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Mandragola wrote:
I don't really think the FW stuff is any less plain than GW's LRs. If anything, FW vehicles tend to be a bit less elaborate and a bit more gritty and realistic than GW ones.

If you're near warhammer world, you could pick up their fancy special character one. It comes with a rhino Primaris and it's £75 for the two, which isn't actually bad.

They both have all kinds of fancy details on, which could make them suitable for a Custodes LR.

I'm not sure it's actually worth bringing one still, but there are options on how to get hold of one. Ebay is another.

Ni hao my brotha.

I was more meaning the Proteus or Armoured Proteus.

Any word on the Spear cost for the Jetbikes?

Do you think it will be possible to make a 500pt matched play force with just Custodes?

Low model count makes them very attractive to me, even though they look like stormcast with guns.

Also, will there be different paint schemes? I was thinking a ceramic white design?

ritualnet wrote:


Also, will there be different paint schemes? I was thinking a ceramic white design?

Yes, actually. A while ago they showed a white custodes.

ritualnet wrote:
Do you think it will be possible to make a 500pt matched play force with just Custodes?

Low model count makes them very attractive to me, even though they look like stormcast with guns.

Also, will there be different paint schemes? I was thinking a ceramic white design?

There will be other paint schemes in Codex, though you can paint any color you want anyway.

You could make a Patrol detachment with 500 absolutely!

White will be hoping I'm doing my Custodes.

They showed a good number of schemes on the stream yesterday, but most of it was just different colored cloth. The armor, canonically, was either white, gold or black in almost all instances iirc.

Audustum wrote:

ritualnet wrote:
Do you think it will be possible to make a 500pt matched play force with just Custodes?

Low model count makes them very attractive to me, even though they look like stormcast with guns.

Also, will there be different paint schemes? I was thinking a ceramic white design?

There will be other paint schemes in Codex, though you can paint any color you want anyway.

You could make a Patrol detachment with 500 absolutely!

Yeah, they said they will have small minimum squad sizes (3 instead of the usual 5), so 500 points should be doable

Hmm, what size of Volkite weapon would make the best Adrathic Devastators to put onto a plastic jetbike? I'm thinking the culverins at a glance.

If Custodes stay around 50 point a model anyone else thinking just take like 30 Custodes plus a few HQs and just say to your opponent "deal with that." Solid saves, stats, offense, defense, and deepstrike seems pretty scary.

Wulfey wrote:
Vanguard Imperium Bruiser detachment

Primaris Psyker (for +1 save or -1 to be hit)
Priest
6x brute shield + maul bullgryn
5++ Vexilum custode

This is exactly what I was thinking actually.. 6 bullgryns with slab shields and power mauls is about 250 pts. Add in the pysker, priest, and Praetor with Vexilla, and I'm guessing this will total just under 500 pts. In a standard 2k army, that's only a quarter of the army, leaving lots of room for other stuff/detachments. You're talking models with base stats very similar to custodes in melee, for a much lower cost, and with a 2+ invul save instead of a 3+. Honestly, it might even be worth running a full 10 man squad of bullgryns like this and literally just moving them up the center of the board for complete denial of it.

It's not the fastest death star unit, and maybe not the best there has ever been, but it is definitely a death star unit and the premise worries me.

People are already whiny about IG infantry because they're scarred from conscripts, imagine how annoying it's going to be when you're opponent shoves as many IG infantry or vet squads as they can within 9" of the vexilla. You thought 5+ armor 4ppm was durable? Try 5+ invuls, with potential of buffs from psykers.

On a lighter note.. my buddy and I decided I should paint a squad of these bullgryns gold like the custodes, and switch out the slab shield bits for those custodes tower shield bits for EXTRA heresy, to make "Custodgryns". The thought of barely tolerable abhumans working alongside custodes is just hilarious.

 buddha wrote:
If Custodes stay around 50 point a model anyone else thinking just take like 30 Custodes plus a few HQs and just say to your opponent "deal with that." Solid saves, stats, offense, defense, and deepstrike seems pretty scary.

Actually....yes. I was thinking the same thing. You might have room to throw in a dreadnought too.

Something else I was thinking. What I'd like to call the "Custodes bomb". 10 Terminators, Terminator with Vexillia, and one unit of 10 Guardians all deepstriking together, then split up the terminators. You'd have one blob squad and 11 single model units in the enemy's backfield.

 Cephalobeard wrote:

They showed a good number of schemes on the stream yesterday, but most of it was just different colored cloth. The armor, canonically, was either white, gold or black in almost all instances iirc.

They showed them? Why no one took screenshots?

 cuda1179 wrote:

 buddha wrote:
If Custodes stay around 50 point a model anyone else thinking just take like 30 Custodes plus a few HQs and just say to your opponent "deal with that." Solid saves, stats, offense, defense, and deepstrike seems pretty scary.

Actually....yes. I was thinking the same thing. You might have room to throw in a dreadnought too.

Something else I was thinking. What I'd like to call the "Custodes bomb". 10 Terminators, Terminator with Vexillia, and one unit of 10 Guardians all deepstriking together, then split up the terminators. You'd have one blob squad and 11 single model units in the enemy's backfield.

Yeah I think I'd recommend a similar approach. Maybe start out with 4x5 Custodian guard with spears and two Vexilas giving the enemy -1 to hit them all.

A big squad of terminators to deep strike in might work well. You could try and have a vexilla race forward so you could bring them into combat straight away when they appeared.

Or, you could just take more Custodian Guard. That might well be the best plan.

