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 Thargrim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Not to sideline the discussion too much, but are there any solid rumors about Goblin/Grot releases in AoS?

I know it's been talked about, and we have several rumor engine pics that look like spore clouds, squigs and goblin blades, but search as I much I can't find if any reliable sources have confirmed that army.

If there are any grots coming they will probably be moonclan, as they would have been designed alongside the malign portents character. I had heard rumors about them coming in the fall, but it sounded almost like wishlisting to me, so i'll believe it when I see it for now.

The malign portents characters are reflective of the redo of the faction they represent. Darkoath and Moonclan are to come, Nighthaunt and Ordinatus we are seeing in the new set.

If thats the case I hope they find a way to make Darkoath more unique. Cause they kind of feel like khorne barbarians without the khorne aspect...so no theme really beyond barbarian....which is kinda eh. If the moonclan character is any indication I expect them to dial up the fungus mutations and wacky aspect of the grots to a significant degree. A lot of the newer factions seem to be taking a theme and turning it up to the extreme.

I'd prefer them as more generic barbarians, just to balance out all the wacky over the top weirdness in some other factions. Getting a good balance between the normal and the fantastical is crucial to any good fantasy setting imo.

 Thargrim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Not to sideline the discussion too much, but are there any solid rumors about Goblin/Grot releases in AoS?

I know it's been talked about, and we have several rumor engine pics that look like spore clouds, squigs and goblin blades, but search as I much I can't find if any reliable sources have confirmed that army.

If there are any grots coming they will probably be moonclan, as they would have been designed alongside the malign portents character. I had heard rumors about them coming in the fall, but it sounded almost like wishlisting to me, so i'll believe it when I see it for now.

The malign portents characters are reflective of the redo of the faction they represent. Darkoath and Moonclan are to come, Nighthaunt and Ordinatus we are seeing in the new set.

If thats the case I hope they find a way to make Darkoath more unique. Cause they kind of feel like khorne barbarians without the khorne aspect...so no theme really beyond barbarian....which is kinda eh. If the moonclan character is any indication I expect them to dial up the fungus mutations and wacky aspect of the grots to a significant degree. A lot of the newer factions seem to be taking a theme and turning it up to the extreme.

I'd happily take "no theme beyond barbarian". GW could use a couple of ranges that act as the baseline. But that's me.

I'd expect the goblins to go the same route as Daughters of Khaine. We have the extreme of the theme on the character, but fairly basic Night Goblins (that I don't expect to get replaced). Any new units will fall somewhere in the middle to bridge the gap. Not as much shark jumping as Idoneth.

But yeah, I really, really hope the harbingers are the, well, harbingers for their factions as the rumors make out. All I want is a mixed gender Darkoath box. So much I could use that for.

 Mysterio wrote:
Are Kharadron expected to be more...competitive in AoS 2.0?

Or were reports of their demise in AoS 1.0 greatly exaggerated?

The latter. Keep in mind that "bad" more often than not means "not tournament viable" which despite the use is not the same thing at all! It's only the cream of the crop that does well in tournaments--if an army is tournament viable in the current AoS that means it (or sometimes just certain builds) needs to be nerfed.

Well I would LOVE Darkoath but I fear they'll be 2019 and that we'll get Slaanesh first (okay, it's great too).

One of the Moonclan rumors is that there will be full new "baseline" Grots (there is one artwork in Malign Portents of Moonclan Grots with their hoods down).

 HorticulusDK wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Not to sideline the discussion too much, but are there any solid rumors about Goblin/Grot releases in AoS?

I know it's been talked about, and we have several rumor engine pics that look like spore clouds, squigs and goblin blades, but search as I much I can't find if any reliable sources have confirmed that army.

If there are any grots coming they will probably be moonclan, as they would have been designed alongside the malign portents character. I had heard rumors about them coming in the fall, but it sounded almost like wishlisting to me, so i'll believe it when I see it for now.

The malign portents characters are reflective of the redo of the faction they represent. Darkoath and Moonclan are to come, Nighthaunt and Ordinatus we are seeing in the new set.

If thats the case I hope they find a way to make Darkoath more unique. Cause they kind of feel like khorne barbarians without the khorne aspect...so no theme really beyond barbarian....which is kinda eh. If the moonclan character is any indication I expect them to dial up the fungus mutations and wacky aspect of the grots to a significant degree. A lot of the newer factions seem to be taking a theme and turning it up to the extreme.

