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Have GW started to base their single figure made to order prices on ebay buy it now prices or what? Even the good ones like eldar bonesinger used to be cheaper then this. And others less desirable half of this price!

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
Have GW started to base their single figure made to order prices on ebay buy it now prices or what? Even the good ones like eldar bonesinger used to be cheaper then this. And others less desirable half of this price!

Thats what i thought when i see those prices this morning!

Yeah, this new skaven have much higher prices that past releases.

New: made to order "$kaven".

Makes an old guy like me (at least in the realm of what's "old" for a GW player) hurt a little, right there in the corner of my soul, when I remember what they used to cost when they came out originally.

The Thankquol and boneripper set isn't bad at £25 to be fair.
The rest though?
I'll pass lol.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
New: made to order "Skaven".

Makes an old guy like me (at least in the realm of what's "old" for a GW player) hurt a little, right there in the corner of my soul, when I remember what they used to cost when they came out originally.

You should look at ebay - prices there for anything in metal are nuts. Jezzails are around £16 per rat/team on average at present; whilst many leaders are pushing into the £20 bracket. Of course there are a lot of "rare unique exclusive" models kicking around that are priced way above what GW charges new for them. Meanwhile surprisingly the Engineer Gamesday Exclusive model is still in the £15 or so region.

but yeah prices are two to three times what they were when the models first came out. On ebay at least one has limited supply as a mechanic for driving the prices up; esp if the model is clean and not assembled (or at least paint stripped). I assume GW is adding abit more because they are cast on demand - though at least for Skaven they already have to cast metals anyway.


I'm tempted to get the Grey Seer - I already grabbed the assassin model before he was put up.

Jezzails are $55 for 3 from GW... When they came out they were $7 for one to my knowledge. Not sure what inflation has been but pretty sure it isn't that much.

Yeah, I have been pondering a 15 dollar metal Jezzail (see them go for that many times), but it's only acceptable as I just need the one for skirmish purposes.

The 3-man Finecast unit is just highway robbery.

They know whales will pay for it.

Converting them is a pain, too. Same with globadiers except with those the numbers you need relatively are so crazy it is barely worth trying.

Sorry for the local currency, cant seem to be able to make it into dollar or pound in their webstore.

But looking in my order history, I have ordered something from almost every made to order. Here are some example prices.

10/21/2017:
Eldar warlock 80 SEK
Bonesinger 120 SEK

2/24/2018:
Mad Donna Ulanti 80 SEK

5/11/2018:
Lokhir Fellheart 145 SEK

9/12/2018:
Oxyotl 120 SEK (My worst buy ever btw)

12/28/2018:
Vostroyan Officer with Power Fist 180 SEK

So in a year the single figures went from:
80/120 --> 120/145 --> 180

They pushed me out now, and mail to order used to be my favorite thing... sigh..

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Jezzails are $55 for 3 from GW... When they came out they were $7 for one to my knowledge. Not sure what inflation has been but pretty sure it isn't that much.

How long ago was that? I can't think of any living necessity that didn't increase far more than that in my lifetime.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Converting them is a pain, too. Same with globadiers except with those the numbers you need relatively are so crazy it is barely worth trying.

Just use the Skitarii Arquebuses.

 Mymearan wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Converting them is a pain, too. Same with globadiers except with those the numbers you need relatively are so crazy it is barely worth trying.

Just use the Skitarii Arquebuses.

Just made my globadiers from stormvermin bodies, engineer heads moulded from the doomwheel kit, backpacks from maxmini, zombie open hands and 6mm airsoft BBs.
Costs around £40 for 20 globadiers so not all bad.

I got 15 jezzails but I've slowly been picking them up from eBay.
Never paid over £8 for one though, just a case of being patient and waiting on auctions.

Is there a decent/easy conversion option for Ratling Guns or Jezzails online? I tried looking to see if Mantic had any weapon teams for their Veer-Myn Warpath army, but no luck. Honestly, everything I’ve seen, I’d LOVE to run a Skryre/Pestilens joint army (with obligatory clanrats as battleline in a mixed force)...but those two are necessities to pull me from Pestilens/Moulder.

If I’m remembering correctly, I think I heard of a conversion involving Kroot gun arms and and clanrat or stormvermin bodies.

 Mymearan wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Converting them is a pain, too. Same with globadiers except with those the numbers you need relatively are so crazy it is barely worth trying.

Just use the Skitarii Arquebuses.

