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Slaanesh: The Lore on Warhammer Community.

We were wrong. He wasn't Pinhead after all


He was actually:



Also, aren't Warhammer orc boyz gone? Weird to see them in the artwork

New fantasy terrain in the vein of the new 40K stuff would get me very excited! The azyrite ruins are nice enough but don't provide a lot of variety in the volumes needed for skirmish gaming.

There are still 2 ork based factions in Destruction

I wish they'd bring out more Slannesh models that lean more into the Hellraiser pleasure=pain angle.

The Infernal Enrapturess is a good start.

 Geifer wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they were saving Slaanesh mortals for an AoS/40k reveal. Tzaangors are used in both 40k and fantasy. And Kairac alcoytes were used in artwork depicting tzeentch cults in 40k. They could be saving them for cultist chaff when they release Emperor's Children further down the line

That would be a bit backwards, though. On the Age of Sigmar side you'd end up with one of the following:

1. You need the Hedonites battletome along with a campaign book for the rules for mortal followers, which will either be bogus because it's so close to the battletome that you have to wonder why they are not just in the battletome or so far removed that that's not an issue, but you're back to the the old Slaaneshi problem of waiting forever to get new models.

2. You're getting an updated battletome with the same timeline problems as above.

3. Slaanesh gets two battletomes, one for daemons, one for mortals, when every other Chaos God has been consolidated into a single book.

None of these are ideal and as the continued addition of originally Age of Sigmar (or Warhammer Fantasy even) Tzeentch units shows, GW is not averse to crossing over stuff whenever a new book is ready rather than holding back some stuff for a specific release. Otherwise Tzaangors wouldn't have gotten their 40k release first.

The problem is that AoS Slaanesh gets its book now and I have a hard time believing there is some master plan for surprising us with mortal models within a decent time frame.

They could put the warscrolls & point costs in the newest GHB, which everyone will have anyways.

Its been confirmed on stream, no new mortals. Hellstriders have been split into two for their weapons.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they were saving Slaanesh mortals for an AoS/40k reveal. Tzaangors are used in both 40k and fantasy. And Kairac alcoytes were used in artwork depicting tzeentch cults in 40k. They could be saving them for cultist chaff when they release Emperor's Children further down the line

That would be a bit backwards, though. On the Age of Sigmar side you'd end up with one of the following:

1. You need the Hedonites battletome along with a campaign book for the rules for mortal followers, which will either be bogus because it's so close to the battletome that you have to wonder why they are not just in the battletome or so far removed that that's not an issue, but you're back to the the old Slaaneshi problem of waiting forever to get new models.

2. You're getting an updated battletome with the same timeline problems as above.

3. Slaanesh gets two battletomes, one for daemons, one for mortals, when every other Chaos God has been consolidated into a single book.

None of these are ideal and as the continued addition of originally Age of Sigmar (or Warhammer Fantasy even) Tzeentch units shows, GW is not averse to crossing over stuff whenever a new book is ready rather than holding back some stuff for a specific release. Otherwise Tzaangors wouldn't have gotten their 40k release first.

The problem is that AoS Slaanesh gets its book now and I have a hard time believing there is some master plan for surprising us with mortal models within a decent time frame.

They could put the warscrolls & point costs in the newest GHB, which everyone will have anyways.

Indeed they could. I'm not even too bothered by the specific release model given it's AoS. The warscrolls are freely accessible. I'm just not keen on document or rules bloat. I still like the idea that if you play an army, you buy and bring one book and have everything you'll ever need.

Edit: I'm also not keen on waiting for models that may never come. I've done that plenty with GW, and it's been upsetting every time seeing others get new toys while you sit there and wonder why GW deems exactly your faction of choice unworthy of new models.

As such I would have appreciated seeing Slaaneshi mortals, even if I ended up disliking their look.

 shinros wrote:
Its been confirmed on stream, no new mortals. Hellstriders have been split into two for their weapons.

I always wondered why people thought mortals would come with the god specific books. If anything it's more likely they come with the slaves to darkness/Darkoath book, whenever that is due.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 shinros wrote:
Its been confirmed on stream, no new mortals. Hellstriders have been split into two for their weapons.

I always wondered why people thought mortals would come with the god specific books. If anything it's more likely they come with the slaves to darkness/Darkoath book, whenever that is due.

New mortals came out with the other god releases. This post does not make sense to me.

 Geifer wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they were saving Slaanesh mortals for an AoS/40k reveal. Tzaangors are used in both 40k and fantasy. And Kairac alcoytes were used in artwork depicting tzeentch cults in 40k. They could be saving them for cultist chaff when they release Emperor's Children further down the line

That would be a bit backwards, though. On the Age of Sigmar side you'd end up with one of the following:

1. You need the Hedonites battletome along with a campaign book for the rules for mortal followers, which will either be bogus because it's so close to the battletome that you have to wonder why they are not just in the battletome or so far removed that that's not an issue, but you're back to the the old Slaaneshi problem of waiting forever to get new models.

