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2018/06/26 16:01:48
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Someone on facebook pointed out the Tauralon has a Hyena mouth, built for ripping and tearing flesh following by the snapping of bones.
That's infinitely cooler than a boring ol' Earth Myth Pegasus.
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2018/06/26 16:22:41
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
judgedoug wrote: Someone on facebook pointed out the Tauralon has a Hyena mouth, built for ripping and tearing flesh following by the snapping of bones.
That's infinitely cooler than a boring ol' Earth Myth Pegasus.
Hmm... I don't know. I'm still not convinced by the head. I believe is because of the eye, maybe because its too close to the mouth, but at least, for me, it doesn't look right.
That does not make the rest of the model less magestic, but personally I would change the head for something different, probably a eagle/bird head. Is not like something is automatically good because its "new", and something isn't automatically bad because is old or based on Earth Myths. Or the inverse.
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/06/26 16:56:08
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
I am really liking this latest round of stormcast. The new models plus the new art which adds a few humanizing bits make me appreciate even the older models more.
I particularly like the winged horse-goat-hyena thing. The juxtaposition of the noble looking rider with what previously would look more like a chaos or "evil" creature is interesting.
2018/06/26 17:45:37
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Kanluwen wrote: While the sexual explicitness might not be "extreme", the perception of it is. It's ridiculous hearing people talking about how Slaanesh is all about orgies and crap like that.
Slaanesh is excess. It's gluttony. It's narcissism. It's loving the fine things in life more than life itself.
Nah dude! Slaanesh is nothing but sex. One of their endless spells is going to be called "Nipplestorm" or something like that. Its going to look amazing.
But no, you are correct. Slaanesh is the God of Excess. I and a few friends of mine once wrote a book about him/her.
Hmm, pure guess but my bets in going off of the pattern of big damage spell, little damage spell and support spell is that Slaanesh will get either a giant crystal or even floating marble statue that are both daemonic but gorgeous and not only damages thoses it flies over but draws them in with it's beauty, smaller spell would resemble a paintbrush but with spiked tentacles on the brush whose purpose is to "paint" the ugly battlefields of the realms into a canvas of ecstatic agony and then a daemon mirror for support that transfixes units with a clear line of sight at it's glass and perhaps lowers their bravery as it shows them their every desire which prompts them to quite the field to indulge themselves.
Once again, pure guessing but I think those would fit the dark god of pleasure.
A giant crystal would be more tzeentch then slaanesh as crystals recur a lot in tzeentch fluff like the infamous crystal labyrinth, daemons attacking fyreslayers for crystal vain in their mines and tzeentch magic crystallising the Dryden falls. I think a twisted crystal spire erupting from the ground could be a good endless spell for tzeentch. Could see possiblely that marble statue for slaanesh though.
2018/06/26 17:55:25
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:She's only £27? Damn, that's quite a breath of fresh air after so many £60+ character models. And the Stormcast book is still only £25? That's impressive too considering the size the thing is going to be now.
Not really. It's not 40K yet. Their sales for Age of Sigmar are no where near 40K or as popular yet where GW can charge the 40K prices. AoS is still a baby, and people still remember the old GW so GW is not going to rush raising the prices to "regular" GW prices.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2018/06/26 18:03:41
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:She's only £27? Damn, that's quite a breath of fresh air after so many £60+ character models. And the Stormcast book is still only £25? That's impressive too considering the size the thing is going to be now.
Not really. It's not 40K yet. Their sales for Age of Sigmar are no where near 40K or as popular yet where GW can charge the 40K prices. AoS is still a baby, and people still remember the old GW so GW is not going to rush raising the prices to "regular" GW prices.
Clearly you're not shopping for Fyreslayers (or Witch Aelves) lately. Fyreslayers are one of the worst priced armies in GW's entire contemporary catalog. :-p
11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted)
2018/06/26 18:23:06
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:She's only £27? Damn, that's quite a breath of fresh air after so many £60+ character models. And the Stormcast book is still only £25? That's impressive too considering the size the thing is going to be now.
