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p5freak,

Does it show that I haven't played in a while haha!

Blood Angel player going 5 - 0

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2019/07/02/pure-blood-angels-go-5-0-at-the-boise-cup-major/

Almost pure Blood Angels. Sadly he has brought an assassin but apart from that.

Awesome effort Sanguinius would be proud

It's really impressive, I agree. I've played lists VERY similar to that. I'm not sure how he beat the demons.

Looks like I’ll begoing up against Death Guard tomorrow. 1500pts. And recommendations on list tweeks?

Use a list you are practiced with.

And dont go head to head. You wont win that.

Looks like I’ll begoing up against Death Guard tomorrow. 1500pts. And recommendations on list tweeks?

Against Death Guard I suggest picking the thing in his army which is the biggest threat to yours and over kill that. Don't get greedy otherwise with some lucky rolls on your opponents behalf and you end up doing nothing.

One thing at a time

If he has morty, you must shoot him.

Yup, Death Guard are always tougher than you expect so don't be tempted to dilute your firepower/melee.

Last time I faced DG, I ran a full 10-man squad of Sanguinary Guard backed up by Ancient with SoS, Sanguinor, JP Libby and JP Sanguinary Priest (Index option).

It was spectacular. Between the 2+/5+++ and healing of the SP, 2 of them actually survived to the end of the game. The Deathball and characters carved through 2 squads of DG, assorted HQs and 5 Daemon engines.

You don't have to be quite so eggs-in-one basket but you do need commit.

Well I was able to pull off a victory. We played the Doomsday Device scenario from Vigilus. I was the defender. He called it end of turn 3 as he had not done any damage to the device and I had most of his heavy stuff in a losing(?) CC. Board control wise I say we were neck and neck with maybe a slight lead for him.

Are there any gotcha Blood Angels Stratagems? (Stratagems that may or may not be powerful in general but can catch people off guard)

What are the most powerful Blood Angels Stratagems?

Forlorn fury, descent of angels, honor the chapter, red rampage, only in death does duty end.

 p5freak wrote:
Forlorn fury, descent of angels, honor the chapter, red rampage, only in death does duty end.

Above and the death visions of Sanguinius.

Upon wings of fire.

UWOF is 2cp now, which sounds fair for a 15 DC model unit, or a smash captn, but not for a single JP infantry model.

Or a huge squad of inceptors.

What's our best options for fast attack? Assault troops obviously fit with our theme very well, but so we really need more jump pack assault troops? Maybe if you're bringing a heavy DC/Furiosa dread list, assault squads would be good? Otherwise bike squads seem like they'd also fit with our army OK since they're mobile, and that's one of our strengths to play to.

Suppressors. Or bikes.

Inceptors are also quite awesome.

Inceptors are still too expensive for their incredible fragility. They are only viable for DW, I think, who can hide them.

 Gangland wrote:
Hey all, new to Blood Angels. What is a good 1000-1500 list I can make with what I have? Currently I have the following:

2 Smash Captains
Sang priest plastic with jp
3 Furioso deadnaughts
15 Assault sqaud
20+ Tac sqaud
20 death company
9 sang guard
dante
mephiston
lemartes
chaplain w/Jump pack
3 Scout Bikers
15 sniper scouts

Any help would be appreciated and i would be going up against Death Guard, Eldar, Dark Angels, or Tau. I do have 2 chaos rhinos and 2 chaos land raiders my opponents wouldn’t mind me fielding as BA.

Hey all so I have added the following to my built list above, still stuff on sprue but all in due time. So who wants to help me bump up to 2k points?

10 scouts with boltguns
5 scouts with snipers
6 assult marines with jump packs
6 primaris inceptors with the assualt guns
15 marines with boltguns
1 chaplain with jumppack
1 smash cpt
1 custom apothercry
1 libiran with jump pack
The Shadowspear set Primaris half
1 Smash cpt with jump pack

Scout bikers are very good value for its points. For 71 points you get 12 bolter shots at 24". Plus 6 shotgun shots (like a bolter) at 12". At 6" the shotguns are S5. Charge for 7 melee attacks with +1 to wound, next turn fallback and play the mine stratagem for 1CP which does D3 MW on the enemy unit. They move 16", or 22" when advancing, and have T5 W2 for every model.

Seems like you should go all infantry

You need some anti armor long range weapons. Like PC, ML, LC.

 p5freak wrote:
You need some anti armor long range weapons. Like PC, ML, LC.

Yeah I usually take those on a tactical squad. My 1500pt list went with a ML which worked well as you get a bit anti infantry and armor.

I've got several lists with zero long range. They work as well as anyn other ba list. Don't feel like you have to take poor units just to get range.

 Gangland wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
You need some anti armor long range weapons. Like PC, ML, LC.

Yeah I usually take those on a tactical squad. My 1500pt list went with a ML which worked well as you get a bit anti infantry and armor.

Thats not really a good idea. A dev squad with one anti armor gun costs the same as a tac squad with one anti armor gun, but the dev squad sarge can give one model +1 to hit.

 p5freak wrote:

 Gangland wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
You need some anti armor long range weapons. Like PC, ML, LC.

Yeah I usually take those on a tactical squad. My 1500pt list went with a ML which worked well as you get a bit anti infantry and armor.

Thats not really a good idea. A dev squad with one anti armor gun costs the same as a tac squad with one anti armor gun, but the dev squad sarge can give one model +1 to hit.

But I don’t have a dev squad so... yeah.

It’s the same models.

That is good to know. Though I was also using the tac squad as troop tax, but I shouldn't need to now.

I agree with the above. Inceptors provide great dakka for their points and Scouts bikes are cheap and flexible mobile harassment.

I haven't tried Suppressors yet but they look good on paper. Autocannons are in a pretty good place at the moment as they have good S and RoF and are not unduly bothered by invulnerable saves. The ability to shut down overwatch on targets can be very nice for when our fighty units are about to get stuck in.