2. You're getting an updated battletome with the same timeline problems as above.

3. Slaanesh gets two battletomes, one for daemons, one for mortals, when every other Chaos God has been consolidated into a single book.

None of these are ideal and as the continued addition of originally Age of Sigmar (or Warhammer Fantasy even) Tzeentch units shows, GW is not averse to crossing over stuff whenever a new book is ready rather than holding back some stuff for a specific release. Otherwise Tzaangors wouldn't have gotten their 40k release first.

The problem is that AoS Slaanesh gets its book now and I have a hard time believing there is some master plan for surprising us with mortal models within a decent time frame.

They could put the warscrolls & point costs in the newest GHB, which everyone will have anyways.

Indeed they could. I'm not even too bothered by the specific release model given it's AoS. The warscrolls are freely accessible. I'm just not keen on document or rules bloat. I still like the idea that if you play an army, you buy and bring one book and have everything you'll ever need.

Edit: I'm also not keen on waiting for models that may never come. I've done that plenty with GW, and it's been upsetting every time seeing others get new toys while you sit there and wonder why GW deems exactly your faction of choice unworthy of new models.

As such I would have appreciated seeing Slaaneshi mortals, even if I ended up disliking their look.

Agreed.


On an unrelated note, the fluff for the DP special characters is cute; most romantic model in AoS.

So, can someone corroborate the detail that the lords of slaanesh are getting the axe?

Lord Kragan wrote:
So, can someone corroborate the detail that the lords of slaanesh are getting the axe?

According to facebook it was confirmed on the stream. I am waiting for confirmation.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 shinros wrote:
Its been confirmed on stream, no new mortals. Hellstriders have been split into two for their weapons.

I always wondered why people thought mortals would come with the god specific books. If anything it's more likely they come with the slaves to darkness/Darkoath book, whenever that is due.

You mean apart from the previous God specific books that have come with mortals, right?

Slaves to Darkness are generic/undivided that can be marked. The god specific mortal/non-daemon units are in the god specific books.

What is/are the lords of slaanesh?

Basic mortal Lords with mark of Slaanesh, they could ride the boob-worm.

Ah! That guy. I only play 40k so I don't understand some of the AOS stuff. I wasn't expecting mortals until Emperors Children honestly.

Weird if its true, since they showed them off in artwork the other day. (The older model)

Well he's still in the grand alliance books with the other slaves to darkness stuff so you can still take him.

GaroRobe wrote:
Weird if its true, since they showed them off in artwork the other day. (The older model)

That was old artwork from the realmgate wars campaign book.

Well I just finished my Slaanesh Chaos/Beast Lord with desert themed base. Sadly I only like the desert base part.

Now I just need some extra 40 Ungors outside of Battleforce.

have they commented something about artefacts and warlord traits are for all chaos or only mortals/daemons?

Very odd move, besides the age of the models but that hasn’t stopped GW before. My theory is it has something to do with the upcoming Darkoath release but time will tell.

zamerion wrote:
have they commented something about artefacts and warlord traits are for all chaos or only mortals/daemons?

There's no mortal lords in the book - both the mortal lord on foot and on the mount (boob snake) are removed from the book. This VERY strongly suggests that the two models will also be retired (I think in some overseas territories they already are out of sale).

The only mortals are the hellstriders who are now spit into two different units based on their weapons; they justified this by stating that by giving them different core stat lines and point values they could better balance them rather than keeping them as a single unit with a weapon choice.


They did say that if you had or wanted the lord on foot/mount you could easily proxy those for a chaos lord from Slaves to Darkness and then give them a Mark of Slaanesh. So you could still put those models to good use. Athough there was some chatter that some abilities within the book only work on models from the book whilst those who gain a mark of slaanesh won't get to benefit from them. This is likely to help keep allies a thing, but without breaking balance and making it too good.

Thanks for the information.

I asked more than anything to know if beasts of chaos could use the artefacts. It seems that they will only limit the keyword SLAANESH.

Is Syll’Esske a play on word with Silex?