Not really. It's not 40K yet. Their sales for Age of Sigmar are no where near 40K or as popular yet where GW can charge the 40K prices. AoS is still a baby, and people still remember the old GW so GW is not going to rush raising the prices to "regular" GW prices.
Clearly you're not shopping for Fyreslayers (or Witch Aelves) lately. Fyreslayers are one of the worst priced armies in GW's entire contemporary catalog. :-p
Sadly life events stopped me from buying so yeah, I couldn't get those models. Hoping to get them one day.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2018/06/26 18:23:42
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/06/26 19:33:18
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:She's only £27? Damn, that's quite a breath of fresh air after so many £60+ character models. And the Stormcast book is still only £25? That's impressive too considering the size the thing is going to be now.
Not really. It's not 40K yet. Their sales for Age of Sigmar are no where near 40K or as popular yet where GW can charge the 40K prices. AoS is still a baby, and people still remember the old GW so GW is not going to rush raising the prices to "regular" GW prices.
Clearly you're not shopping for Fyreslayers (or Witch Aelves) lately. Fyreslayers are one of the worst priced armies in GW's entire contemporary catalog. :-p
judgedoug wrote:I really like the Dracoths and the Stardrake, but I really REALLY like the Tauralon and Dracolines.
Galas wrote:That pegasus is gorgeus. I'm not that fan of the shape of his head/mouth, but the miniature in general is sublime.
I personally loathe the Dracoths, and it's largely because of their stupid mouths, which always struck me as an anatomy error on the sculptors' part, on top of pretty bleh poses. This new pegasus shares the same face problem, as nice as the rest of the critter is. The stardrake dodges the issue with a more developed head - also I just discovered there's a closed-mouth version? Whoa.
For me the gryph chargers are where it's at for Stormy mounts, especially the Lord-Aquillor's with the Lord-Arcanum's in second, and love the dynamism of the units as well. There's still a ridiculous chance I make a gryph charger army, simply on the strength of those chocobo mounts.
But yea, of these two new beasties I really like the cat-lizard. Nice subdued pose and decent anatomy.
- Salvage
Not a fan of the taurolon's head, something off about it I can't put my finger on. More ram like would have fit.
I agree that gryph chargers look great, a bigger and winged variety would be fantastic
2018/06/26 20:43:04
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:She's only £27? Damn, that's quite a breath of fresh air after so many £60+ character models. And the Stormcast book is still only £25? That's impressive too considering the size the thing is going to be now.
Not really. It's not 40K yet. Their sales for Age of Sigmar are no where near 40K or as popular yet where GW can charge the 40K prices. AoS is still a baby, and people still remember the old GW so GW is not going to rush raising the prices to "regular" GW prices.
Erm... Morathi is £80... The infantry boxes are generally £30. Your argument really doesn't hold. Olynder is very cheap in fairness.
2018/06/26 22:22:09
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Not a fan of the taurolon's head, something off about it I can't put my finger on. More ram like would have fit.
I agree that gryph chargers look great, a bigger and winged variety would be fantastic
I would have loved the taurolon to be a big winged gryph thing. I would have gotten that for sure. No way I'm going to get a miniature I don't really like that also has command abilities that only works with Hammers of Sigmar.
Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
2018/06/26 22:53:02
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Not a fan of the taurolon's head, something off about it I can't put my finger on. More ram like would have fit.
I agree that gryph chargers look great, a bigger and winged variety would be fantastic
I would have loved the taurolon to be a big winged gryph thing. I would have gotten that for sure. No way I'm going to get a miniature I don't really like that also has command abilities that only works with Hammers of Sigmar.
You know that it's just for the named character, right?
There's a generic option too. We've seen in the GHB that both of these named characters have unnamed variants too.
2018/06/26 22:54:44
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
You know that it's just for the named character, right?
There's a generic option too. We've seen in the GHB that both of these named characters have unnamed variants too.
