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I'm not saying I would sculpt that, what I'm saying is that it doesn't really look upto scratch with the regular quality of forge world models in terms of detail. It seems a little lacklustre. I mean, the only thing that marks it as bloodbowl is the slightly less armour more football pad shoulder plates. Seems like a bit of a lazy effort. Other than that it's just a normal nurgle slug. It just doesn't look like it belongs in bloodbowl. How's that thing supposed to be effective on a football field?

Wow, another hard pass from FW. This is my surprised face.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I'm not saying I would sculpt that, what I'm saying is that it doesn't really look upto scratch with the regular quality of forge world models in terms of detail. It seems a little lacklustre.

Oh, got it. Yeah, I feel like FW has actually slipped a lot in the last few years, and it's just less noticeable on more geometric/embellished kits. I think they've been pretty inconsistent, with a few solid kits and a lot of misses or at least unremarkable ones, which has become more notable recently with the combination of GW proper's better quality and FW's lazy painting.

Another week, another release that is not the new Dreadnought Drop Pod or Malevolence book. It's making me sad.. the model is fun though, and a great paintjob unlike the other recent models from FW lately.

Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

 alleus wrote:
Another week, another release that is not the new Dreadnought Drop Pod or Malevolence book. It's making me sad.. the model is fun though, and a great paintjob unlike the other recent models from FW lately.

LOL. When was the atomantic pavaise first previewed? Two years ago?

These things will arrive when they arrive. Or not.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

That's like parking a Lamborghini next to a Ford Mondeo and complaining the Mondeo is trash.
For the sheer price difference and the fact that primarchs are part of the character series I hope they are better than a cheap model.

And to be fair, some of the primarch models put most thing to shame aswell.

Not really, it's about what forge world is capable of. I know it's only 1/4 the price of the later primarchs, but it looks more like something from a GW set to me.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Not really, it's about what forge world is capable of. I know it's only 1/4 the price of the later primarchs, but it looks more like something from a GW set to me.

Games Workshop are getting closer and closer to what Forge World put out, for the most part. Surpassing them, in some areas, lately.

 gorgon wrote:

 alleus wrote:
Another week, another release that is not the new Dreadnought Drop Pod or Malevolence book. It's making me sad.. the model is fun though, and a great paintjob unlike the other recent models from FW lately.

LOL. When was the atomantic pavaise first previewed? Two years ago?

These things will arrive when they arrive. Or not.

When was Bran Redmaw teased again*?



*Yes, I know there was some issue with the master...

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

I dunno about that, 40K Roboute is FAR superior in sculpt than that weak baby-faced one from HH.

No.

 Togusa wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

I dunno about that, 40K Roboute is FAR superior in sculpt than that weak baby-faced one from HH.

what have you been smoking?! ...Absolutely not. The 40k Guilliman looks terrible. Big barrel chest, tiny head, tiny chicken quads and massive flared calves.. Its like they used an opposite machine on all his proportions. And that flaming sword? Lame.


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Now the daemon primarchs on the other hand.. They are amazing models. I hope they make a daemon Angron to the same standard as Magnus.

I keep saying this but the reason Robot Guilleman looks so weird is because Cawl went all Robocop on him; that’s also why Yvraine told him to never try to take his armour off – it’s armour all the way down.

The real question, of course, is what did Cawl do with the rest of Bobby’s corpse…

It's not even just the proportions though. The FW model is Guilliman - the pose, the facial expression, the armour detailing, even the often-maligned scenic base, it all contributes to a sense of regal, commanding reserve that perfectly fits his character.

40K Rowboat is just Big Action Dude Posing Onna Rock #72617, with ludicrous over-detailing and a face like he's trying to take a really troublesome gak. And also, yeah, the awful proportions.

The vast majority of the time model preference is a matter of opinion, but the 40K Rowboat is objectively a worse representation of the character than the FW Heresy model.

 Yodhrin wrote:
It's not even just the proportions though. The FW model is Guilliman - the pose, the facial expression, the armour detailing, even the often-maligned scenic base, it all contributes to a sense of regal, commanding reserve that perfectly fits his character.

40K Rowboat is just Big Action Dude Posing Onna Rock #72617, with ludicrous over-detailing and a face like he's trying to take a really troublesome gak. And also, yeah, the awful proportions.

The vast majority of the time model preference is a matter of opinion, but the 40K Rowboat is objectively a worse representation of the character than the FW Heresy model.

They're both kinda bad. Neither looks like a 40K model. They look like 55mm scale models that someone accidentally put on the 40K table. One just tries to be realistic whilst another is cartoony, neither of them belong. After seeing the new Abaddon I am more sure about this than ever. It is a better version of a 'primarch-scale' model than any Primarchs either the main studio or FW has produced.

