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2018/06/07 18:15:10
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Yeah if he had just seen that pane of glass, so sad.
Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis
2018/06/07 18:32:20
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
gorgon wrote: I'm not sure why they'd do resin versions as well...?
Hopefully less overblinged models so those who like quality rather than bling for bling's sake can get one.
They're daemon primarchs, not tactical marines.
So? Overblinged model is still overblinged. With that big model it just gives them even more room for overbling. GW has this obsession that more bling=better model when it's actually reverse
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2018/06/07 19:33:16
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Yes, it has to be re-written to fit into 8th story and rules. It isn't being worked on at all right now. This is coming from the writer.
Jesus on a pogo stick, they've had an year to rewrite it! Considering how gak FW rules quality generally, is, it really cannot take that long to do it.
They literally haven't even been working on it. I would expect to see it late 2019 at the earliest. 2018 is a complete no-go for Cyraxus now.
And they have said they have planned at least one or two new books (for custodes and sisters of silence?) to come out first, so really, 2020-2022 could be a more reasonable estimate.
At that point ironically it might not even be 8th edition any more.
So yeah, want to use your Mechanicum models? Best start proxying them as Adeptus Mechanicus (who are not strong by the way, so really you should just sell if you are holding Mechanicum and wanting to play it in 40k)
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2018/06/07 20:21:09
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Yes, it has to be re-written to fit into 8th story and rules. It isn't being worked on at all right now. This is coming from the writer.
Jesus on a pogo stick, they've had an year to rewrite it! Considering how gak FW rules quality generally, is, it really cannot take that long to do it.
So the writer was on the stream. He said they had it done for 7th edition, and then 8th dropped. The writer is also the manager of the Specialist Games section, so... given that FW is insanely understaffed, FoC is just a pipe dream at this point in time.
They don't have the staff to do half of the work they want to. That was the main thrust of the entire stream.
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2018/06/07 20:29:10
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Yes, it has to be re-written to fit into 8th story and rules. It isn't being worked on at all right now. This is coming from the writer.
Jesus on a pogo stick, they've had an year to rewrite it! Considering how gak FW rules quality generally, is, it really cannot take that long to do it.
So the writer was on the stream. He said they had it done for 7th edition, and then 8th dropped. The writer is also the manager of the Specialist Games section, so... given that FW is insanely understaffed, FoC is just a pipe dream at this point in time.
They don't have the staff to do half of the work they want to. That was the main thrust of the entire stream.
They keep making that excuse, but they also keep claiming they're hiring on new staff - these guys are evidently gaking gold bars at the moment as far as GW's bottom line is concerned, how the hell do they *still* not have the resources they need to make the most of their successes?
I'm starting to think those vague rumours about some of the main studio bigwigs being unhappy at FW/SGs success and autonomy and engaging in office politicking to curb them are more plausible than we initially assumed.
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2018/06/07 20:48:57
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Yes, it has to be re-written to fit into 8th story and rules. It isn't being worked on at all right now. This is coming from the writer.
Jesus on a pogo stick, they've had an year to rewrite it! Considering how gak FW rules quality generally, is, it really cannot take that long to do it.
So the writer was on the stream. He said they had it done for 7th edition, and then 8th dropped. The writer is also the manager of the Specialist Games section, so... given that FW is insanely understaffed, FoC is just a pipe dream at this point in time.
They don't have the staff to do half of the work they want to. That was the main thrust of the entire stream.
They keep making that excuse, but they also keep claiming they're hiring on new staff - these guys are evidently gaking gold bars at the moment as far as GW's bottom line is concerned, how the hell do they *still* not have the resources they need to make the most of their successes?
I'm starting to think those vague rumours about some of the main studio bigwigs being unhappy at FW/SGs success and autonomy and engaging in office politicking to curb them are more plausible than we initially assumed.
At the same time they're hiring new staff, they're now also doing Lord of the Rings, Adeptus Titanicus, Blood Bowl and Necromunda - the workload seems to be growing as fast as they're hiring staff. Still, it's traditional - the rules for Emperor titans were promised not long after Adeptus Titanicus was released in 1998. They finally appeared as Titan Legions, six years and an edition later. Still waiting for the rules for psy-titans promised at the same time. Now that both Codex Tau and Codex Adeptus Mechanicus are out, somone might decide that they can fit the conflict into the new Imperium Nihilus story.
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2018/06/07 21:32:55
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Well, on the plus side, retooling the background for 8th as well means I can stop waiting for it, because the background for 8th is guff and I rarely play full-blown 40K these days.
