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In some pieces he sports a beard, in others just a moustache and yet more pieces he simply looks unshaven.

But whatever.

So, does anybody have unfuzzy rules for the new Solar Auxilia transport?

The Primarchs lived for several centuries, some for several millennia. I'm sure they had plenty of time to have variety of facial hair styles.

Though I'd have to agree that that Dorn sculpt would have been improved by a beard. Less of his ugly face would have been visible.

It's more the sneer that I don't like, the rest is just fine.

I'm late to the complain train, but damn, those Space Wolf upgrades honestly look like 3rd party knock offs. I didn't plan on buying them anyways, but geeze.

 beezley1981 wrote:
I'm late to the complain train, but damn, those Space Wolf upgrades honestly look like 3rd party knock offs. I didn't plan on buying them anyways, but geeze.

It seems that all their decent sculptors are working on Necromunda stuff. Which I certainly approve.

 Crimson wrote:

 beezley1981 wrote:
I'm late to the complain train, but damn, those Space Wolf upgrades honestly look like 3rd party knock offs. I didn't plan on buying them anyways, but geeze.

It seems that all their decent sculptors are working on Necromunda stuff. Which I certainly approve.

And Dorn, which you apparently disagree with, but thats ok.

 beezley1981 wrote:
I'm late to the complain train, but damn, those Space Wolf upgrades honestly look like 3rd party knock offs. I didn't plan on buying them anyways, but geeze.

They're not good. They withdrew the Space Wolf Prætor from sale. Seriously, it's marked as temporarily out of stock. Not sure about the status of the Varagyr, but they're no better in my opinion. Especially the sausage fur and weird head placement.

What was generally expected:



What we ended up with:

 zedmeister wrote:

 beezley1981 wrote:
I'm late to the complain train, but damn, those Space Wolf upgrades honestly look like 3rd party knock offs. I didn't plan on buying them anyways, but geeze.

They're not good. They withdrew the Space Wolf Prætor from sale. Seriously, it's marked as temporarily out of stock. Not sure about the status of the Varagyr, but they're no better in my opinion. Especially the sausage fur and weird head placement.

What was generally expected:

Spoiler:

What we ended up with:

Spoiler:

They also look worse in quality than other HH unique Terminators, like the Grave Wardens.

Hmm, out of stock you say? Any chance the molds are being reworked...?

 beezley1981 wrote:
I'm late to the complain train, but damn, those Space Wolf upgrades honestly look like 3rd party knock offs. I didn't plan on buying them anyways, but geeze.

Yup. They weren't a fan favorite here or elsewhere when the pics got out.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

And Dorn, which you apparently disagree with, but thats ok.

Apart the stupid snarl, Dorn is not bad, he is just kinda boring. But then again, all the Primarchs kinda are.

 Alpharius wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Chances are another gakky meme or youtube video, probably the same one that makes people shriek that Dorn should be in Centurion armour..

That'd be my guess too - glad to see FW resist, if they were even actually ever aware of it.

Tony asked the question in the new model seminar if Dorn should have a 'tash, the overwhelming majority of people voted yes. He then asked if Russ should have a beard like Father Christmas, and a smaller majority said no. So they are aware of it, even if they are a bit perplexed by it.

 zedmeister wrote:

 beezley1981 wrote:
I'm late to the complain train, but damn, those Space Wolf upgrades honestly look like 3rd party knock offs. I didn't plan on buying them anyways, but geeze.

They're not good. They withdrew the Space Wolf Prætor from sale. Seriously, it's marked as temporarily out of stock. Not sure about the status of the Varagyr, but they're no better in my opinion. Especially the sausage fur and weird head placement.

What was generally expected:

What we ended up with:

Ouch. Seeing them like that reminds me how bad the models turned out. Jeez, a faction so many clamored for release and when they drop they are mediocre. That fur especially is just appalling by 2018 standards.

FW is getting really hit-or-miss.

Also, because I know how many folks care - allegedly the Vyronii decals go up for pre-order tomorrow. My excitement is tempered by years of disappointment, but... I am still very excited.

Yeah they've done some mediocre stuff lately, including a lot of the Blood Bowl minis and the Space Wolves. Luckily they hit it out of the park with Necromunda, which is the only thing I care about!

 Alpharius wrote:
And where are all these "Dorn has a Mustache" thoughts coming from?*

*Official sources only please!

No official sources that I'm aware. Even in the FW book, he's drawn with a crew cut an no facial hair.

I think it comes from the Emperor's Text to Speech videos on youtube.

I am excited too, on your behalf

I don't much like the Text To Speech videos, Dorn just seems like the sort of general and tactician who'd have a badass mustache of command.

