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I like the details on the trolls, but the proportions are a tad too cartoony for my liking.

 Crimson wrote:
I like the details on the trolls, but the proportions are a tad too cartoony for my liking.

same for me, will avoid the new ones and use hag and fellwater which I like

The old Rockgut Trolls look more cartoony than the new ones to me.
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99060209206_StoneTrollAxeandRockNEW01.jpg

Yeah I think I'm going to try to buy as many variations as I can to try to make the army look more diverse. Not sure that'll look good or bad though. I'll see I guess. I already have one from the old Battle for Skull Pass box set.

 Alexonian wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I like the details on the trolls, but the proportions are a tad too cartoony for my liking.

same for me, will avoid the new ones and use hag and fellwater which I like

The Dankholds are specifically called out as eating a kind of fungus that grows within seams of Realmstone and causes their unnatural size compared to other Troggoths.

Why can't they make trolls like these :|

They...do?

That art came with the river troll plastic kit when it came out, iirc (or was heavily reused at that point). That kit hasn't gone away, and things like the skull 'axe' and the vomit are part of the kit.

Don't forget a lot of the "cartoony" can come down to painting style. Nurgle models show this really well and the same model can be equally the stuff of pure nightmare or cartoony. GW tends to err toward the latter in their display photos.

I think this is partly because they are formally advertising the model and thus was the greatest potential appeal to parents and kids as well as adults; but I also think its because many of the more brutal and gruesome and "real" painting methods are often more advanced and complex. On the surface I think GW aims to achieve a studio scheme that isn't too far into the advanced regions that basic beginners can't mimic. Because chances are those studio schemes are what many first time players and collectors are going to choose to paint.

Part of their paint choices also revolve around how well things photograph.

They want to show off details in the photos, as that's the main advertising vector (the grey sprues sealed in a box don't attract the same kind of attention).

Voss wrote:

That art came with the river troll plastic kit when it came out,

the Art is 2 editions older and the plastic river trolls do not really look like the artwork

Voss wrote:
Part of their paint choices also revolve around how well things photograph.

They want to show off details in the photos, as that's the main advertising vector (the grey sprues sealed in a box don't attract the same kind of attention).

Aye its something I wish a lot of other model companies would cotton onto. There are loads who don't even bother to show an actual model today and show a 3D sculpt. That's fine for a pre-release, but once you've got actual models i'd far rather see marketing material with actual photos of actual models and ideally painted ones. There is no denying if you put two websites up - one with nothing or only 3D previews and another with clear well taken photos of painted minis the latter is going to look and likely sell better

 Overread wrote:

Aye its something I wish a lot of other model companies would cotton onto. There are loads who don't even bother to show an actual model today and show a 3D sculpt. That's fine for a pre-release, but once you've got actual models i'd far rather see marketing material with actual photos of actual models and ideally painted ones. There is no denying if you put two websites up - one with nothing or only 3D previews and another with clear well taken photos of painted minis the latter is going to look and likely sell better

This is a problem. To this day, I don't think I've ever seen an official picture of what Malifaux would look like on the table. Also, I'd like Infinity to use paint schemes that us mortals have a chance of pulling off.

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Overread wrote:

Aye its something I wish a lot of other model companies would cotton onto. There are loads who don't even bother to show an actual model today and show a 3D sculpt. That's fine for a pre-release, but once you've got actual models i'd far rather see marketing material with actual photos of actual models and ideally painted ones. There is no denying if you put two websites up - one with nothing or only 3D previews and another with clear well taken photos of painted minis the latter is going to look and likely sell better

This is a problem. To this day, I don't think I've ever seen an official picture of what Malifaux would look like on the table. Also, I'd like Infinity to use paint schemes that us mortals have a chance of pulling off.

Especially since Infinity models are very thin and small to start with! Their photography and product display is great, but yeah its a range I'd honestly say is well aimed at the experienced rather than the novice.

 Overread wrote:

Especially since Infinity models are very thin and small to start with! Their photography and product display is great, but yeah its a range I'd honestly say is well aimed at the experienced rather than the novice.

It's also worth mentioning that a large amount of the detail for faces and things like that isn't actually there and is painted on. It's crazy at times.

 CragHack wrote:
Why can't they make trolls like these :|

Spoiler:

Because they'd be the size of greater daemons and cost £80 each.

I think the Fellwater Troggoths have that general appearance but they're also very fat looking. I think a slimmer Fellwater Troggoth model would look much better.

The artwork Rockgut troggoth certainly have a better muscular bodies than the skinny blank bellies one from the kit.

I will accept Trolls of all shapes and sizes, whether they work out or not.

Troll body shaming is an injustice.

The new Rock Trolls are great IMO.

Considering they all could've ended up like the Underworlds Troggoth, this is a great result that's nostalgic for the original Rock Trolls (which were no less goofy!).

 Alexonian wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I like the details on the trolls, but the proportions are a tad too cartoony for my liking.

same for me, will avoid the new ones and use hag and fellwater which I like

I mean, too each their own but it always seems weird to me when people take issue with stuff in 40k/AoS/WHFB being 'cartoony'. The whole setting's cartoony and over the top. Cartoonish-nesh is to Warhammer what keeping television shows running long after all of the ideas have dried up is to the CW.

 Jjohnso11 wrote:
I think the Fellwater Troggoths have that general appearance but they're also very fat looking. I think a slimmer Fellwater Troggoth model would look much better.

I think the current river trolls fellwater troggoths were a mix of the earlier mentioned art piece from 6th edition and the classic metal models (which were also rather chubby).

The 3rd preview is late! Please be soon or I'll have to *grimaces* sleep before reading it and that'd be preposterous! I need to sleep to the sweet info fix!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/04/4th-jan-gloomspite-gitz-preview-3-warscrollsgw-homepage-post-1/

Warscrolls preview is up!

So 10 boingrot bounders on charge should do around 5 mortal wounds from their impact, then 40 attacks (wounding on 3s for first turn) which could go to wounding on 2s with loonboss on mangler buff. Truly Bretonnia has returned.

Some fun looking rules there. No idea how good/bad/overpowered they are, but the trollboss seems hilarious.

Yep I'm happy with how they're looking. Also love the Loonboss on Mangler Squigs. His visor covering his eyes, and the other Grot holding onto him, the snotling trying to bail and leap off. The coolness is too much. Also the rules look sweet

The Trogboss looks like it will be a dual kit with the normal Dankhold Troggoth, right?





I like the paint scheme on the Dankhold Troggoth wayyyyy better, but it might be awesome to mix and match the different kit options shown

The skull tied to his head isnt doing it for me... everything else is great.

 RiTides wrote:
The Trogboss looks like it will be a dual kit with the normal Dankhold Troggoth, right?

Spoiler:

I like the paint scheme on the Dankhold Troggoth wayyyyy better, but it might be awesome to mix and match the different kit options shown

It looks like his thumbs are sinking into his fingers. Like the sculptor just closed up an open hand in CAD and didn't amend the anatomy. If the finished kit is actually like that I won't be buying one.