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2018/06/07 21:37:19
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
I don't get why they don't just put the admech rules in with the upcoming custodes book, as they look like they were left out of the imperium imperial armour index due to imminent release.
In honesty I'd love to buy some fw admech but I don't play 30k and until I know the book is coming and which units have rules, they won't get money from me.
2018/06/07 21:51:02
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
changemod wrote: I don’t think there’s a single person on the planet who wants Cyraxus for it’s lore.
Speak for yourself.
The primary purpose of the book is to get the 30k mechanicus stuff into 40k: If the lore is delaying that even further, then it’s just in the way.
Yes yes, very clever you would like to read that lore, but I’m pretty sure you knew exactly what I meant. The customers who are hurting from this aren’t the ones who’d like to read an admech vs tau story, they’re the ones who’ve been waiting bordering on three years on the promise of rules content.
2018/06/07 21:52:31
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
changemod wrote: I don’t think there’s a single person on the planet who wants Cyraxus for it’s lore.
Speak for yourself.
Exactly. I bought all the Imperial Armour books for the "lore". I did end up using the Elysian rules, but that was after I'd bought the book, looked at the pictures and read the background.
2018/06/07 22:02:24
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
changemod wrote: The primary purpose of the book is to get the 30k mechanicus stuff into 40k: If the lore is delaying that even further, then it’s just in the way.
Yes yes, very clever you would like to read that lore, but I’m pretty sure you knew exactly what I meant. The customers who are hurting from this aren’t the ones who’d like to read an admech vs tau story, they’re the ones who’ve been waiting bordering on three years on the promise of rules content.
Clever? Hardly. The primary purpose of the book is to provide a complete campaign, backstory and army list package as all Forgeworld Imperial Armour books have been, barring the 8th indexes. I like that package. It's a ball ache that I have to wait for it, but there we are.
2018/06/07 22:12:47
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Honestly though, the "rewrite the whole thing to fit it with 8th Ed lore" sounds like a cop out. There's plenty of previous FW campaigns that were historical, why should Fires suddenly be so special it HAS to take place contemporarily. Give us the stuff that was already written, place it just before the Galaxy gets a new space hole, now all you needed to do was rework the rules section.
I want to play through the damned campaign and the longer it takes to release, the more that desire diminishes.
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2018/06/07 22:31:32
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Yes, it has to be re-written to fit into 8th story and rules. It isn't being worked on at all right now. This is coming from the writer.
Jesus on a pogo stick, they've had an year to rewrite it! Considering how gak FW rules quality generally, is, it really cannot take that long to do it.
So the writer was on the stream. He said they had it done for 7th edition, and then 8th dropped. The writer is also the manager of the Specialist Games section, so... given that FW is insanely understaffed, FoC is just a pipe dream at this point in time.
They don't have the staff to do half of the work they want to. That was the main thrust of the entire stream.
That’s nearly verbatim for what I confirmed earlier in the thread, glad it’s been officially confirmed so people know I wasn’t talking crap
2018/06/07 22:35:54
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
*Heresy is not dead and most certainly stay 7th, because they think that it's more balanced for Heresy, and having many different gaming systems is a great thing.
2018/06/07 22:37:51
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
changemod wrote: The primary purpose of the book is to get the 30k mechanicus stuff into 40k: If the lore is delaying that even further, then it’s just in the way.
Yes yes, very clever you would like to read that lore, but I’m pretty sure you knew exactly what I meant. The customers who are hurting from this aren’t the ones who’d like to read an admech vs tau story, they’re the ones who’ve been waiting bordering on three years on the promise of rules content.
Clever? Hardly. The primary purpose of the book is to provide a complete campaign, backstory and army list package as all Forgeworld Imperial Armour books have been, barring the 8th indexes. I like that package. It's a ball ache that I have to wait for it, but there we are.
There's a definitely a group of people who like historical type campaign books filled with background, maps, army/squad insignia. I would venture that there are more people who want to have rules for their existing models or want to buy models and use them in games. I think it would behoove FW financially to cater to that second group and release at least an index of mechanicum units for 40k use.
2018/06/07 22:45:56
Subject: Forgeworld 2018 News & Rumors : Alpha legion and Last chance dreadnought stuff
Well, on a more important note for me, they finally got back to me on the more serious issue of 'Where in the gold plated hell of the Emperor's underware drawer are my ordered miniatures?'
Seems that "The demand for those products was a lot larger then we first expected, for this reason our staff in the warehouse is working as efficient as possible to fulfill all orders in time and I must apologize for the caused inconvenience and delay. "
Mind you, 'In Time' passed today with no sign of my order being shipped inside of 35 working days.
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