goes like this:
1-Hooded helmet
2-Helmet with wings
3-Normal Helmet
4-Hooded head
5-Normal bare head
A shame the primaris sprue only comes with two 5's and one 3.

But as Kanluwen said my problem is not with the lack of hooded heads, because of that we can have many, but with a lack of robed primaris bodies. Those are much harder, without greenstuff, to do.

Galas this is exactly my problem too. Especially since the robed bodies from the Veterans box are such old sculpts, it really shows. Have you tried your hand at Greenstuff robes? How did it go? I'm kind of afraid to try.

Edit: Sorry this is off topic and I can't figure out how to delete it.

Man, they are really cranking these out. Good for them, but I hope quality doesn't suffer.

Then again, marine codexes should just copy+paste most universial weapon and unit options, and just adjust their unique units accordingly.

And this has got to put the ridiculous lion primarch rumors to bed. If he were coming out, geedubz would have certainly at LEAST teased something by now.

I certainly hope that DA gets something more than reroll 1:s if they didn't move. If that is our chapter trait, then what does that give Ravenwing and Deathwing???

Well. Ravenwing have Jink and Deathwing are inmune to morale. They'll have their own gimminicks, I'm sure.

Yeah, but jink and no moral are not really the best of traits.

Agusto wrote:
Yeah, but jink and no moral are not really the best of traits.

IDK about that, having terminators that never, EVER run away sounds pretty useful so me. Only way to get rid of them is to shove them off the table.

I think we'll see some developments, besides a (relatively) weak basic rule can be hugely improved by the right strategem, HQ buff etc.

Let's wait until we see further before jumping to conclusions!

 Nah Man Pichu wrote:

Agusto wrote:
Yeah, but jink and no moral are not really the best of traits.

IDK about that, having terminators that never, EVER run away sounds pretty useful so me.

Sounds like it on paper, but in practice, It's close to useless. If you take 5 man terminator squads, like many do, then your immune to morale anyways unless you lost 4 terms in 1 trun and roll a 6 or the opponent has negative morale modifiers. neither of which is going to be common. Deathwing need a lot more than immune to morale to be able to stand on their own.

The big issue is that it gives no bonus to HQ units, since they don't take moral at all, and jink is (almost) useless if you have anything else than flamers on your models. But, as stated, lets wait and see Fingers crossed though...

In the Fluff, apparently RG gave overall command of everything in the Imperium on the "Dark" side of the Rift to Dante.

I could see Lion El Johnson waking up and trying to assert his authority on that half of the Imperium with Dante not quite wanting to give up his authority without the blessing of RG. And since RG and the Lion don't exactly see eye-to-eye on stuff that might be easier said than done.

Where are we getting the information that Deathwing is fearless? I was hoping they'd get something mre significant than that!

They have that rule already on the Index.

Oh right. I was wondering if they released those rules for the codex.

 Lance845 wrote:
I had a theory awhile ago that Cypher was actually a psychic manifestation of the Lion while his body was comatose.

Which explains why he pops up and disappears all over the place, cannot really be captured, has the Lions sword, and often seems to lead the DA on a merry chase where they end up where they would be most needed anyway.

Mind. Blown.

I had never thought of it that way before.

Cypher is the love child of the Lion and a Sister of Silence. Boom.

Daddy issues.

I gotta say, I HATE the hood head on that new named lieutenant.

I think it's real out of place to see a dark angel smiling.

 Nah Man Pichu wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
I don't want the Lion back in this book, it would be terrible. Give me next year with a campaign book, a triumverate boxset and a real story as to why he is awake and ready to lead the First Legion.

Agreed. This would be a much better way to introduce him. My concern is they might not. Carl Tuttle of the Independent Characters was saying that as of six months ago GW had no plans to return any other loyalist primarchs. Obviously that was then and this was now (and the fantastic sales from Guilliman probably changed some minds), but since they tend to have things planned out so far in advance, it's a little disheartening to hear that as late as this year no other primarchs were in the works.

We have Russ&Angron from Hasting's list to come along. Those are likely next year's arrivals.

 Lance845 wrote:
I gotta say, I HATE the hood head on that new named lieutenant.

I think it's real out of place to see a dark angel smiling.

Agreed, I thought it was a joke when I first saw it.

My buddy and I have already named him Brother Lieutenant Herpusderpus. It is a terrible figure (could maaaaybe be the paint, but I doubt it).

 Lance845 wrote:
I gotta say, I HATE the hood head on that new named lieutenant.

I think it's real out of place to see a dark angel smiling.

Agreed. Though maybe that is the point. He has no idea what the burden of the Chapter is. Though Dark Angels are sourpusses at a genetic level. It is a good thing that there are tons of good Dark Angel heads that look the part much better. My biggest disappointment is that the helmet doesn't have a hood too. The fact that they didn't put a hoodie helmet on the upgrade kit is really disappointing too.

I wonder which Primaris kits will get a Dark Angels version. My guess is Intercessors, Hellblasters, and Inceptors. Why they didn't put the Aggressors with Dark Angels and Inceptors with Blood Angels is beyond me.

I am still hoping for an exclusive Dark Angels Redemptor with double ranged weapons.

So now that we're sure Blood Angels are next up, any chance there's a title/thread change?