I'll be interested to see how the characters compare to the normal guys. Normal guys are so expensive, and so good, that characters might not be much more expensive or better. If a standard jetbiker costs 80 points and a captain on a jetbike costs <150, it might make more sense to build all jetbikes as captains.

Part 5 - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/19/adeptus-custodes-preview-part-4-stratagemsgw-homepage-post-2/

Oh, and that fluff bit about retired Custodes becoming Custodes spies was pretty questionable. I'm sure that eight feet tall guy in black robes is not suspicious at all...

Custard Ogryns?

 Crimson wrote:
Oh, and that fluff bit about retired Custodes becoming Custodes spies was pretty questionable. I'm sure that eight feet tall guy in black robes is not suspicious at all...

Yeah, that is a bit of a plot hole.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Audustum wrote:

ritualnet wrote:
Do you think it will be possible to make a 500pt matched play force with just Custodes?

Low model count makes them very attractive to me, even though they look like stormcast with guns.

Also, will there be different paint schemes? I was thinking a ceramic white design?

There will be other paint schemes in Codex, though you can paint any color you want anyway.

You could make a Patrol detachment with 500 absolutely!

Yeah, they said they will have small minimum squad sizes (3 instead of the usual 5), so 500 points should be doable

I'm not a fan of marines (although the fluff behind some of the chapters is great), but this might get me into some games, while I get my genestealer cults up and operational. Didn't someone say one box of custard guards can make a patrol detachment?

In 30k their are 'Falsehoods' that enable a wearer to hid e his appearance. Maybe they do this?
Or only go to/work in areas where it can be explained? Giant servitors for example

ritualnet wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Audustum wrote:

ritualnet wrote:
Do you think it will be possible to make a 500pt matched play force with just Custodes?

Low model count makes them very attractive to me, even though they look like stormcast with guns.

Also, will there be different paint schemes? I was thinking a ceramic white design?

There will be other paint schemes in Codex, though you can paint any color you want anyway.

You could make a Patrol detachment with 500 absolutely!

Yeah, they said they will have small minimum squad sizes (3 instead of the usual 5), so 500 points should be doable

I'm not a fan of marines (although the fluff behind some of the chapters is great), but this might get me into some games, while I get my genestealer cults up and operational. Didn't someone say one box of custard guards can make a patrol detachment?

It can - 5 models in the box:

1 Shield-Captain (HQ)
1 Vexillus Praetor (EL)
3 Custodian Guard (TR)

 Asmodai wrote:

ritualnet wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Audustum wrote:

ritualnet wrote:
Do you think it will be possible to make a 500pt matched play force with just Custodes?

Low model count makes them very attractive to me, even though they look like stormcast with guns.

Also, will there be different paint schemes? I was thinking a ceramic white design?

There will be other paint schemes in Codex, though you can paint any color you want anyway.

You could make a Patrol detachment with 500 absolutely!

Yeah, they said they will have small minimum squad sizes (3 instead of the usual 5), so 500 points should be doable

I'm not a fan of marines (although the fluff behind some of the chapters is great), but this might get me into some games, while I get my genestealer cults up and operational. Didn't someone say one box of custard guards can make a patrol detachment?

It can - 5 models in the box:

1 Shield-Captain (HQ)
1 Vexillus Praetor (EL)
3 Custodian Guard (TR)

This could be the cheapest force I've ever bought! (Genestealer Cults was the battleforce and overkill for example).

Are these five models the same ones from the Prospero box?

ritualnet wrote:

Are these five models the same ones from the Prospero box?

Yes.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Oh, and that fluff bit about retired Custodes becoming Custodes spies was pretty questionable. I'm sure that eight feet tall guy in black robes is not suspicious at all...

Yeah, that is a bit of a plot hole.

This is the same nonsense that happens whenever talking about Alpha Legion or the Fallen.
You don't necessarily have to blend in to be a spy or part of a spy network.

From further up the thread...

 ImAGeek wrote:
From Wildweasel on Bolter and Chainsword:
LORE SHOW NOTES!

Do not die of old age, but do eventually slow some with age (after centuries or millennia). Once they do, they retire from active military duty, turning their wargear over to their order, and go forth into the Imperium in secret, running the Custodes spy networks.

So according to this, they would be the equivalent of M and not 007.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Oh, and that fluff bit about retired Custodes becoming Custodes spies was pretty questionable. I'm sure that eight feet tall guy in black robes is not suspicious at all...

Yeah, that is a bit of a plot hole.

This is the same nonsense that happens whenever talking about Alpha Legion or the Fallen.
You don't necessarily have to blend in to be a spy or part of a spy network.

Indeed. Running a network, and being Austin are two very different things.

 Crimson wrote:
Oh, and that fluff bit about retired Custodes becoming Custodes spies was pretty questionable. I'm sure that eight feet tall guy in black robes is not suspicious at all...

I doubt the retired custodes is the one actually doing the act of spying... you know. I assume is something like Genestealer Cults, with the "Custodes" being the Patriarch. But more loyalist of course.

EDIT: Others have said the same thing.

 Crimson wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:

They showed a good number of schemes on the stream yesterday, but most of it was just different colored cloth. The armor, canonically, was either white, gold or black in almost all instances iirc.

They showed them? Why no one took screenshots?

Here you go.

 nordsturmking wrote:

Here you go.

Spoiler:

Thank you!

The Shadowkeepers are easily my favourite.

New preview is up. Stratagems. Tanglefoot grenade seems like it will be useful, since custodes lack an effective screen from T1 charges.