I do, still a pain and requires additional work to skaven-ify it.


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Jackal90 wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Converting them is a pain, too. Same with globadiers except with those the numbers you need relatively are so crazy it is barely worth trying.

Just use the Skitarii Arquebuses.

Just made my globadiers from stormvermin bodies, engineer heads moulded from the doomwheel kit, backpacks from maxmini, zombie open hands and 6mm airsoft BBs.
Costs around £40 for 20 globadiers so not all bad.

I got 15 jezzails but I've slowly been picking them up from eBay.
Never paid over £8 for one though, just a case of being patient and waiting on auctions.

Nice work! Also highlighting the point of how much work it is... Only 10 more to get one full unit!

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Converting them is a pain, too. Same with globadiers except with those the numbers you need relatively are so crazy it is barely worth trying.

Just use the Skitarii Arquebuses.

I do, still a pain and requires additional work to skaven-ify it.


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Jackal90 wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Converting them is a pain, too. Same with globadiers except with those the numbers you need relatively are so crazy it is barely worth trying.

Just use the Skitarii Arquebuses.

Just made my globadiers from stormvermin bodies, engineer heads moulded from the doomwheel kit, backpacks from maxmini, zombie open hands and 6mm airsoft BBs.
Costs around £40 for 20 globadiers so not all bad.

I got 15 jezzails but I've slowly been picking them up from eBay.
Never paid over £8 for one though, just a case of being patient and waiting on auctions.

Nice work! Also highlighting the point of how much work it is... Only 10 more to get one full unit!

That's only 5 lol, I'll get a group shot later.
I have got 60 converted (only 20 painted)
The heads I have 5 moulds so I can churn out 20 a day or so.
Assembly wise, they take maybe an hour to put together, not all that time consuming.



Jezzails - kroot guns or the long rifle from mechanicus rangers works fine.

Ratling gun - rotor cannons from 30k are the perfect size.

The main thing with skaven is that they don't have to be neat and tidy.
You can literally go wild with conversions until your heart is content as nothing is off limits.


Does bug me that we didn't get a kit though.
Would have liked to see acolyte or weapon teams kit.
Either way, I enjoy converting though so it doesn't bother me too much.

Just goes to show; the amount of effort to convert globadiers properly is crazy. Molds, multiple kits, 3rd party bits, and extra supplies to make guys that are 12 points each! Fortunately for me I only use 5-man units as support if at all. At least jezzails are pretty elite so one does not need many, though even with mechanicus/kroot guns there is a good amount of work to be done.

@ratling guns, the ratling cannons from the stormfiend kit work great and the back end can easily be completed using one of the doomflayer halves from the same kit. Though speaking in tabletop terms just taking the stormfiend is a vastly superior option to the weapon team...

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just goes to show; the amount of effort to convert globadiers properly is crazy. Molds, multiple kits, 3rd party bits, and extra supplies to make guys that are 12 points each! Fortunately for me I only use 5-man units as support if at all. At least jezzails are pretty elite so one does not need many, though even with mechanicus/kroot guns there is a good amount of work to be done.

@ratling guns, the ratling cannons from the stormfiend kit work great and the back end can easily be completed using one of the doomflayer halves from the same kit. Though speaking in tabletop terms just taking the stormfiend is a vastly superior option to the weapon team...

But it's not really "effort" atall.
Moulding takes 10 mins, 5 mins either side of setting time.
The rest is chopping and gluing, as you would with any set.

Effort is gap filling on GWs scenery plastic lol.

Uh, sure.

Getting a bit far afield for the News and Rumors thread, can you take the conversion posts to a new thread please.
Thanks,
ingtaer.

Man, as much as I have been interested in and bought into the. Vigilus stuff for 40k, I am really hoping there is some attention on AoS after this. Let’s get cracking on the Warcry shall we?
I just bought my first AoS army (Maggotkin) and am looking forward to seeing how it fairs in a skirmish setting.

Kendo wrote:
Man, as much as I have been interested in and bought into the. Vigilus stuff for 40k, I am really hoping there is some attention on AoS after this. Let’s get cracking on the Warcry shall we?
I just bought my first AoS army (Maggotkin) and am looking forward to seeing how it fairs in a skirmish setting.

I think the next thing for AoS will be the Khorne Battletome that they've told us is coming. After that I think we need another reveal event because we'll have caught up with all the "its coming" news that GW has given us thus far. The rest are possible things such as Slaanesh Tome and Warcry; whilst anything else is purely guesswork.

