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GoatboyBeta wrote:
No new mortals does seem odd considering every other power has a decent sized range. I suppose its possible that there is a 2nd week or wave. But the wording on the preview certainly makes it sound like the demons are all that is coming.

That's the confusing thing about their post, they said they will be previewing new stuff next week so I better see some mortals or this release is going to be a huge dud.


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Right update on the mortal front. No new mortals.

User: Warhammer Age of Sigmar will there be mortal followers to go along with the daemons ?

Warhammer Age of Sigmar: User there won't be any new mortal followers this week, but a whole game that follows the fortunes of six new tribes of chaos followers is on the way: https://ageofsigmar.com/warcry/

 aracersss wrote:
where does it say that's it for the slaanesh release? ... is it possible a second week with mortals?

It doesn't strictly say that this is al we'll get, nor does it say there will be more.. You could read into their phrasing on holding back of Shalaxi that there are no new models. Equally, you could read into explicitly calling out Chaos Daemons getting rules for 40k that there could be more non-Daemon releases. Neither is watertight proof either way.

"We’ve seen most of the new Slaanesh models before, but there’s one we’ve been holding back until now. Meet Shalaxi Helbane!"

Confirms no mortals. That's too bad.

 shinros wrote:
Right update on the mortal front. No new mortals.

User: Warhammer Age of Sigmar will there be mortal followers to go along with the daemons ?

Warhammer Age of Sigmar: User there won't be any new mortal followers this week, but a whole game that follows the fortunes of six new tribes of chaos followers is on the way: https://ageofsigmar.com/warcry/

That's unhelpful (of GW). I'm sure people will love to make up their AoS armies of the same 6-8 models that may just fit your chosen deity if you squint hard enough...

 shinros wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
No new mortals does seem odd considering every other power has a decent sized range. I suppose its possible that there is a 2nd week or wave. But the wording on the preview certainly makes it sound like the demons are all that is coming.

That's the confusing thing about their post, they said they will be previewing new stuff next week so I better see some mortals or this release is going to be a huge dud.


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Right update on the mortal front. No new mortals.

User: Warhammer Age of Sigmar will there be mortal followers to go along with the daemons ?

Warhammer Age of Sigmar: User there won't be any new mortal followers this week, but a whole game that follows the fortunes of six new tribes of chaos followers is on the way: https://ageofsigmar.com/warcry/

Minus that shameless add, this week is too specific to be ignored.

Although considering that Fiends and Harpist are not here it is quite likely that this is going to be atleast 2 week release.

Sotahullu wrote:

 shinros wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
No new mortals does seem odd considering every other power has a decent sized range. I suppose its possible that there is a 2nd week or wave. But the wording on the preview certainly makes it sound like the demons are all that is coming.

That's the confusing thing about their post, they said they will be previewing new stuff next week so I better see some mortals or this release is going to be a huge dud.


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Right update on the mortal front. No new mortals.

User: Warhammer Age of Sigmar will there be mortal followers to go along with the daemons ?

Warhammer Age of Sigmar: User there won't be any new mortal followers this week, but a whole game that follows the fortunes of six new tribes of chaos followers is on the way: https://ageofsigmar.com/warcry/

Minus that shameless add, this week is too specific to be ignored.

Although considering that Fiends and Harpist are not here it is quite likely that this is going to be atleast 2 week release.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still holding out for new mortals all I am saying is GW should be ready for a wave of salt.

This is exactly the result I was expecting

Mortals aren't in this wave, but heck don't forget we are getting a huge new Keeper of Secrets and a huge prince model - those two alone are huge releases which, for most of the other gods, came on their own with nothing much else at the same time. Add on terrain and other features and its a pretty good release all round.

It's a shame there's no mortals, but lets not forget that there's Warcry and a very likely soon Slaves to Darkness battletome around the corner - so plenty of potential to have unique Slaanesh style mortals in Warcry (it might even be GW's delivery system for them just like the duel army sets); and slaves to darkenss have some very good solid mortal warriors to draw from.

 Overread wrote:
This is exactly the result I was expecting

Mortals aren't in this wave, but heck don't forget we are getting a huge new Keeper of Secrets and a huge prince model - those two alone are huge releases which, for most of the other gods, came on their own with nothing much else at the same time. Add on terrain and other features and its a pretty good release all round.

It's a shame there's no mortals, but lets not forget that there's Warcry and a very likely soon Slaves to Darkness battletome around the corner - so plenty of potential to have unique Slaanesh style mortals in Warcry (it might even be GW's delivery system for them just like the duel army sets); and slaves to darkenss have some very good solid mortal warriors to draw from.

