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The new Prince is Xerxes, though, and greco-roman is covered by (dark) elves already. You'll just have to settle for ball gagged Persians.

I always liked the helmets Hellstriders got, though. If that's a recurring theme, I'll be happy. I would have done so much with them back in the day if they had been available on an upgrade sprue or even a larger infantry box instead of a five-man cavalry unit.

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 Overread wrote:
their current rule where they get another attack for the whole game every turn that they kill less than a dice roll suggests that they might still be a bit like that if they don't get a good few rolls on that dice early on.

It's a rule that I hope vanishes as its very unreliable and I think harkens back to the more jovial launch rules. The problem being it means that they are always underperforming and that they actually need to perform weakly and be used poorly early on (or only character hunt)
The rule is worthless against elite armies too, which is a shame. On the upside against swarmy foes, especially those hitting on a 5+ (their hit penalty makes them quite durable in that case) they can really stack the bonus attacks hard and become a huge threat. I had hellstriders running around with 6 attacks each a couple times and that was pretty fun.

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Galas wrote:I hope the slaanesh MORTALS go more grecorroman.
The BDSM things works better for demons or 40k cultists, but if I imagine one fantasy society that would be into adoring slaanesh as their god, I would think in decadent grecoroman ones, like the old slaanesh lord in demonic mount, just like Tzeench mortals go with the egyptian look of esoteric cultist with gods that are giant men with animal heads.
The new Demon Prince gives me hope that could be the case.


Geifer wrote:The new Prince is Xerxes, though, and greco-roman is covered by (dark) elves already. You'll just have to settle for ball gagged Persians.

I always liked the helmets Hellstriders got, though. If that's a recurring theme, I'll be happy. I would have done so much with them back in the day if they had been available on an upgrade sprue or even a larger infantry box instead of a five-man cavalry unit.


Elves are now bald sea monkeys or witch elves or shadow dragon/light angels, though

I was thinking about this thread (which is obviously why I went to Dakka and clicked on it) and that I, too, would love an Ancient Greek-flaire to AoS Slaanesh, with the mounted lord and the hellstriders leaning in that direction. 40k pre-Heresy EC were basically that, though, so for AoS they might go with "ball-gag Persians"

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I actually like them going somewhat more persian or middle eastern aesthetic with slaanesh

Also ive got a feeling if we get Slaangores they will be in warcry the slakefray and the other symbol both have the skinned flesh aesthetic



   
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I'm not going to object if we also get Slaaneshi styled stuff in Warcry, since I hope that it's not just unmarked Chaos worshippers from across the Realms but there's also a component of god worship and god specific gifts bestowed on worthy or lucky warriors. However, unlike for instance Darkoath in Shadespire which give us Darkoath models before the army is even released, we're going to get the Slaanesh battletome before Warcry. There had better be mortals with the actual Slaanesh release, regardless of what Warcry may bring. Anything else would just be silly.

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 Geifer wrote:
I'm not going to object if we also get Slaaneshi styled stuff in Warcry, since I hope that it's not just unmarked Chaos worshippers from across the Realms but there's also a component of god worship and god specific gifts bestowed on worthy or lucky warriors. However, unlike for instance Darkoath in Shadespire which give us Darkoath models before the army is even released, we're going to get the Slaanesh battletome before Warcry. There had better be mortals with the actual Slaanesh release, regardless of what Warcry may bring. Anything else would just be silly.


I assume is is going to be unmarked Chaos worshipers, since I thought the whole story was regular mortals trying to get the attention of the gods. So having any marked warriors wouldn't make sense. Though having some trying to look like they think their god might like would make sense. But I'm thinking the initial warbands are themed around different realms.
   
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I know I'm hoping for modeling options in a time when GW ever increases their monopose nonsense, but a sprue with the same shoulder pad or belt buckle or what have you that is available both unmarked and with an icon on it, or little dangling bits you can add to the model somewhere, or mutation bitss themed around the various gods, now that would be something.

Not likely and as you say it's probably going to be just unmarked models themed around the Realms and at the most a progression system that tells you to paint your Slaanesh boys pink if they get the attention of their god.

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Perhaps unmarked but themed towards (as they’d have a god in mind they want to worship etc?)

Mothman, I would love a spoiler tag on that huge picture..
   
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Rules are up on the New Zealand site for the new warbands.

Ylthari(the Sylvaneth warband leader) is a "Thornwych". The Archer Tree-Revenant is listed as having a "Revenant Bow".

Might be a sneak peek of what to expect for the Sylvaneth book?
Yuuuuuup, looks like for sure a sneak peek.
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At LVO hey all but said the warband would be a preview into a Sylvaneth battletome, I agree this is definitely a sneak peek. Also fits with the upcoming gloomspite/sylvaneth starter.

Bows I find interesting, could it be an additional kit for revenants with bows? A rebox with a new sprue?