From TGA

Rundown from the Stream

-4 battalions in the book, and they are altered (in some unclear manner) based on what Host type you take.
- No Khorne allies (nice)
- Slaanesh keyword units are all allowed, so Beastmen and Slaves to Darkness can still be Slaanesh allegiance
- Can sacrifice Hero wounds on Fane... or give it an artefact. Still not clear what the latter does.
- Keeper of Secrets 1v1'd Archaon at "lunchtime" in a game as a Pretenders general.
- Archaon and Skarbrand got trashed during practice game, which was "quite fast"
- Keeper of Secrets battalion confirmed.
- Endless Spells are called "dreaded Visage, Mesmerising Mirror, and ..." one I couldn't make out. Mesmerising Mirror is a control space spell, that discourages people from getting to close (for some reason). Face with tendrils debuffs bravery and includes mortal wounds.
- Contorted Epitome: pair of Heralds, take energy and send it back to the Temple of Mirrors. Mirror also slows enemy combat (as we know), 2 spells: Overwhelming Acquiescence, and one I don't remember.
- Heralds are ALL WIZARDS and are split between "foot" and "mounted". Heralds can ride all the chariot types including Hellflayers.
- Overwhelming Acquiescence spell gives re-roll ones and can be cast an infinite number of times ( though still only once per caster)
- Seeker chariots get buffs to charges and impact MWs
- Hellflayer chariots are "more about the grind", and has more overall attacks than the Seeker Chariot.
- The Exalted Seeker Chariot includes both Hellflayer and Seeker chariot rules.
- The chariot rules caused the rules design team to rethink "monstrous cavalry in AOS" as a general concept, and the Slaanesh book is the first rollout of the new ideas.
- Contorted Epitome and Keeper of Secrets are the designers two favorite warscrolls in the book.
- Keeper Warscroll has a ton of options to differentiate them (apparently. This part was hard to understand - could've talked about different options in the army, e.g. artefacts or host).
- Battletome is definitely supposed to help shut down FEC by shutting down Savage Strike and command abilities with at least two different spells.
- EXALTED KEEPER OF SECRETS will get an updated warscroll to bring it in line with the new Keeper so that it "works along side it and doesn't seem weird" whatever that means.
- Depravity Points summoning costs went up, but aligned to points costs
- Depravity Points can only be used to summon - no other fun things.
- Infernal Enrapturess didn't change at all since W&R.
- MORTAL LORDS OF SLAANESH ARE NOT in battletome. Neither foot nor mounted.
- Still thinking over what to do with mortals - distinct possibility Slaanesh will be the first Chaos god with a separate book for their mortals.

Interesting stuff.

Any mention on Fiends?

shinros wrote:
Archaon and Skarbrand got trashed during practice game, which was "quite fast"

Of course they did.

Absolutely lame that they are dumping the Slaanesh-specific lords. I am surprised after they had boobsnake presented front-and-center on the headline article just last week. Holding out hope they come back later with some sort of mortal slaanesh release but really dissapointed now.


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 His Master's Voice wrote:

shinros wrote:
Archaon and Skarbrand got trashed during practice game, which was "quite fast"

Of course they did.

Yeah, I'm sure there was no context which gave an immense advantage to the slaanesh side or anything


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shinros wrote:
From TGA

Rundown from the Stream

-4 battalions in the book, and they are altered (in some unclear manner) based on what Host type you take.
- No Khorne allies (nice)
- Slaanesh keyword units are all allowed, so Beastmen and Slaves to Darkness can still be Slaanesh allegiance
- Can sacrifice Hero wounds on Fane... or give it an artefact. Still not clear what the latter does.
- Keeper of Secrets 1v1'd Archaon at "lunchtime" in a game as a Pretenders general.
- Archaon and Skarbrand got trashed during practice game, which was "quite fast"
- Keeper of Secrets battalion confirmed.
- Endless Spells are called "dreaded Visage, Mesmerising Mirror, and ..." one I couldn't make out. Mesmerising Mirror is a control space spell, that discourages people from getting to close (for some reason). Face with tendrils debuffs bravery and includes mortal wounds.
- Contorted Epitome: pair of Heralds, take energy and send it back to the Temple of Mirrors. Mirror also slows enemy combat (as we know), 2 spells: Overwhelming Acquiescence, and one I don't remember.
- Heralds are ALL WIZARDS and are split between "foot" and "mounted". Heralds can ride all the chariot types including Hellflayers.
- Overwhelming Acquiescence spell gives re-roll ones and can be cast an infinite number of times ( though still only once per caster)
- Seeker chariots get buffs to charges and impact MWs
- Hellflayer chariots are "more about the grind", and has more overall attacks than the Seeker Chariot.
- The Exalted Seeker Chariot includes both Hellflayer and Seeker chariot rules.
- The chariot rules caused the rules design team to rethink "monstrous cavalry in AOS" as a general concept, and the Slaanesh book is the first rollout of the new ideas.
- Contorted Epitome and Keeper of Secrets are the designers two favorite warscrolls in the book.
- Keeper Warscroll has a ton of options to differentiate them (apparently. This part was hard to understand - could've talked about different options in the army, e.g. artefacts or host).
- Battletome is definitely supposed to help shut down FEC by shutting down Savage Strike and command abilities with at least two different spells.
- EXALTED KEEPER OF SECRETS will get an updated warscroll to bring it in line with the new Keeper so that it "works along side it and doesn't seem weird" whatever that means.
- Depravity Points summoning costs went up, but aligned to points costs
- Depravity Points can only be used to summon - no other fun things.
- Infernal Enrapturess didn't change at all since W&R.
- MORTAL LORDS OF SLAANESH ARE NOT in battletome. Neither foot nor mounted.
- Still thinking over what to do with mortals - distinct possibility Slaanesh will be the first Chaos god with a separate book for their mortals.

Thanks for sharing.

And mounted hellmowers!? I had hoped but not expected... I may seriously get into slaanesh again as that is one of my favorite models (I don't know why, it just clicks with me).