Overread, this is just me but this comment more or less annoys me than makes me feel better. People DON'T want to use slaves to darkness they want their unique mortals like all the other gods which was released WITH their book. This is just how I feel at the moment.

Oh don't get me wrong! I absolutely love that new KoS and that character daemon Prince.

I just have some ideas what I could do with Slaanesh mortals which would make things easier but otherwise I could go with beastmen.

 Overread wrote:
This is exactly the result I was expecting

Mortals aren't in this wave, but heck don't forget we are getting a huge new Keeper of Secrets and a huge prince model - those two alone are huge releases which, for most of the other gods, came on their own with nothing much else at the same time. Add on terrain and other features and its a pretty good release all round.

It's a shame there's no mortals, but lets not forget that there's Warcry and a very likely soon Slaves to Darkness battletome around the corner - so plenty of potential to have unique Slaanesh style mortals in Warcry (it might even be GW's delivery system for them just like the duel army sets); and slaves to darkenss have some very good solid mortal warriors to draw from.

I'll say for this release what I said for a variety of releases over the last decade. A new, shiny, huge centerpiece for your army is worthless if you don't have a proper core to make that army. I'm with Shinros on this. Age of Sigmar has set a reliable precedent by now that the forces of a Chaos God comprise both mortal and daemonic followers, the former of which Slaanesh does not get. Unlike any other god. You'll have to forgive me if I don't consider this a good release, let alone a pretty good one.

On the point of Warcry, surely you see how "potential" is not satisfactory at this point, right? Hedonites had potential for Slaaneshi mortals and look how that went.

If anything, I don’t want Warcry to be where the new mortals for Slaanesh are. I want Warcry to be a look at different Chaos things that we don’t see in AoS, not just more god aligned units that we already have (or should have anyway, in this case).

 Geifer wrote:

 Overread wrote:
This is exactly the result I was expecting

Mortals aren't in this wave, but heck don't forget we are getting a huge new Keeper of Secrets and a huge prince model - those two alone are huge releases which, for most of the other gods, came on their own with nothing much else at the same time. Add on terrain and other features and its a pretty good release all round.

It's a shame there's no mortals, but lets not forget that there's Warcry and a very likely soon Slaves to Darkness battletome around the corner - so plenty of potential to have unique Slaanesh style mortals in Warcry (it might even be GW's delivery system for them just like the duel army sets); and slaves to darkenss have some very good solid mortal warriors to draw from.

I'll say for this release what I said for a variety of releases over the last decade. A new, shiny, huge centerpiece for your army is worthless if you don't have a proper core to make that army. I'm with Shinros on this. Age of Sigmar has set a reliable precedent by now that the forces of a Chaos God comprise both mortal and daemonic followers, the former of which Slaanesh does not get. Unlike any other god. You'll have to forgive me if I don't consider this a good release, let alone a pretty good one.

On the point of Warcry, surely you see how "potential" is not satisfactory at this point, right? Hedonites had potential for Slaaneshi mortals and look how that went.

Agreed, still holding out for mortals but my hype so far has dropped significantly.

Edit:Here comes another nail

Here comes another nail.

User:Any chances to have Slaanesh mortals?

GW:There's no news of mortal followers of Slaanesh emerging from the realms right now, Jérémy, but we do know that we'll soon be seeing a whole lot more from a number of different tribes in Warcry...

Only Khorne has any large number of mortal followers. Tzeench has one unit, Nurgle has one unit (well, two if you count the same unit but on flies), and Slaanesh had one (the marauders on steeds of slaanesh) for a while. All three gods except Khorne have to use Slaves to get any variety of mortal units in. I fully expect a big release of Slaves with refreshed Warriors and Marauders to come within a year now all main gods are updated.

Cronch wrote:
Only Khorne has any large number of mortal followers. Tzeench has one unit, Nurgle has one unit (well, two if you count the same unit but on flies), and Slaanesh had one (the marauders on steeds of slaanesh) for a while. All three gods except Khorne have to use Slaves to get any variety of mortal units in. I fully expect a big release of Slaves with refreshed Warriors and Marauders to come within a year now all main gods are updated.

