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Dark Angels are coming!

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- Warhammer Community articles -

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/03/coming-soon-hunt-begins-anew/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/04/chapter-focus-dark-angels/

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Sorry to see Sableclaw go, although I am curious as to why. There is a model for it.

Super Psyched to see those rumors for Lion'el Johnson. He looks like a super-buffer for Dark Angels. Add a standard of Devastation and they will rock the shooting phase. not to mention his ability to throw out mortal wounds in both shooting and melee.
   
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I think it's fake or at least not entirely accurate, it's too rough. Like upgrading to a command squad when the command squad options already exist, or a stratagem to ignore mortal wounds from plasma overheat... which causes instant death rather than mortals. The warlord trait to give 5+ fnp to him and all units within 9" is blatantly OP, while Lion giving +3 cp AND refunding cp on a 4+ just seems like wishlisting.

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Too wishlisty in my opinion. Looks like guessing based on the marine book with some faction bias thrown in. That FNP warlord trait would be the best in the game by quite a margin.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I think it's fake or at least not entirely accurate, it's too rough. Like upgrading to a command squad when the command squad options already exist, or a stratagem to ignore mortal wounds from plasma overheat... which causes instant death rather than mortals. The warlord trait to give 5+ fnp to him and all units within 9" is blatantly OP, while Lion giving +3 cp AND refunding cp on a 4+ just seems like wishlisting.


I wish this to be fake. This is a hell of a ton of OP stuff that I don't want for my army. I want my army to be balanced and fun, this is just straight out OP.

I'm pretty sure The Lion is gonna be OP. But I'll prefer him to be Mortarion OP rather tan Guilliman or Magnus OP.

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The Lion being there pretty much proves this is fake. If he was going to be released we'd already know about it.
   
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Like I mentioned in the other thread, gonna take a grain of salt with this. Some of this might be legitimate while others might be just wishlisting that the rumormonger threw in, in some hopes that GW will see it and throw it in for some reason.

Having The Lion being released is not completely out of the question, but it would be a surprise since all of the primarchs were leaked months before they were officially announced if I remember.

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Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.


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Considering the rumors include mentions of Jink rolls and Cover saves, I'm going to bet this is false

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I thought I read online that they retcon'ed the lion being alive in stasis on the rock, and now he's just dead.
   
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Looks similar to original tyranid leaks which were often posted incomplete and had restrictions that we're not mentioned in the leaks.

If real likely each rule that sounds op is incomplete and someone just remembering the benefit and not the restrictions.

Ironically the thing for me that makes it seem legit is Lionel johnsen. The rumor engine pics could be adornments for that model.

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all of this is utter horse poo lol

   
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 Formosa wrote:
all of this is utter horse poo lol

Yep, definitely seems like it.

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The real giveaway is that they would get the Overwatch buff AND a Commisar buff.

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Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The real giveaway is that they would get the Overwatch buff AND a Commisar buff.

Iyanden got the Commissar buff and Valhallan buff, so...it's not that unbelievable.

What makes it extremely sketchy to me is the Lion.
   
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From one of the people commenting on far it who thinks they've seen a snippet of the primarch: https://dragonseyeminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/i-wonder-who-this-is.html?m=1 could be a conversion but my knowledge of bits is shoddy.
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Would be cool but feels wrong. Double shooting and reroll hit and wound....not so much. They had time on this one since Gulliman and won't make that mistake again. Not only that but he gets Gulliman buffs but also invul saves buff for his boys. Meh....

Also I feel primarch releases are generally meant for fluff advancement t at this point. So I'm not sure how the lion fits. I think this is another gk/admech update with nothing much to show.

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Dudeface wrote:
From one of the people commenting on far it who thinks they've seen a snippet of the primarch: https://dragonseyeminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/i-wonder-who-this-is.html?m=1 could be a conversion but my knowledge of bits is shoddy.
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Nope, it's a conversion.


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Wow... That... Is amazing. I hope this is true.

Also might be a good time to repaint my White Scars as successors.

   
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Dudeface wrote:
From one of the people commenting on far it who thinks they've seen a snippet of the primarch: https://dragonseyeminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/i-wonder-who-this-is.html?m=1 could be a conversion but my knowledge of bits is shoddy.
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Good find, bit of a let down but was just passing the info on
   
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Yeah, calling bull on this. Lion being basically Guilliman but better and a stratagem to deep strike closer than 9" make it super obvious.