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
At LVO hey all but said the warband would be a preview into a Sylvaneth battletome, I agree this is definitely a sneak peek. Also fits with the upcoming gloomspite/sylvaneth starter.

Bows I find interesting, could it be an additional kit for revenants with bows? A rebox with a new sprue?

It could be a new sprue with a few torsos and/or legs added in.
   
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 Geifer wrote:
The new Prince is Xerxes, though, and greco-roman is covered by (dark) elves already. You'll just have to settle for ball gagged Persians.

Nothing Persian about it. Unless you mean “300 movie persian”, which is entirely different from Persian.
You know that movie isn't in any way historically accurate, right? Neither in story nor in aesthetics?

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Historical accuracy is not a prerequisite for lexical meaning. Nor is any word restricted to only a single meaning.

If a comic or movie depicts something and calls that thing Persian, and enough people accept this and use it themselves, then that thing is Persian, regardless of historical accuracy or the original meaning of Persian.

300 gave us an image of Persians, and no matter how inaccurate you may think that depiction is, at this point in time it's culturally relevant and in use, and any similar design that is compared to it will use the terminology given in 300.

That concludes today's lesson on how language works. Actually, wait. I've got another one.

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 Geifer wrote:
300 gave us an image of Persians, and no matter how inaccurate you may think that depiction is, at this point in time it's culturally relevant and in use, and any similar design that is compared to it will use the terminology given in 300.

“If some movie created some racist stereotype we should use that racist stereotype forever” .
This is a bad take Geifer and you should be better than that.

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Can use, not should use. Whether you adopt an idea or not is a personal choice.

Am I to understand that you have an issue with 300's depiction of Persians because you see it as racist?

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Geifer, you are acting like Persian was on par with, say, vampire. Like “Vampire the Mascarade redefined the concept of vampire” was comparable to “300 redefined what a Persian is”.

It is not. There is real Persian and there is fake antagonist Persian in one movie where all Persian are caricatured as evil degenerate creatures. And you can't put both on the same level.

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I always think of Night Goblin hoods and Cauldron helmets when I think Persian.
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Geifer, you are acting like Persian was on par with, say, vampire. Like “Vampire the Mascarade redefined the concept of vampire” was comparable to “300 redefined what a Persian is”.

It is not. There is real Persian and there is fake antagonist Persian in one movie where all Persian are caricatured as evil degenerate creatures. And you can't put both on the same level.


Well, I'm not. So what was the problem again?

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 Geifer wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Geifer, you are acting like Persian was on par with, say, vampire. Like “Vampire the Mascarade redefined the concept of vampire” was comparable to “300 redefined what a Persian is”.

It is not. There is real Persian and there is fake antagonist Persian in one movie where all Persian are caricatured as evil degenerate creatures. And you can't put both on the same level.


Well, I'm not. So what was the problem again?

That your original premis was wrong. I know what you mean about the meaning and use of words changing over time, this is generally a fact of language, but if someone is referring to something as being Persian then they are specifically referring to the country of Persia, it's long history and culture, and should not be referring to a highly styalised film based on a comic book as that use would be inacurate.
   
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Getting a bit far afield here, whether the model in question may have drawn some influence from the film 300 or not is one thing. Arguing about how 300 portrays Persians however is not really appropriate for the News and Rumours thread for AOS.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/04/21/coming-next-week-slaanesh-rises/

Next week


So .. no mortals.. and no dices...

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Boooooring!

zamerion wrote:
So .. no mortals.. and no dices...


Yeah, that's on me. Those are the things I want, so those are also the things GW won't give us.

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But no actual Slaanesh mortal followers.

   
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Yeah, this is really concerning if this comes out and there are no new mortal models people are going to be pissed I assure you. Right now this announcement has really deflated my excitement.
   
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So, that's all the models for now. No Slaanesh cultists, I'm afraid :(

 
   
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 stahly wrote:
So, that's all the models for now. No Slaanesh cultists, I'm afraid :(


Honestly I am praying that there are new mortals, I will be flabbergasted if GW is doing a god release without any new mortals. They better be ready for the back lash if we are only getting new daemons.
   
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 stahly wrote:
So, that's all the models for now. No Slaanesh cultists, I'm afraid :(


Seems odd there's no mention of Fiends and the harpist, though. If those two kits are not next week, we might get another week of releases, considering the Khorne side of Wrath and Rapture has been released separately already.

Not that I'd expect mortal followers. Because that would be fun and we can't have that.

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Not fond of the new keeper shown, prefer the one they previewed last month
   
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No new mortals does seem odd considering every other power has a decent sized range. I suppose its possible that there is a 2nd week or wave. But the wording on the preview certainly makes it sound like the demons are all that is coming.
   
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where does it say that's it for the slaanesh release? ... is it possible a second week with mortals?
   
 
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