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changemod wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Well, yeah, but then the GW contemptor doesn't fit the FW look of their contemptors and we still have those.

Buying an Achillus and swapping the spear for a Kheres would fix the visual issue at least I guess....... Pricey though.

Yeah, I thought of that too. Too bad the arms don't really look right. The custodes dreadnought is much slimmer. I ended up just having a spear dread and an assault cannon dread and accepted the look. Keeping my fingers crossed that the telamon gets 40k rules.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I wonder if GW would try to cut corners again by shoehorning in another Marine vehicle. I'd hate to see it, but including most of the Repulser kit with some Custodes upgrade sprue/weapons doesn't exactly sound out of the question.

I sure hope not. If there is anything left Holy on Terra then they will keep the Cawl Fluff Disaster far away from the Custodes. It makes absolutely no sense they would use stupid nu-marine designs instead of ancient vehicles designed pre-heresy.

 Kirasu wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I wonder if GW would try to cut corners again by shoehorning in another Marine vehicle. I'd hate to see it, but including most of the Repulser kit with some Custodes upgrade sprue/weapons doesn't exactly sound out of the question.

I sure hope not. If there is anything left Holy on Terra then they will keep the Cawl Fluff Disaster far away from the Custodes. It makes absolutely no sense they would use stupid nu-marine designs instead of ancient vehicles designed pre-heresy.

Screw fluff if it means I don't have to pay 800 billion dollars to buy a tank from england, wait 18 months for it ship, and then have it melt into a puddle on the way to the FLGS, just to have a second transport option for the custodes.

I would love to see a Custodes Repulsor variant!

Depending on how closely the 40k Custodes hold to the less dogmatic old Imperial truth, they could be less resistant to new tech then other parts of the Imperium. That said I would also prefer if they did not use any more existing kits, just to differentiate them more on the table top from all the SM forces.

If Land Raiders are the only option, I’m converting Repulsors for them (I don’t like the LR at all really). Not my conversion, it was posted on B&C:

 cuda1179 wrote:

changemod wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Well, yeah, but then the GW contemptor doesn't fit the FW look of their contemptors and we still have those.

Buying an Achillus and swapping the spear for a Kheres would fix the visual issue at least I guess....... Pricey though.

Yeah, I thought of that too. Too bad the arms don't really look right. The custodes dreadnought is much slimmer. I ended up just having a spear dread and an assault cannon dread and accepted the look. Keeping my fingers crossed that the telamon gets 40k rules.

Saw this conversion on the Custodes Facebook group, looks good to me. I hope all the dreads get 40k rules.

That converted Land Raider is awesome!

Agreed. I like that Land Raider Repulsor variant.

Not feeling the Repulsor myself. But the regular Contemptor weapons look good on the Custodes version. Its just a shame that FW don't sell the body by itself. Still if either of the regular Contemptor options turn out to be a must take in the army, I think the FW relic version with a gold paint job should fit fairly well.

Venerable Stormraven anyone?

I have two which are just itching for that gold paintjob. Would be an easy way to mix in some real dakka as well. I still think they're a decent take after the points hike.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Yeah, I thought of that too. Too bad the arms don't really look right. The custodes dreadnought is much slimmer

Slimmer how?

It's literally contemptor with extraneous, useless armor plates bolted on something that was already thick armour, making its legs and torso proportions so warped it looks like something from early 80s anime. For all the haters comments on Tau suits looking like gundams, Achillus/Galatus actually is pretty close to having actual gundam look and proportions thanks to comically oversized lower legs and pauldrons:

 Kirasu wrote:
I sure hope not. If there is anything left Holy on Terra then they will keep the Cawl Fluff Disaster far away from the Custodes. It makes absolutely no sense they would use stupid nu-marine designs instead of ancient vehicles designed pre-heresy.

Care to show us on this mini where Inceptors touched you?

