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Tyran wrote:
Conscripts up to 4 points. Lol they went from the best infantry option to worthless for AM players in less than half year.

Maybe if people didn't spam them. GW seems hellbent on nerfing the gak out of things that competitive players abuse.

Haha, well, GK got completely let down again. We're still Codex: Supreme Command Detachment Dreadknights.

Thanks for pics!

EDIT: In case anyone was curious, our only unique change was Terminators went down 5PPM to 41.

Requizen wrote:
Necrons points please :(

Everything is linked, I believe. Just start clicking.

Also, they said Cawl went up in points but if you look at the leaks, he actually went DOWN by 10 points! (250 -> 240). They can't even properly proofread/test a book meant to be about balancing the game.

Wayniac wrote:
Also, they said Cawl went up in points but if you look at the leaks, he actually went DOWN by 10 points! (250 -> 240).

Likewise, Celestine went up but the Gemini went down so the cost of the full unit is still the same.

Also, the abscence of T'au and Necrons basically confirms that they're next after Daemons. Since they're missing along with BA, DA and Nids.

 pretre wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Necrons points please :(

Everything is linked, I believe. Just start clicking.

Nothing in CA on Tau or Necrons (just FW units) -

also



according to the same guy posting all the images on the CA, but time will tell.

Dissappointing.

No point changes for TS, only confirming Exalted sorcerers going up in points, and changes for the Force weapons, a bit cheaper. I guess that's better than nothing. But no point cost for the aspiring champion (index cost is 30 pts, in the CSM codex no points for him)... I hope the status of the rubric marines unit would be clarifyed elsewhere in the book (Can TS armies take the unit using the entry in the CSM codex? or cannot?). And as said before, the warlord traits and etc. are pretty much useless.

Not very happy with this

Ignore this.

Audustum wrote:
Haha, well, GK got completely let down again. We're still Codex: Supreme Command Detachment Dreadknights.

Thanks for pics!

EDIT: In case anyone was curious, our only unique change was Terminators went down 5PPM to 41.

Yeah. I don't even know if I can describe that as "a good start".

Preeety underwhelming.

 pretre wrote:

 rollawaythestone wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
Anyone who got a peek see anything about Adeptus Mechanicus?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb5U_nflpU2/

Thanks pretre!

Bummed that Harlequins got cut off in the picture.

Spoiler:

Source: FTGT Evan on FB

Spoilered everything.

Not impressed by the Guard changes. Not impressed at all. Good to see that Conscripthammer is screwing us over still.

Ta'unar is up points? WTF, man? It was already a bit on the underpowered side. At least everything comparable got an even bigger price hike.

Also, Alphabet Soup of Tzeentch took one of the most impressive trips to Nerfsville I've ever seen. Yikes.

 Nogil wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Necrons points please :(

Everything is linked, I believe. Just start clicking.

Nothing in CA on Tau or Necrons (just FW units) -

Spoiler:

Why? Next two codices after Daemons, might announce tomorrow on games day?

also

Spoiler:

That's my job anon. Furthermore, I hope you like that swing twice, and attack a 3rd time Berserkers have, Death Company have it.

according to the same guy posting all the images on the CA, but time will tell.

Death Company with the Khorne Berzerkers hability? wow.

Will Martel receive at last a competitive meele-centered BA codex? (I know in the past they had one... but thats loooong in the past)

My poor Typhon

Hope that reduction in special pistol price also applies to blood angels.

 Galas wrote:


Death Company with the Khorne Berzerkers hability? wow.

Will Martel receive at last a competitive meele-centered BA codex? (I know in the past they had one... but thats loooong in the past)

lol. At this point every time I see BA news I think... "Martel will never be happy with this".

MilkmanAl wrote:
Ta'unar is up points? WTF, man? It was already a bit on the underpowered side. At least everything comparable got an even bigger price hike.

Also, Alphabet Soup of Tzeentch took one of the most impressive trips to Nerfsville I've ever seen. Yikes.

Yes. Richly deserved but still a surprisingly heavy nerf - not because it’s unreasonable but because it feels kind of rude to FW. “Hey guys you got this so wrong I’m going to have to double it’s points and keep going.”

As for not seeing any changes for Tau, I just hope that means their book isn’t too far off. Nobody could think their unit costs are correct right now.

There are a couple things that they seem to have just decided to strike from the game. Razorwing Flocks were the first. Now Conscripts and a bunch of FW stuff (including lots of superheavies). They're not technically taking the units away but it seems clear that the intention is to render them unplayable.

Why no Tau or Necron points changes though?

Darsath wrote:
Why no Tau or Necron points changes though?

I think that nearly confirmes them as the next codex after Daemons.

Darsath wrote:
Why no Tau or Necron points changes though?

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/690/744037.page#9712906

Darsath wrote:
Why no Tau or Necron points changes though?

Because they're codex will be out at the end of Jan/beginning of Feb.

 Sim-Life wrote:

Darsath wrote:
Why no Tau or Necron points changes though?

Because they're codex will be out at the end of Jan/beginning of Feb.

Don't really feel that answers it though.

Tau and Necrons are among the most popular and least niche of the remaining Index armies, so they're good choices. Orks are strangely absent though.

Think we can safely say all the Faet leak of the book contents 3 weeks ago was accurate.

Darsath wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:

Darsath wrote:
Why no Tau or Necron points changes though?

Because they're codex will be out at the end of Jan/beginning of Feb.

Don't really feel that answers it though.

Why would they bother updating the points of units that alreafy have updated points coming out in a few month? Or would you rather just have a bunch of T'au and Necron players whining on the forums about how they bought CA just to have it invalidated a month later?

Because Tau and Necrons are getting a Codex after BA, DA, and Daemons.

Wow...nerf malefic lords into unplayable, yet LOWER points for the Primaris Psyker....WTF??

 quickfuze wrote:
Wow...nerf malefic lords into unplayable, yet LOWER points for the Primaris Psyker....WTF??

Uhh, no. Primaris got raised. You forget that unlike a Malefic Lord, the Primaris Psyker has wargear that is not included in that price. He used to be 40 points with all wargear, now he's 38 without.

It's not as bad as what they did to Malefics, but it is a raise.

The Primaris Psyker went from 40 to 46, wargear included.

So after looking that over, it looks like GW just arbitrarily said FETH Forge World. Which is nothing more than a blatant cash grab for them. Yes I know they are the same parent company, but they maintain separate balance and asset sheets. By making the FW stuff essentially unplayable, you will buy GW proper models. Why again should I listen to point adjustments from a company when it is obvious what they are doing?