I'd happily take "no theme beyond barbarian". GW could use a couple of ranges that act as the baseline. But that's me.

I'd expect the goblins to go the same route as Daughters of Khaine. We have the extreme of the theme on the character, but fairly basic Night Goblins (that I don't expect to get replaced). Any new units will fall somewhere in the middle to bridge the gap. Not as much shark jumping as Idoneth.

But yeah, I really, really hope the harbingers are the, well, harbingers for their factions as the rumors make out. All I want is a mixed gender Darkoath box. So much I could use that for.

Well I would LOVE Darkoath but I fear they'll be 2019 and that we'll get Slaanesh first (okay, it's great too).

One of the Moonclan rumors is that there will be full new "baseline" Grots (there is one artwork in Malign Portents of Moonclan Grots with their hoods down).

I won't say no to new Slaanesh models either. The more and the sooner, the better.

Based on what we've seen in the Rumor Engine and various rumors, here is my best guess at the next year:

40k Orks are the next army release, then Space Wolves (including Leman Russ), Genestealers Cults, followed by Moonclan Grots (probably late summer or early fall), then Emperor's Children just before the holidays (based on how Tzeentch and Nurgle were released) with Hosts of Slaanesh coming in February 2019. Supposedly, we're getting a new Xenos faction at some point this year , but I'm not sure where they'll be slotted in.

They've updated the AOS website with the pre order date and the Soul Wars trailer (if you want to watch it for the 100th time like me) :

https://ageofsigmar.com

Considering all the box reveals I'd thought they were going to open pre-orders this weekend; in fact is there anything set for this weekend or is it more knight stuff (since I've kind of been distracted with all the news this week being Sigmar). Unless they are going to have the weekend off (its actually been a heck of al ong time since GW didn't have something new out each WEEK)

 Overread wrote:
Considering all the box reveals I'd thought they were going to open pre-orders this weekend; in fact is there anything set for this weekend or is it more knight stuff (since I've kind of been distracted with all the news this week being Sigmar). Unless they are going to have the weekend off (its actually been a heck of al ong time since GW didn't have something new out each WEEK)

GW almost always tells us on Sunday what is going to be on pre-order that Saturday via Warhammer Community.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/03/pre-order-preview-march-of-the-warglaives/

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Mysterio wrote:
Are Kharadron expected to be more...competitive in AoS 2.0?

Or were reports of their demise in AoS 1.0 greatly exaggerated?

The latter. Keep in mind that "bad" more often than not means "not tournament viable" which despite the use is not the same thing at all! It's only the cream of the crop that does well in tournaments--if an army is tournament viable in the current AoS that means it (or sometimes just certain builds) needs to be nerfed.

Good point(s) - thanks!

I do like the overall look/feel of the Kharadron stuff, so maybe AoS 2.0 will be where I jump in with them.

In others news thread people have posted little snippets of what looks like some sort of pricing sheet. Is it to early for that information or did I miss it earlier in this thread? I have dakka whitelisted on my adblocker, but images on other domains sometimes still get caught.

The general scuttle is that starter is gonna be 160 and the magic addition is gonna be 80. USD...

 Chamberlain wrote:
In others news thread people have posted little snippets of what looks like some sort of pricing sheet. Is it to early for that information or did I miss it earlier in this thread? I have dakka whitelisted on my adblocker, but images on other domains sometimes still get caught.

We haven't gotten that yet. What happens is that the prices are from the solicits that GW sends independent retailers on the week of release.

 rayphoton wrote:
The general scuttle is that starter is gonna be 160 and the magic addition is gonna be 80. USD...

$80 is pretty pricey for an expansion they seem pretty interested in making a core component of the new edition. I naively hoped it would be a loss-leader product that they ate some margin on in exchange for getting all/most players to pick one up. $50 was what I was hoping for.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 rayphoton wrote:
The general scuttle is that starter is gonna be 160 and the magic addition is gonna be 80. USD...

$80 is pretty pricey for an expansion they seem pretty interested in making a core component of the new edition. I naively hoped it would be a loss-leader product that they ate some margin on in exchange for getting all/most players to pick one up. $50 was what I was hoping for.

I think it's worth mentioning that if it includes every single one of the Endless Spells that are in the book, comparing them to the price of the Balewind Vortex solo($15)---it does come close to a loss leader in terms of pricing. Going off a price of $15, it comes out to $195 for just the Endless Spells.