I'd have ANY of Cawl's toys before FW stuff in 40K Custodes range, most of it looks like garbage, it's terribly expensive and fragile, looks NOTHING like Custode vehicle art, or even like actual Imperial vehicles, and insults the intelligence of player putting it together because most of them would be crap designs in-universe, actively blocking the pilots from hitting anything and not letting passengers disembark safely. No. Just no. I hope nothing besides gun Custodes and (maybe) small speeder gets rules, and even then I'd pick both from SM range to convert before touching FW gak ideas.

 Irbis wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Yeah, I thought of that too. Too bad the arms don't really look right. The custodes dreadnought is much slimmer

Slimmer how?

It's literally contemptor with extraneous, useless armor plates bolted on something that was already thick armour, making its legs and torso proportions so warped it looks like something from early 80s anime. For all the haters comments on Tau suits looking like gundams, Achillus/Galatus actually is pretty close to having actual gundam look and proportions thanks to comically oversized lower legs and pauldrons:

 Kirasu wrote:
I sure hope not. If there is anything left Holy on Terra then they will keep the Cawl Fluff Disaster far away from the Custodes. It makes absolutely no sense they would use stupid nu-marine designs instead of ancient vehicles designed pre-heresy.

Care to show us on this mini where Inceptors touched you?

I'd have ANY of Cawl's toys before FW stuff in 40K Custodes range, most of it looks like garbage, it's terribly expensive and fragile, looks NOTHING like Custode vehicle art, or even like actual Imperial vehicles, and insults the intelligence of player putting it together because most of them would be crap designs in-universe, actively blocking the pilots from hitting anything and not letting passengers disembark safely. No. Just no. I hope nothing besides gun Custodes and (maybe) small speeder gets rules, and even then I'd pick both from SM range to convert before touching FW gak ideas.

Care to show us on this mini where the FW Custodes touched you...

As the owner of 6 regular contemptor dreads and two Custodes Contemptors, they're absolutely thinker in limb and have proportions close enough to a power armoured human you might mistake them for some kind of terminator if it wasn't for the size.

wasn't there a rumour of razorbacks? or a picture of one at least? - if not for the Custodis then would make sense for SoS

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Yeah, I thought of that too. Too bad the arms don't really look right. The custodes dreadnought is much slimmer

Slimmer how?

It's literally contemptor with extraneous, useless armor plates bolted on something that was already thick armour, making its legs and torso proportions so warped it looks like something from early 80s anime. For all the haters comments on Tau suits looking like gundams, Achillus/Galatus actually is pretty close to having actual gundam look and proportions thanks to comically oversized lower legs and pauldrons:

 Kirasu wrote:
I sure hope not. If there is anything left Holy on Terra then they will keep the Cawl Fluff Disaster far away from the Custodes. It makes absolutely no sense they would use stupid nu-marine designs instead of ancient vehicles designed pre-heresy.

Care to show us on this mini where Inceptors touched you?

I'd have ANY of Cawl's toys before FW stuff in 40K Custodes range, most of it looks like garbage, it's terribly expensive and fragile, looks NOTHING like Custode vehicle art, or even like actual Imperial vehicles, and insults the intelligence of player putting it together because most of them would be crap designs in-universe, actively blocking the pilots from hitting anything and not letting passengers disembark safely. No. Just no. I hope nothing besides gun Custodes and (maybe) small speeder gets rules, and even then I'd pick both from SM range to convert before touching FW gak ideas.

Care to show us on this mini where the FW Custodes touched you...

leopard wrote:
wasn't there a rumour of razorbacks? or a picture of one at least? - if not for the Custodis then would make sense for SoS

Not for the Custodes. If they don't fit in Rhinos then Razorbacks are also out. But they would make sense for the SoS when GW get round to them(or the Immolator if GW ever get round to updating the SoB)

Side note: I'll step back my dislike of the Land Raider in a Custodes force only because Watchers of the Throne has them deploy alongside 2,000 Custodes in the defense of the palace during the events of Khorne's invasion/diversion on Terra.