They have been getting more hit & miss and I was struggling to think why until we got that tidbit from the event that the guy doing the Primarchs is pretty much the only one there who still sculpts traditionally.

Now, there's nothing about CAD that's inherently inferior to physical sculpting, but it does allow for something that physical sculpting really can't - "good enough" sculpts done very quickly. Factor in that apparently much of FW's resources have been focused on Necromunda, and you can see how people tasked to work on HH models under time constraints and managers with release dates to meet could be tempted to hit that "good enough" stage and just send it to the printer.

The issue being of course that the market FW has cultivated with the Heresy range and the prices they charge for those products don't support a "good enough" approach, people expect quality.

 kronk wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
And where are all these "Dorn has a Mustache" thoughts coming from?*

*Official sources only please!

No official sources that I'm aware. Even in the FW book, he's drawn with a crew cut an no facial hair.

I think it comes from the Emperor's Text to Speech videos on youtube.

Yeah, I have no idea where this thing has come from.

And as I said before, Dorn is a shaves-twice-a-day kinda dude anyway.

 gorgon wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
And where are all these "Dorn has a Mustache" thoughts coming from?*

*Official sources only please!

No official sources that I'm aware. Even in the FW book, he's drawn with a crew cut an no facial hair.

I think it comes from the Emperor's Text to Speech videos on youtube.

Yeah, I have no idea where this thing has come from.

And as I said before, Dorn is a shaves-twice-a-day kinda dude anyway.

I thought he just told his facial hair not to grow and it knew it’s role

 Yodhrin wrote:

The issue being of course that the market FW has cultivated with the Heresy range and the prices they charge for those products don't support a "good enough" approach, people expect quality.

Aye. The HH range always had a certain minimalism and a practical, grittier look to them. If you compare the Varagyr with other Heresy terminator units they don't really gel. Gorgons, Sehkmets, Phoenix Terminiators, even the Custodes, they all have a "heavier" looking pose to them. Heavy strides, guns raised to fire, CC weapons held in a practical sense. They don't have an over the top look such as waving weapons around, lunging dramatically or the famous 2D CC weapon in the air, looking sideways, firing the gun. At the risk of sounding snobbish, the Varagyr are more suited to the 40k æsthetic than the 30k æsthetic.

 zedmeister wrote:
At the risk of sounding snobbish, the Varagyr are more suited to the 40k æsthetic than the 30k æsthetic.

I'd clarify that, for me at least, the Varagyr and their SW Praetor look more suited to the 2nd edition 40k asthetic alongside Ragnar Blackmane's sculpt. Even that comparison is a bit embarassing given that the early 1990's sculpt has better looking fur and fully sculpted weapons in his hands.

Indeed :(

I can see why it was withdrawn from sale. Although the sculptor does have talent, his brief or the management of his brief was non existent or crap. It should not have passed the early reviews especially with the æsthetic of the rest of the HH range

If you got rid of the weird tentacle fur and gave them helmets the terminators would be fine.

It's a shame because the power armor upgrades were so good

Vorian wrote:
If you got rid of the weird tentacle fur and gave them helmets the terminators would be fine.

It's a shame because the power armor upgrades were so good

And a pistol grip as well as a sword grip. Plus, get rid of the top knot and do something about the cloak to make it look like a cloak. The knee pads bother me too. As for the upgrades, there's the upside down bolter that needs sorting!

Honestly, just change that fur to something that looks like actual fur and I think the model would be pretty good.

The grip on the combi-bolter does bother me though.

I honestly just don't like the Wolves terminators simply because they're not wearing helmets. Frickin Space Wolves...

 Theophony wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
And where are all these "Dorn has a Mustache" thoughts coming from?*

*Official sources only please!

No official sources that I'm aware. Even in the FW book, he's drawn with a crew cut an no facial hair.

I think it comes from the Emperor's Text to Speech videos on youtube.

Yeah, I have no idea where this thing has come from.

And as I said before, Dorn is a shaves-twice-a-day kinda dude anyway.

I thought he just told his facial hair not to grow and it knew it’s role

Even better.

 BrookM wrote:
The grip on the combi-bolter does bother me though.

What grip?

That is seriously terrible, like a bad conversion.

Vorian wrote:
If you got rid of the weird tentacle fur and gave them helmets the terminators would be fine.

It's a shame because the power armor upgrades were so good

I agree. One might say that the rest of the models aren't FW's absolute best work, but there's a lot of stuff in the HH line that you could say that about. Heads and fur aside, these are pretty solid.

And I still think that 30K fans need to get comfortable with the fact that there's a lot of other stuff going on at the FW studio, and some of those things almost certainly have more corporate priority since they're sold as GW products in stores and on the web.