I'd also look at it in terms of this being something that might be considered a "gaming group" purchase rather than every player must own it.

17 individual models (some duplicates I know), some also pretty large, plus spell cards correct? Online discount is closer to $70? Im cool with that. I was picking it up for D&D along with the objective markers, AoS is just an added bonus!

 Geifer wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Not to sideline the discussion too much, but are there any solid rumors about Goblin/Grot releases in AoS?

I know it's been talked about, and we have several rumor engine pics that look like spore clouds, squigs and goblin blades, but search as I much I can't find if any reliable sources have confirmed that army.

If there are any grots coming they will probably be moonclan, as they would have been designed alongside the malign portents character. I had heard rumors about them coming in the fall, but it sounded almost like wishlisting to me, so i'll believe it when I see it for now.

The malign portents characters are reflective of the redo of the faction they represent. Darkoath and Moonclan are to come, Nighthaunt and Ordinatus we are seeing in the new set.

If thats the case I hope they find a way to make Darkoath more unique. Cause they kind of feel like khorne barbarians without the khorne aspect...so no theme really beyond barbarian....which is kinda eh. If the moonclan character is any indication I expect them to dial up the fungus mutations and wacky aspect of the grots to a significant degree. A lot of the newer factions seem to be taking a theme and turning it up to the extreme.

I'd happily take "no theme beyond barbarian". GW could use a couple of ranges that act as the baseline. But that's me.

I'd expect the goblins to go the same route as Daughters of Khaine. We have the extreme of the theme on the character, but fairly basic Night Goblins (that I don't expect to get replaced). Any new units will fall somewhere in the middle to bridge the gap. Not as much shark jumping as Idoneth.

But yeah, I really, really hope the harbingers are the, well, harbingers for their factions as the rumors make out. All I want is a mixed gender Darkoath box. So much I could use that for.

Well I would LOVE Darkoath but I fear they'll be 2019 and that we'll get Slaanesh first (okay, it's great too).

One of the Moonclan rumors is that there will be full new "baseline" Grots (there is one artwork in Malign Portents of Moonclan Grots with their hoods down).

I won't say no to new Slaanesh models either. The more and the sooner, the better.

That seems unavoidable to me. Aside from the daemonettes (including mounts) and chariots, slaanesh basically has nothing , except those really terrible mortal riders based on the old marauders. That doesn't fly.

I'd expect fiends, keeper and themed mortal cultists at minimum. Slaangors too, hopefully. But the mortal units seem necessary to bring them in line with the disciples and bloody blood blooders. Wouldn't say no to a new daemon variety (or two) either. We're well past the days when greater, lesser, beast and mount was acceptable.

I don't expect Slaangors at this point. They keep mentioning the various Beastmen types but so far we have only gotten Tzaangors.

I think they're planning on releasing them with the Beastmen whenever that happens.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I don't expect Slaangors at this point. They keep mentioning the various Beastmen types but so far we have only gotten Tzaangors.

I think they're planning on releasing them with the Beastmen whenever that happens.

True, they haven't done the other two. But it is a possibility, and a slaanesh release absolutely requires new model releases. The Keeper is an obvious one, as the other greaters are already here, but the other gods have had a major increase in mortal and/or daemon models dedicated to them. Daemonettes and generic filler wouldn't be an acceptable retinue.

Voss wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Not to sideline the discussion too much, but are there any solid rumors about Goblin/Grot releases in AoS?

I know it's been talked about, and we have several rumor engine pics that look like spore clouds, squigs and goblin blades, but search as I much I can't find if any reliable sources have confirmed that army.

If there are any grots coming they will probably be moonclan, as they would have been designed alongside the malign portents character. I had heard rumors about them coming in the fall, but it sounded almost like wishlisting to me, so i'll believe it when I see it for now.

The malign portents characters are reflective of the redo of the faction they represent. Darkoath and Moonclan are to come, Nighthaunt and Ordinatus we are seeing in the new set.

If thats the case I hope they find a way to make Darkoath more unique. Cause they kind of feel like khorne barbarians without the khorne aspect...so no theme really beyond barbarian....which is kinda eh. If the moonclan character is any indication I expect them to dial up the fungus mutations and wacky aspect of the grots to a significant degree. A lot of the newer factions seem to be taking a theme and turning it up to the extreme.

I'd happily take "no theme beyond barbarian". GW could use a couple of ranges that act as the baseline. But that's me.