Also, if you haven't read it and want to play Custodes, or just like Custodes, go read the book. It's a good read balancing the views of a Custodian, the Chancellor of the High Lords of Terra and a Sister of Silence (who despite not talking has a very bad potty mouth :x).

Basically the whole book is good, dips into the events around the end of the Gathering Storm and gives us some insight into Terra (to include a peek at what the Golden Throne looks like).

ERJAK wrote:
Screw fluff if it means I don't have to pay 800 billion dollars to buy a tank from england, wait 18 months for it ship, and then have it melt into a puddle on the way to the FLGS, just to have a second transport option for the custodes.

The hyperbole is strong with this one...

Spartacus wrote:
Venerable Stormraven anyone?

I have two which are just itching for that gold paintjob. Would be an easy way to mix in some real dakka as well. I still think they're a decent take after the points hike.

Urggh its bad enough the Marines use them - plastic Storm Eagle please,.

 Dysartes wrote:

ERJAK wrote:
Screw fluff if it means I don't have to pay 800 billion dollars to buy a tank from england, wait 18 months for it ship, and then have it melt into a puddle on the way to the FLGS, just to have a second transport option for the custodes.

The hyperbole is strong with this one...

I can kind of understand it if you live in Aussie land since I've heard it gets hot as hell there in the summer and the UK likes to tax them like they're still convicts being punished....

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Side note: I'll step back my dislike of the Land Raider in a Custodes force only because Watchers of the Throne has them deploy alongside 2,000 Custodes in the defense of the palace during the events of Khorne's invasion/diversion on Terra.

Also, if you haven't read it and want to play Custodes, or just like Custodes, go read the book. It's a good read balancing the views of a Custodian, the Chancellor of the High Lords of Terra and a Sister of Silence (who despite not talking has a very bad potty mouth :x).

Basically the whole book is good, dips into the events around the end of the Gathering Storm and gives us some insight into Terra (to include a peek at what the Golden Throne looks like).

Just got my copy on the mail today! Can't wait.

 Cephalobeard wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Side note: I'll step back my dislike of the Land Raider in a Custodes force only because Watchers of the Throne has them deploy alongside 2,000 Custodes in the defense of the palace during the events of Khorne's invasion/diversion on Terra.

Also, if you haven't read it and want to play Custodes, or just like Custodes, go read the book. It's a good read balancing the views of a Custodian, the Chancellor of the High Lords of Terra and a Sister of Silence (who despite not talking has a very bad potty mouth :x).

Basically the whole book is good, dips into the events around the end of the Gathering Storm and gives us some insight into Terra (to include a peek at what the Golden Throne looks like).

Just got my copy on the mail today! Can't wait.

I don't want to spoil anything but I definitely will say I enjoyed the read. The look into the modern Custodes, the little details sprinkled about, the mentioning of Guilliman standing on the Lion's Gate, the way the Sisters of Silence see the Daemons differently than normal humans do (in fact, they may see reality itself differently)....

It's been a while since I've gushed over a book like this and I'm happy to finally get the chance to do so again.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Side note: I'll step back my dislike of the Land Raider in a Custodes force only because Watchers of the Throne has them deploy alongside 2,000 Custodes in the defense of the palace during the events of Khorne's invasion/diversion on Terra.

There was a Custodes Land Raider in Horus Heresy: Collected Visions about a decade ago, so they're nothing new.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Side note: I'll step back my dislike of the Land Raider in a Custodes force only because Watchers of the Throne has them deploy alongside 2,000 Custodes in the defense of the palace during the events of Khorne's invasion/diversion on Terra.

There was a Custodes Land Raider in Horus Heresy: Collected Visions about a decade ago, so they're nothing new.

Hm. I don't remember if I have a copy or not honestly. Most of my books are in stasis right now.