 Yodhrin wrote:
It's not even just the proportions though. The FW model is Guilliman - the pose, the facial expression, the armour detailing, even the often-maligned scenic base, it all contributes to a sense of regal, commanding reserve that perfectly fits his character.

40K Rowboat is just Big Action Dude Posing Onna Rock #72617, with ludicrous over-detailing and a face like he's trying to take a really troublesome gak. And also, yeah, the awful proportions.

The vast majority of the time model preference is a matter of opinion, but the 40K Rowboat is objectively a worse representation of the character than the FW Heresy model.

I agree. I mean this in no disrepect to those who like the model but I can't really describe it in any other way.... the GW plastic version looks to me what a primarch would look like if sculpted specifically for a 7 year old. It's malproportioned even by 40k standards and is overly gaudy without style as if trying to overcompensate for something. It's the tabletop equivalent visually of the Playskool Galactic Heroes if they had extra bling for no reason compared with more adult black series of figs for the Forgeworld equivalent. Obviously YMMV. The new Abaddon model though is an example of how GW should have done the primarch so at least they seem to be improving somewhat recently.

I could see why people like the FW Guilliman but just try to imagine a reasonably proportioned human body inside of that powered armor. My dude has a Olson Twin body with a watermelon head.

The GW Guilliman has the same issue however.

*shrugs*

I like both Gilly models.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

I dunno about that, 40K Roboute is FAR superior in sculpt than that weak baby-faced one from HH.

what have you been smoking?! ...Absolutely not. The 40k Guilliman looks terrible. Big barrel chest, tiny head, tiny chicken quads and massive flared calves.. Its like they used an opposite machine on all his proportions. And that flaming sword? Lame.


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Now the daemon primarchs on the other hand.. They are amazing models. I hope they make a daemon Angron to the same standard as Magnus.

Don't know what to tell ya, I have both and I think the 40K model is light-years better than the 30K one.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
*shrugs*

I like both Gilly models.

No issues there despite my misgivings regarding the model. Contrary to popular belief, people are allowed to have different opinions on the internet. Now... this Ultramarine is much more to my liking!

I don't like Primaris Marines and even I like that Lt.

 Togusa wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

I dunno about that, 40K Roboute is FAR superior in sculpt than that weak baby-faced one from HH.

what have you been smoking?! ...Absolutely not. The 40k Guilliman looks terrible. Big barrel chest, tiny head, tiny chicken quads and massive flared calves.. Its like they used an opposite machine on all his proportions. And that flaming sword? Lame.


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Now the daemon primarchs on the other hand.. They are amazing models. I hope they make a daemon Angron to the same standard as Magnus.

Don't know what to tell ya, I have both and I think the 40K model is light-years better than the 30K one.

Fair enough, i'm not saying you cant have that opinion, I just don't understand why you would?

 Mr_Rose wrote:
I keep saying this but the reason Robot Guilleman looks so weird is because Cawl went all Robocop on him; that’s also why Yvraine told him to never try to take his armour off – it’s armour all the way down.

And yet he's without his armour for most of his 'screen time' in Watchers of the Throne and seems just fine. Chancellor Tieron even comments on it in his internal monologue.

One way or another that is a continuity error.

Who wants Sanguinius rules?

 Togusa wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Look at the primarch models.. Most (looking at mincing fulgrim here) of them are absolute masterpieces of sculpture and model design. They are miniature works of art. Compared to that, it's just a bit meh.

I dunno about that, 40K Roboute is FAR superior in sculpt than that weak baby-faced one from HH.

what have you been smoking?! ...Absolutely not. The 40k Guilliman looks terrible. Big barrel chest, tiny head, tiny chicken quads and massive flared calves.. Its like they used an opposite machine on all his proportions. And that flaming sword? Lame.


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Now the daemon primarchs on the other hand.. They are amazing models. I hope they make a daemon Angron to the same standard as Magnus.

Don't know what to tell ya, I have both and I think the 40K model is light-years better than the 30K one.

There's no accounting for taste, or lack thereof.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Who wants Sanguinius rules?

I guess that means he's quite likely to be released this Friday then, imagine I will pick him up as I want to get the scenic base which sounds like it's going to be a limited release, which is a bit of a shame as out of all the Primarch models this is probably the one where the scenic base adds the most to the appearance of the model.

Scenic base is, so far as I'm aware, a Warhammer World and Event Exclusive.

Thankfully, some handsome, dashing idiot has a Facebook Group for that

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:


Sorry what? A little childish don't you think?

Well you made claim. And i for one call bull on that one. Is it easy to make claims when you don't intend to prove it? But guess your replw proves you can't get anywhere as good looking sculpt.