I'd expect the goblins to go the same route as Daughters of Khaine. We have the extreme of the theme on the character, but fairly basic Night Goblins (that I don't expect to get replaced). Any new units will fall somewhere in the middle to bridge the gap. Not as much shark jumping as Idoneth.

But yeah, I really, really hope the harbingers are the, well, harbingers for their factions as the rumors make out. All I want is a mixed gender Darkoath box. So much I could use that for.

Well I would LOVE Darkoath but I fear they'll be 2019 and that we'll get Slaanesh first (okay, it's great too).

One of the Moonclan rumors is that there will be full new "baseline" Grots (there is one artwork in Malign Portents of Moonclan Grots with their hoods down).

I won't say no to new Slaanesh models either. The more and the sooner, the better.

That seems unavoidable to me. Aside from the daemonettes (including mounts) and chariots, slaanesh basically has nothing , except those really terrible mortal riders based on the old marauders. That doesn't fly.

I'd expect fiends, keeper and themed mortal cultists at minimum. Slaangors too, hopefully. But the mortal units seem necessary to bring them in line with the disciples and bloody blood blooders. Wouldn't say no to a new daemon variety (or two) either. We're well past the days when greater, lesser, beast and mount was acceptable.

Khorne and Nurgle also didn't get any new daemon varieties, so I would not expect anything for Slaanesh either (Khorne did not even get a beast actually). Tzeentch is the only one with multiple daemons (three varieties of horror, flamers and screamers). For a Slaanesh release I think they will just update the Greater Daemon and beast sculpt, probably some (new) characters as well. It think the release would be mostly focusing on mortal followers rather than daemons, in line with Khorne and Nurgle.

Well after all these years anything Slaanesh would be fantastic whatever it is!
What I would like would be a kit providing more "normal" demonette faces.
Oh and actually snirking ones would be great.
I can't stand the "screaming banshees" types most of them have.
Those serviceable heads are basically variation o a few CAD nasic design, more variety
would be cool in my book.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

Voss wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Not to sideline the discussion too much, but are there any solid rumors about Goblin/Grot releases in AoS?

I know it's been talked about, and we have several rumor engine pics that look like spore clouds, squigs and goblin blades, but search as I much I can't find if any reliable sources have confirmed that army.

If there are any grots coming they will probably be moonclan, as they would have been designed alongside the malign portents character. I had heard rumors about them coming in the fall, but it sounded almost like wishlisting to me, so i'll believe it when I see it for now.

The malign portents characters are reflective of the redo of the faction they represent. Darkoath and Moonclan are to come, Nighthaunt and Ordinatus we are seeing in the new set.

If thats the case I hope they find a way to make Darkoath more unique. Cause they kind of feel like khorne barbarians without the khorne aspect...so no theme really beyond barbarian....which is kinda eh. If the moonclan character is any indication I expect them to dial up the fungus mutations and wacky aspect of the grots to a significant degree. A lot of the newer factions seem to be taking a theme and turning it up to the extreme.

I'd happily take "no theme beyond barbarian". GW could use a couple of ranges that act as the baseline. But that's me.

I'd expect the goblins to go the same route as Daughters of Khaine. We have the extreme of the theme on the character, but fairly basic Night Goblins (that I don't expect to get replaced). Any new units will fall somewhere in the middle to bridge the gap. Not as much shark jumping as Idoneth.

But yeah, I really, really hope the harbingers are the, well, harbingers for their factions as the rumors make out. All I want is a mixed gender Darkoath box. So much I could use that for.

Well I would LOVE Darkoath but I fear they'll be 2019 and that we'll get Slaanesh first (okay, it's great too).

One of the Moonclan rumors is that there will be full new "baseline" Grots (there is one artwork in Malign Portents of Moonclan Grots with their hoods down).

I won't say no to new Slaanesh models either. The more and the sooner, the better.

That seems unavoidable to me. Aside from the daemonettes (including mounts) and chariots, slaanesh basically has nothing , except those really terrible mortal riders based on the old marauders. That doesn't fly.

I'd expect fiends, keeper and themed mortal cultists at minimum. Slaangors too, hopefully. But the mortal units seem necessary to bring them in line with the disciples and bloody blood blooders. Wouldn't say no to a new daemon variety (or two) either. We're well past the days when greater, lesser, beast and mount was acceptable.