Tzeentch has the Tzaangor stuff, which while not strictly being mortals still add variety in the way a mortal unit would for Slaanesh.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Cronch wrote:
Only Khorne has any large number of mortal followers. Tzeench has one unit, Nurgle has one unit (well, two if you count the same unit but on flies), and Slaanesh had one (the marauders on steeds of slaanesh) for a while. All three gods except Khorne have to use Slaves to get any variety of mortal units in. I fully expect a big release of Slaves with refreshed Warriors and Marauders to come within a year now all main gods are updated.

Tzeentch has the Tzaangor stuff, which while not strictly being mortals still add variety in the way a mortal unit would for Slaanesh.

Yeah people tend to forget about that.

We could get mortal slaanesh with a emperor's children release, like how tzeentch's tzaangors can be used in both AOS and 40k ?

 Overread wrote:
This is exactly the result I was expecting

Mortals aren't in this wave, but heck don't forget we are getting a huge new Keeper of Secrets and a huge prince model - those two alone are huge releases which, for most of the other gods, came on their own with nothing much else at the same time. Add on terrain and other features and its a pretty good release all round.

It's a shame there's no mortals, but lets not forget that there's Warcry and a very likely soon Slaves to Darkness battletome around the corner - so plenty of potential to have unique Slaanesh style mortals in Warcry (it might even be GW's delivery system for them just like the duel army sets); and slaves to darkenss have some very good solid mortal warriors to draw from.

See, I don't want Warcry to be used to fill holes. I want it to be interesting in its own right.

This was very much a missed opportunity. The new Keeper is an excellent model, probably the best of the greater daemons, but this release is paper thin. I don't even really see the point of an AoS army book with what's available for Slaanesh. Its still just a quarter of the Daemons of Chaos army with... the harpist, the mirror twins and dude with gymanast as new character options, and that's it. As an army book, it lacks an army.

Man the Keeper is just something else. To me the best model GW has ever designed.

In regards to mortals. Yeah it sucks, but seriously? This is a boatload of new Slaanesh models and all some people can do is complain about how it isn't enough.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Man the Keeper is just something else. To me the best model GW has ever designed.

In regards to mortals. Yeah it sucks, but seriously? This is a boatload of new Slaanesh models and all some people can do is complain about how it isn't enough.

Erm, I don't think this is a case where you can say "this isn't enough." When all the other three gods have their own dedicated mortal groups. At the current moment IF they're aren't any mortals GW are pretty much telling people who have been waiting years to play STD, while the other god groups have their own unique models, with unique rules.

They only way I can see them making STD interesting is where your selected sub-group modifies the models rules in some fashion. I don't want to play slaves to darkness, I want to play hosts of slaanesh.

This is so laughable. I'm so of glad I'm dropping this game.

Voss wrote:
As an army book, it lacks an army.

-Named Keeper
-Keeper
-Exalted Keeper
-Masque
-Named DP
-Mirror jesters
-Harp herald
-Foot herald
-Chariot herald
-Exalted chariot herald
-Seeker chariot
-Exalted chariot
-Hellmower
-SLord on daemonic mount
-SLord on foot
-Fiends
-Daemonettes
-Seekers
-Hellstriders
-Spawn
-War mammoth
-Lord on manticore
-Lord on daemonic mount
-Lord on foot
-Sorcerer on manticore
-Sorcerer on foot
-Exalted hero
-Warriors
-Chosen
-Marauders
-Marauder horsemen
-Chaos chariots
-Gorebeast chariots
-Warshrine
-Knights
-Furies
-Soul grinder
-Potential for new warscrolls from existing kits (herald on hellmower, for example)


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 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Man the Keeper is just something else. To me the best model GW has ever designed.

In regards to mortals. Yeah it sucks, but seriously? This is a boatload of new Slaanesh models and all some people can do is complain about how it isn't enough.

Erm, I don't think this is a case where you can say "this isn't enough." When all the other three gods have their own dedicated mortal groups. At the current moment IF they're aren't any mortals GW are pretty much telling people who have been waiting years to play STD, while the other god groups have their own unique models, with unique rules.

They only way I can see them making STD interesting is where your selected sub-group modifies the models rules in some fashion. I don't want to play slaves to darkness, I want to play hosts of slaanesh.

Nurgle has blightkings. A bunch of mortal characters, but otherwise just blightkings. Slaanesh will beat other gods in daemon characters, by a fair margin. I also think it is unreasonable to say StDs don't count, when for the vast majority of warhammer the entirety of each god faction was them plus daemons. Further, daemons are part of hosts of Slaanesh. These are new hosts of Slaanesh models any way you slice it.

So what if I don't want to play a daemon army or slaves to darkness Ninth? I mean with the other gods you have that option why doesn't slaanesh?