So another release event to top up the upcoming list; Khorne Battletome for certain (along with terrain and Endless spell trio).




Personally I'd hope we see the Slaanesh big release sometime soon. They've dragged their heels with Slaanesh for years and its high time the Dark Prince got a new Demon model and a Tome and generally got up to the standard of the other 3 chaos gods (4 if you include the Great Horned One).

Jackal90 wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Converting them is a pain, too. Same with globadiers except with those the numbers you need relatively are so crazy it is barely worth trying.

Just use the Skitarii Arquebuses.

Just made my globadiers from stormvermin bodies, engineer heads moulded from the doomwheel kit, backpacks from maxmini, zombie open hands and 6mm airsoft BBs.
Costs around £40 for 20 globadiers so not all bad..

These look really cool, very well done!

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Is there a decent/easy conversion option for Ratling Guns or Jezzails online? I tried looking to see if Mantic had any weapon teams for their Veer-Myn Warpath army, but no luck. Honestly, everything I’ve seen, I’d LOVE to run a Skryre/Pestilens joint army (with obligatory clanrats as battleline in a mixed force)...but those two are necessities to pull me from Pestilens/Moulder.

If I’m remembering correctly, I think I heard of a conversion involving Kroot gun arms and and clanrat or stormvermin bodies.

A Lot of the easy conversions use the flamethrower dudes

Which goes to show a weapon team kit can be really simple!

That said those flamers in plastic are not going to be cheap/easy to get hold of right now. Probably going to cost more than the £8 or so that the weapon team costs from GW direct.

Hm, are we certain that there will be a new Khorne terrain ? Sure, we saw the "not endless spells" new miniatures in the previous reveal, but since Khorne is quite straightforward, I'm thinking litterally everything GW made as terrain before can be used - you know, the thing GW has with adding skulls anywhere on their terrains. Maybe an opportunity to sell the weird Crucible Khorne Tower from that AoS Dreadhold "Skull is the New Material" Fortress.

You know, that thing :



Or maybe a part of it, like the cauldron on top, who knows. Wouldn't be that surprising.

GW has wanted to encourage terrain sales direct for years, however mostly gamers didn't rush for them even when GW put some rules for them in the book. There were cheaper options or home made or they just gamed at their local GW store or hobby club which already had terrain. So GW wasn't seeing huge sales.

Now once they realised that things like the nurgle plague trees were selling they've latched onto the idea that faction specific terrain sells. Thus all releases going forward are getting at least one unique faction terrain feature. It's another reason why some are also free to take (Eg Skaven Gnawholes) so there's even less reason not to get them. It drives sales of terrain; gets people buying and using GW terrain which might make them pick up more and it also makes the boards even more unique compared to the competition with high quality terrain features.


It's basically a win win for all parties involved and I believe GW confirmed that all new tomes would now come with unique terrain. So yep I figure we will see unique Khorne terrain to go along with three endless spells. A pattern I tihnk we'll see repeating over and over from now on at least with AoS and likely with 40K armies as well (Eldar and Genestealers both got terrain features - heck GSC terrain is a huge mole that inter-connects with several other terrain features alreayd release by GW)

I just want to see them do it like 40k where the terrain costs points to put on the table. Let people bring all that cool dreadhold stuff. I remember back in fan comp days when that was a thing and it was great. The move to make terrain a free part of every allegiance ensures sales of that piece, but only one set of it and only to players of that allegiance. Some generic kits that anyone could bring, and/or the ability to bring multiples by paying extra points, that could drive sales just as well while expanding what's available in the game. I know I'd shell out for some more Nurgle trees and expand my dreadhold collection.


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 Overread wrote:
Which goes to show a weapon team kit can be really simple!

That said those flamers in plastic are not going to be cheap/easy to get hold of right now. Probably going to cost more than the £8 or so that the weapon team costs from GW direct.

Doesn't help that the wft is the only team worth it's points, and all the teams pale in comparison to a stormfiend unit. Seriously... 3 weapon teams costs only slight less than 3 stormfiends.

I sort of get the feeling that GW got itself confused about weapon teams and stormfiends. I sort of tihnk someone had the idea to replace one with the other as a design (which makes sense) and then someone said "hey wait why not as they all look the same, field them as a single unit!"

And they've gone with that and we've wound up with two groups of models that "sort of" do very similar things but don't.