Khorne and Nurgle also didn't get any new daemon varieties, so I would not expect anything for Slaanesh either (Khorne did not even get a beast actually). Tzeentch is the only one with multiple daemons (three varieties of horror, flamers and screamers). For a Slaanesh release I think they will just update the Greater Daemon and beast sculpt, probably some (new) characters as well. It think the release would be mostly focusing on mortal followers rather than daemons, in line with Khorne and Nurgle.

I'd be happy with that. Even if Slaaneshi daemons don't have much in the way of variety, Slaaneshi mortals are in even greater need of something, anything, that gives them an identity. Plus that could add models that could be converted to 40k for more cultist variety there, too. If GW doesn't outright ports them like Tzaangors.

I just hope they do a better sculpting job on the new models than the current daemons. Seekers are possibly the least dynamic and graceful cavalry unit GW ever made. And that's just sad.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/07/7th-june-faction-focus-gutbustersgw-homepage-post-3/

Gutbursters coming to the table

I'm sad that probably we will see shadow and light elves before new ogres...

 Galas wrote:
I'm sad that probably we will see shadow and light elves before new ogres...

Same, if ever there was a faction I wanted to get an actual facelift in AoS it's Ogors.

Kanluwen wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 rayphoton wrote:
The general scuttle is that starter is gonna be 160 and the magic addition is gonna be 80. USD...

$80 is pretty pricey for an expansion they seem pretty interested in making a core component of the new edition. I naively hoped it would be a loss-leader product that they ate some margin on in exchange for getting all/most players to pick one up. $50 was what I was hoping for.

I think it's worth mentioning that if it includes every single one of the Endless Spells that are in the book, comparing them to the price of the Balewind Vortex solo($15)---it does come close to a loss leader in terms of pricing. Going off a price of $15, it comes out to $195 for just the Endless Spells.

I'd also look at it in terms of this being something that might be considered a "gaming group" purchase rather than every player must own it.

That's not a very good value comparison. The endless spells vary wildly in size and complexity. Some look to be only one piece, others could be 4+ pieces. My guess is probably two large sprues.

Voss wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Not to sideline the discussion too much, but are there any solid rumors about Goblin/Grot releases in AoS?

I know it's been talked about, and we have several rumor engine pics that look like spore clouds, squigs and goblin blades, but search as I much I can't find if any reliable sources have confirmed that army.

If there are any grots coming they will probably be moonclan, as they would have been designed alongside the malign portents character. I had heard rumors about them coming in the fall, but it sounded almost like wishlisting to me, so i'll believe it when I see it for now.

The malign portents characters are reflective of the redo of the faction they represent. Darkoath and Moonclan are to come, Nighthaunt and Ordinatus we are seeing in the new set.

If thats the case I hope they find a way to make Darkoath more unique. Cause they kind of feel like khorne barbarians without the khorne aspect...so no theme really beyond barbarian....which is kinda eh. If the moonclan character is any indication I expect them to dial up the fungus mutations and wacky aspect of the grots to a significant degree. A lot of the newer factions seem to be taking a theme and turning it up to the extreme.

I'd happily take "no theme beyond barbarian". GW could use a couple of ranges that act as the baseline. But that's me.

I'd expect the goblins to go the same route as Daughters of Khaine. We have the extreme of the theme on the character, but fairly basic Night Goblins (that I don't expect to get replaced). Any new units will fall somewhere in the middle to bridge the gap. Not as much shark jumping as Idoneth.

But yeah, I really, really hope the harbingers are the, well, harbingers for their factions as the rumors make out. All I want is a mixed gender Darkoath box. So much I could use that for.

Well I would LOVE Darkoath but I fear they'll be 2019 and that we'll get Slaanesh first (okay, it's great too).

One of the Moonclan rumors is that there will be full new "baseline" Grots (there is one artwork in Malign Portents of Moonclan Grots with their hoods down).

I won't say no to new Slaanesh models either. The more and the sooner, the better.

That seems unavoidable to me. Aside from the daemonettes (including mounts) and chariots, slaanesh basically has nothing , except those really terrible mortal riders based on the old marauders. That doesn't fly.

I'd expect fiends, keeper and themed mortal cultists at minimum. Slaangors too, hopefully. But the mortal units seem necessary to bring them in line with the disciples and bloody blood blooders. Wouldn't say no to a new daemon variety (or two) either. We're well past the days when greater, lesser, beast and mount was acceptable.