Was just going to say dont they have more models than the Fyreslayers, or flesh eater courts, Beastclaw Raiders who got a book but I honestly dont know whats in it for their options. Maybe others who got books recently..

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Voss wrote:
As an army book, it lacks an army.

-Named Keeper
-Keeper
-Exalted Keeper
-Masque
-Named DP
-Mirror jesters
-Harp herald
-Foot herald
-Chariot herald
-Exalted chariot herald
-Seeker chariot
-Exalted chariot
-Hellmower
-SLord on daemonic mount
-SLord on foot
-Fiends
-Daemonettes
-Seekers
-Hellstriders
-Spawn
-War mammoth
-Lord on manticore
-Lord on daemonic mount
-Lord on foot
-Sorcerer on manticore
-Sorcerer on foot
-Exalted hero
-Warriors
-Chosen
-Marauders
-Marauder horsemen
-Chaos chariots
-Gorebeast chariots
-Warshrine
-Knights
-Furies
-Soul grinder
-Potential for new warscrolls from existing kits (herald on hellmower, for example)

Battletome: Slaves to Darkness

 Quarterdime wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Voss wrote:
As an army book, it lacks an army.

-Named Keeper
-Keeper
-Exalted Keeper
-Masque
-Named DP
-Mirror jesters
-Harp herald
-Foot herald
-Chariot herald
-Exalted chariot herald
-Seeker chariot
-Exalted chariot
-Hellmower
-SLord on daemonic mount
-SLord on foot
-Fiends
-Daemonettes
-Seekers
-Hellstriders
-Spawn
-War mammoth
-Lord on manticore
-Lord on daemonic mount
-Lord on foot
-Sorcerer on manticore
-Sorcerer on foot
-Exalted hero
-Warriors
-Chosen
-Marauders
-Marauder horsemen
-Chaos chariots
-Gorebeast chariots
-Warshrine
-Knights
-Furies
-Soul grinder
-Potential for new warscrolls from existing kits (herald on hellmower, for example)

Battletome: Grand Alliance Chaos w/ Mark of Slaanesh

Only half of those are marked.

Slaves to Darkness it is.

 shinros wrote:
So what if I don't want to play a daemon army or slaves to darkness Ninth? I mean with the other gods you have that option why doesn't slaanesh?

You can? Hellstriders are battleline with allegiance as I recall. And before you say it, Nurgle also has only one dedicated mortal troop. Also, you just got a terrain piece and who knows how many artifact/trait/battalion options. But go ahead and make yourself unhappy.


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 Quarterdime wrote:
Slaves to Darkness it is.

So half the army, which is Slaanesh-only, does not count. Solid logic.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 shinros wrote:
So what if I don't want to play a daemon army or slaves to darkness Ninth? I mean with the other gods you have that option why doesn't slaanesh?

You can? Hellstriders are battleline with allegiance as I recall. And before you say it, Nurgle also has only one dedicated mortal troop. Also, you just got a terrain piece and who knows how many artifact/trait/battalion options. But go ahead and make yourself unhappy.

Ok, so how come GW can't give us a blight king like troop? I mean nurgle has a mounted option and foot option. I would be happy with just that since you could fill the rest of the gaps with the new daemons.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 shinros wrote:
So what if I don't want to play a daemon army or slaves to darkness Ninth? I mean with the other gods you have that option why doesn't slaanesh?

You can? Hellstriders are battleline with allegiance as I recall. And before you say it, Nurgle also has only one dedicated mortal troop. Also, you just got a terrain piece and who knows how many artifact/trait/battalion options. But go ahead and make yourself unhappy.

Nurgle has 2. Blightkings and Pusgoyles. Khorne has 3 or 4, and Tzeentch has 3 including Tzaangor stuff.

Slaanesh has 1 basic non-mounted troop choice, and only 1 choice full stop if you don’t want to go Daemons.

 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 shinros wrote:
So what if I don't want to play a daemon army or slaves to darkness Ninth? I mean with the other gods you have that option why doesn't slaanesh?

You can? Hellstriders are battleline with allegiance as I recall. And before you say it, Nurgle also has only one dedicated mortal troop. Also, you just got a terrain piece and who knows how many artifact/trait/battalion options. But go ahead and make yourself unhappy.

Ok, so how come GW can't give us a blight king like troop? I mean nurgle has a mounted option and foot option. I would be happy with just that since you could fill the rest of the gaps with the new daemons.

They could, and it would be nice. It sucks that mortals did not get a new dedicated unit.