That's certainly good news. Probably something for GW to include in the posts about the models. There's really nothing in the warhammer community article that makes these sound like anything other than named heroes.
Though something tells me the generic ones will have very different command abilities. Not saying which will be better or worse, but I can't see them making the named versions with the exact same rules as the generic.
Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
2018/06/27 00:52:32
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
You know that it's just for the named character, right?
There's a generic option too. We've seen in the GHB that both of these named characters have unnamed variants too.
That's certainly good news. Probably something for GW to include in the posts about the models. There's really nothing in the warhammer community article that makes these sound like anything other than named heroes.
Well yeah, because they're just previewing the named heroes. I wish they'd given us previews of the generics--would love to know about the Knight-Zephyros. Naeve Blacktalon is one, but she's the only example we've seen so far--she was "the first" seemingly.
Though something tells me the generic ones will have very different command abilities. Not saying which will be better or worse, but I can't see them making the named versions with the exact same rules as the generic.
Have you looked at Volturnos versus the Akhelian King?
Same stuff, just different numbers. Volturnos' command ability affects 3 units rather than 1 and at 18" rather than 12". The non-CAs are 18" rather than 12" as well.
I'd suspect it will be something like that.
2018/06/27 00:54:53
Subject: Re:The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Man, that Taurolon's mouth is godawful, even though its been said before. Its like it loves its mals to go down whole like a snake; its head is 75% mouth!
Overall stunning models, though. Even mounts like these are little steps towards making me feel like I can imagine more of a living 'feel' to at least some of the realms.
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2018/06/27 10:09:33
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:She's only £27? Damn, that's quite a breath of fresh air after so many £60+ character models. And the Stormcast book is still only £25? That's impressive too considering the size the thing is going to be now.
Not really. It's not 40K yet. Their sales for Age of Sigmar are no where near 40K or as popular yet where GW can charge the 40K prices. AoS is still a baby, and people still remember the old GW so GW is not going to rush raising the prices to "regular" GW prices.
You should look one line lower, at Stormcast guy. He is halfway toward insane pricing of Primaris characters, he should be €20 top, like BA/DA lieutenants.
On a side note, I just realized what Stormcast surfing board reminded me of:
Spoiler:
Also, new look at Stormcast and Spooky endless spells today:
Two big things - painting Stormcast in 'wrong' colours is strongly frowned upon, especially named characters, and new base size list - which tells you to always treat models as if they were on stated bases, even if they are on different ones (say old square ones). Technically, it's 'suggested' change but I can already see tournaments mandating proper colors and bases now.
I wonder, when the wrong paint ban makes over to 40K Space Marines?
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2018/06/27 19:46:05
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Really digging the new Stormcast Beasties too. I think people riding around on weird creatures and shooting giant magic spells is what fantasy is all about!!
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2018/06/27 20:08:40
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
Irbis wrote: painting Stormcast in 'wrong' colours is strongly frowned upon, especially named characters
That's just general anti-proxy sentiment. You are free to paint them whatever colors you want, but if you are benefiting from Hammers of Sigmar-specific rules, your guys should look the part to avoid confusion and cheating.
2018/06/27 20:18:05
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
The wrong paint thing I think will be ignored very fast!
The base size though I like, it clears up an area of confusion for some models; esp as there is still stock out there with old base and players with older collections or second hand models.
It's just a specific occurence of WSIWYG isn't it ?
It is, but one can use it to argue that your custom paint scheme prevents you from using rules dedicated to a specific chamber with a specific paint scheme
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2018/06/27 20:47:04
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
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2018/06/27 20:51:13
Subject: The 2018 Age of Sigmar News & Rumors : page 113 full announcement
It's just a specific occurence of WSIWYG isn't it ?
In 40k if I really like the rules for Dark Angels (for example) but I want paint my marines red, I could invent my own Dark Angels successor chapter. Does Age of Sigmar let me do that? That’s why it’s a problem.