   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The real giveaway is that they would get the Overwatch buff AND a Commisar buff.

Iyanden got the Commissar buff and Valhallan buff, so...it's not that unbelievable.

What makes it extremely sketchy to me is the Lion.

Ilyaden has the Commisar buff, not something else relevant to the discussion. So the Marines would get that AND an Overwatch bonus.

No it's bunk.


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If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

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BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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The way I know it is bunk. Masterful Marksmanship. Dark Angels do not have Sternguard. They do not have Special Issue Boltguns.

Bunk.

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plus he's dead, dead primarchs don't get to come back.
   
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Right behind you.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The real giveaway is that they would get the Overwatch buff AND a Commisar buff.

Iyanden got the Commissar buff and Valhallan buff, so...it's not that unbelievable.

What makes it extremely sketchy to me is the Lion.

Ilyaden has the Commisar buff, not something else relevant to the discussion. So the Marines would get that AND an Overwatch bonus.

No it's bunk.



Iyanden has two separate perks going on.

Why do you think it would be so strange for Dark Angels to get two perks?


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Niexist wrote:
plus he's dead, dead primarchs don't get to come back.

He's actually not dead. He's at the center of the Rock, tended to strictly by the Watchers in the Dark. Last mention was that he's actually showing signs that he might wake up.

The dead Loyalist Primarchs are Ferrus, Sanguinius and Dorn with Corax, Vulkan, the Khan, Russ, and Lion being MIA now that Guilliman's awake.

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Was Dorn confirmed as dead? I remember that they only found his hand.
He could had just lost one hand.

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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I believe it’s been retconned so they only have his hand rather than corpse.
   
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Yeah, this is not happening. Too far out nowadays. When's the last time we had a long range (more than early preview copy time frame) rumor that came true?

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 Galas wrote:
Was Dorn confirmed as dead? I remember that they only found his hand.
He could had just lost one hand.


Dorn's alive. He's just hiding in the Imperial Palace in Centurion armor.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The real giveaway is that they would get the Overwatch buff AND a Commisar buff.

Iyanden got the Commissar buff and Valhallan buff, so...it's not that unbelievable.

What makes it extremely sketchy to me is the Lion.

Ilyaden has the Commisar buff, not something else relevant to the discussion. So the Marines would get that AND an Overwatch bonus.

No it's bunk.



Iyanden has two separate perks going on.

Why do you think it would be so strange for Dark Angels to get two perks?


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Niexist wrote:
plus he's dead, dead primarchs don't get to come back.

He's actually not dead. He's at the center of the Rock, tended to strictly by the Watchers in the Dark. Last mention was that he's actually showing signs that he might wake up.

The dead Loyalist Primarchs are Ferrus, Sanguinius and Dorn with Corax, Vulkan, the Khan, Russ, and Lion being MIA now that Guilliman's awake.


Actually according to the latest fluff he is dead, this is taken from his 1d4chan article.

"The author Gav Thorpe said in a recent interview that "the Lion is dead" which is at odds with fluff given in codices and Luther's own ravings, though that statement was not unequivocal, as the answer given in the interview was specifically with how 40k Dark Angels deal with various layers of revelation within the circles of the Chapter. So the Lion's "death at the hands of Horus" and that "Horus blew up Caliban" are the first thing that Dark Angels have to come to terms with, but eventually find out that they had been lied to and that knowledge is specifically withheld from them to let them be good space Marines "here and now" rather than thinking about the existential problems of the past. So the Lion's "death" is still as uncertain as ever.

( http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/4/c/e/4ce8f98c68676bdd/Ep_133_-_Legacy_of_Caliban_wGav_Thorpe.mp3?c_id=11000551&expiration=1456327494&hwt=dc63c5caa6e74be2ced10b4aae7b3964 ) (fast forward to 00:37:09)

The idea that the Lion is actually dead and gone is unfortunately backed up by "The Eye of Ezekiel" that suggests that the dying Lion gave Cypher a final important mission to complete before he died."
   
 
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