That said, it's one of those things that I guess I was just put off that the Imperium faction known for grav tech didn't get models for grav tech before the Primaris Marines did.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Side note: I'll step back my dislike of the Land Raider in a Custodes force only because Watchers of the Throne has them deploy alongside 2,000 Custodes in the defense of the palace during the events of Khorne's invasion/diversion on Terra.

Also, if you haven't read it and want to play Custodes, or just like Custodes, go read the book. It's a good read balancing the views of a Custodian, the Chancellor of the High Lords of Terra and a Sister of Silence (who despite not talking has a very bad potty mouth :x).

Basically the whole book is good, dips into the events around the end of the Gathering Storm and gives us some insight into Terra (to include a peek at what the Golden Throne looks like).

Just got my copy on the mail today! Can't wait.

I don't want to spoil anything but I definitely will say I enjoyed the read. The look into the modern Custodes, the little details sprinkled about, the mentioning of Guilliman standing on the Lion's Gate, the way the Sisters of Silence see the Daemons differently than normal humans do (in fact, they may see reality itself differently)....

It's been a while since I've gushed over a book like this and I'm happy to finally get the chance to do so again.

Hmm this does sound awesome -

Spartacus wrote:
Venerable Stormraven anyone?

I have two which are just itching for that gold paintjob. Would be an easy way to mix in some real dakka as well. I still think they're a decent take after the points hike.

could also explain where the stormraven first came from. Also me and my local GW manager where speculating that the custodes will get access to the other LR varients to pad the line out a bit

BrianDavion wrote:

Spartacus wrote:
Venerable Stormraven anyone?

I have two which are just itching for that gold paintjob. Would be an easy way to mix in some real dakka as well. I still think they're a decent take after the points hike.

could also explain where the stormraven first came from. Also me and my local GW manager where speculating that the custodes will get access to the other LR varients to pad the line out a bit

Crusaders would likely end up being the go-to then since it'd let us fit more bodies in the vehicle with decent anti-horde shooting added on.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Spartacus wrote:
Venerable Stormraven anyone?

I have two which are just itching for that gold paintjob. Would be an easy way to mix in some real dakka as well. I still think they're a decent take after the points hike.

could also explain where the stormraven first came from. Also me and my local GW manager where speculating that the custodes will get access to the other LR varients to pad the line out a bit

Crusaders would likely end up being the go-to then since it'd let us fit more bodies in the vehicle with decent anti-horde shooting added on.

it'll also depend on what other options ACs have. if GW loads them up with anti hoarde options but they have few tank killing, then god hammer land raiders may be prefdered.

BrianDavion wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Spartacus wrote:
Venerable Stormraven anyone?

I have two which are just itching for that gold paintjob. Would be an easy way to mix in some real dakka as well. I still think they're a decent take after the points hike.

could also explain where the stormraven first came from. Also me and my local GW manager where speculating that the custodes will get access to the other LR varients to pad the line out a bit

Crusaders would likely end up being the go-to then since it'd let us fit more bodies in the vehicle with decent anti-horde shooting added on.

it'll also depend on what other options ACs have. if GW loads them up with anti hoarde options but they have few tank killing, then god hammer land raiders may be prefdered.

If we get all the FW options then the Custodes won't exactly be lacking tank killing options. So it really comes down to how much FW gives the army.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Spartacus wrote:
Venerable Stormraven anyone?

I have two which are just itching for that gold paintjob. Would be an easy way to mix in some real dakka as well. I still think they're a decent take after the points hike.

could also explain where the stormraven first came from. Also me and my local GW manager where speculating that the custodes will get access to the other LR varients to pad the line out a bit

Crusaders would likely end up being the go-to then since it'd let us fit more bodies in the vehicle with decent anti-horde shooting added on.

it'll also depend on what other options ACs have. if GW loads them up with anti hoarde options but they have few tank killing, then god hammer land raiders may be prefdered.

If we get all the FW options then the Custodes won't exactly be lacking tank killing options. So it really comes down to how much FW gives the army.

true for those WITH FW custodes stuff. although I'm eyeing one of those custodes dreads myself