I would be disappointed to see another marked beastman for Slaanesh. I prefer that each god has a unique feel and thus far, marked beastmen is Tzeentch's thing. It's cool if we see Pestigor, Khorngors, and Slaangors when the Brayherds get expanded, but for now, I'd rather see Slaaneshi humans with the punk rock aesthetic of the Hellstriders, or who follow the Greek theme of the Slaanesh Lord on Daemonic Mount.

Ug, Ironguts were not an underperforming unit...

But tbf the artillery pieces were. And the maneater change will let two units be allied in, so that's good.

 EnTyme wrote:

Spoiler:

Voss wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Not to sideline the discussion too much, but are there any solid rumors about Goblin/Grot releases in AoS?

I know it's been talked about, and we have several rumor engine pics that look like spore clouds, squigs and goblin blades, but search as I much I can't find if any reliable sources have confirmed that army.

If there are any grots coming they will probably be moonclan, as they would have been designed alongside the malign portents character. I had heard rumors about them coming in the fall, but it sounded almost like wishlisting to me, so i'll believe it when I see it for now.

The malign portents characters are reflective of the redo of the faction they represent. Darkoath and Moonclan are to come, Nighthaunt and Ordinatus we are seeing in the new set.

If thats the case I hope they find a way to make Darkoath more unique. Cause they kind of feel like khorne barbarians without the khorne aspect...so no theme really beyond barbarian....which is kinda eh. If the moonclan character is any indication I expect them to dial up the fungus mutations and wacky aspect of the grots to a significant degree. A lot of the newer factions seem to be taking a theme and turning it up to the extreme.

I'd happily take "no theme beyond barbarian". GW could use a couple of ranges that act as the baseline. But that's me.

I'd expect the goblins to go the same route as Daughters of Khaine. We have the extreme of the theme on the character, but fairly basic Night Goblins (that I don't expect to get replaced). Any new units will fall somewhere in the middle to bridge the gap. Not as much shark jumping as Idoneth.

But yeah, I really, really hope the harbingers are the, well, harbingers for their factions as the rumors make out. All I want is a mixed gender Darkoath box. So much I could use that for.

Well I would LOVE Darkoath but I fear they'll be 2019 and that we'll get Slaanesh first (okay, it's great too).

One of the Moonclan rumors is that there will be full new "baseline" Grots (there is one artwork in Malign Portents of Moonclan Grots with their hoods down).

I won't say no to new Slaanesh models either. The more and the sooner, the better.

That seems unavoidable to me. Aside from the daemonettes (including mounts) and chariots, slaanesh basically has nothing , except those really terrible mortal riders based on the old marauders. That doesn't fly.

I'd expect fiends, keeper and themed mortal cultists at minimum. Slaangors too, hopefully. But the mortal units seem necessary to bring them in line with the disciples and bloody blood blooders. Wouldn't say no to a new daemon variety (or two) either. We're well past the days when greater, lesser, beast and mount was acceptable.

I would be disappointed to see another marked beastman for Slaanesh. I prefer that each god has a unique feel and thus far, marked beastmen is Tzeentch's thing. It's cool if we see Pestigor, Khorngors, and Slaangors when the Brayherds get expanded, but for now, I'd rather see Slaaneshi humans with the punk rock aesthetic of the Hellstriders, or who follow the Greek theme of the Slaanesh Lord on Daemonic Mount.

Considering the bull headed Keeper of Secrets, yeah, I think Slaaneshi beastmen are reasonable well covered by the generic models for now (not that I wouldn't take any if GW decided otherwise). Human followers are in greater need as far as I'm concerned. I always liked the Greek helmets Hellstriders are sporting. They give a sleeker look that suits Slaanesh and ties in nicely with the elves as well, now more than ever (considering how "Greek style" is often brought up when talking about Daughters of Khaine). GW should probably take the chance the blank slate of AoS offers to completely divorce new Slaaneshi models from Norsca. Let Khorne keep his viking butchers and give Slaanesh distinct aesthetics better suited to its needs.

Agreed. Like I said, I would prefer each Chaos god's mortal forces to have a unique look and feel. Thus far, they've done a good job of that. I wouldn't hate Slaangors, but I feel like it'd make Slaanesh feel too close to Tzeentch.

Slaanesh daemons are not horribly lacking, like them or not, the daemonettes are new enough and come on seekers and 3 chariot variations. An addition would be welcome, but the 2 resculpts are enough.

Mortals are one kit that is not very popular...