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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 05:43:14
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Charging Dragon Prince
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I had hoped for the Skycutter as it is a really nice kit and mentioned in the background, however, they hadn't shown almost any high elf models (Phoenix Guard and Swift hawk ranger) when the cities of Sigmar was previewed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 06:11:07
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh man, and I never managed to grab the skycutter bird as a bit purchase. The Imperium archers are just getting a rebase, right, next you tell me they'll nuke state troops...sigh.
Will need to get the Freeguild General and the Witch Hunter at least. A lot of sweet Woodies are getting axed as well, but the humans have more immediate use to me.
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 06:21:32
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Foxy Wildborne
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F to pay respects
Sad and surprised to see this stuff go.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 06:33:35
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Charging Wild Rider
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The Empire/Freeguild archers had been out of stock for the last few days already - had been looking to purchase an additional set. And now they may be gone for good... so much for getting notice.
Indeed, 14/34 kits already can't be ordered on my local website, 9 of which are fully sold out online (wonder if the other 5 will be back before disappearing completely).
EDIT: Ordered the few things I wanted that were still available for purchase. Think I'll scour the full website again in a few days to see if there's anything else I might want to get before it could just disappear unexpectedly.
Wonder how much of GW's "AoS" revenue is people still panic buying old Warhammer Fantasy kits. Probably not a lot, but I'm definitely not the only one...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 06:45:11
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Vihti, Finland
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Well some of these kits are getting rebased (propably).
Edit: And I am taking these words back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 07:01:14
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Charging Wild Rider
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Most of the Freeguild range requires rebasing however, and the state troops, greatswords, outriders etc. are not in this list.
Interestingly, neither is the plastic Freeguild general on foot, who I don't think could be rebased anyway (one of those plastic characters that comes with a scenic square base on the sprue).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 08:35:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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If they were getting rebased, they'd just go Temporarily Out of Stock. If they're LCTB, when they're gone they're gone.
I'm really pissed that they're getting rid of the Archers, those are an amazing kit for doing conversions. I have a couple of spare boxes already, but I also have a couple of boxes worth of the old Free Company and I'm much more hesitant to use parts from them now I know I can never get more without paying scalper/"collectible" prices on ebay & now I'll be stuck with the same second-guessing feeling whenever I want to use an Archer body or head. Bah.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 09:54:12
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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And so the erosion of any 'normal' fantasy stuff continues.
Losing the Wood Elf stuff is particularly galling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 10:09:14
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd be shocked if we don't get more dragons from GW, but at the same time its a big shame to see the original plastic dragon going away. I'm also surprised at the glade guard and things like the skycutter and dragon knights etc... There's certainly a few in that list that I fully expected - like the HE swordmasters - but a good few that are quite a shock that GW is pulling from the range.
That said we don't know what they might release in extra for other factions. We could see them add new dragons or eagles to the game or something else akin to them at a future date.
It's a shame to see such a heavy handed pruning of the range, but in the end I think we all sort of knew this day would come when AoS launched. Best we can do is grab what you want and press on to the future and cross our fingers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 10:14:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Dakka Veteran
Vihti, Finland
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Well okay, gonna take my Word back as this came up from GW Newsletter (bit late):
It's your Last Chance to Buy these classic Aelf, Duardin and Free Peoples models! If you've always dreamed of owning these miniatures, this is your final opportunity to secure yours – they're going fast and not coming back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 10:23:29
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Huh, well that goes a long way to answering my question of how quickly they might axe lines. Though I am stunned it was something other than slaves to darkness first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 10:28:58
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Overread wrote:I'd be shocked if we don't get more dragons from GW, but at the same time its a big shame to see the original plastic dragon going away. I'm also surprised at the glade guard and things like the skycutter and dragon knights etc... There's certainly a few in that list that I fully expected - like the HE swordmasters - but a good few that are quite a shock that GW is pulling from the range.
That said we don't know what they might release in extra for other factions. We could see them add new dragons or eagles to the game or something else akin to them at a future date.
It's a shame to see such a heavy handed pruning of the range, but in the end I think we all sort of knew this day would come when AoS launched. Best we can do is grab what you want and press on to the future and cross our fingers.
The finecast characters make sense, plastic troop kits for free peoples, which are hardly well represented by new kits and with no sign of any upcoming, going are an unpleasant surprise.
I worry what's going to happen to the elves. I know they want stuff that's less generic fantasy, but if that means more stuff like those sort of Elves in Beastgrave...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 10:31:18
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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YeOldSaltPotato wrote:Huh, well that goes a long way to answering my question of how quickly they might axe lines. Though I am stunned it was something other than slaves to darkness first.
How come? Slaves to Darkness are a confirmed faction and honestly don't have much to any real bloat in their range. There'd be no reason to axe them unless they were replacing - though footed mauraders could be dropped in light of warcry warbands replacing them as generic foot warriors.
The Aelf, Dwarf and Human factions getting mashed into 1 single army book spoke of big cuts, bigger than if Aelfs got put into their own book, which is what many were expecting would happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 10:39:46
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Sad to see so many great kits and models go but it was always going to happen, plus it clears the way for new fresh ideas for those factions in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 10:48:50
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Elven Dragon Princes going out is the only, in my opinion, real loss here. Theres no replacement in the market for that kit, so good, in plastic and cheap.
Normal humans, dwarfs, characters, dragons, theres a ton of options for those even if Im really sad the dwarfs that were previewed in the first WD I bought (January 2006) are going out after all these years. I know warriors and quarrelers were old kits but I always loved them.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 10:53:52
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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silverstu wrote:Sad to see so many great kits and models go but it was always going to happen, plus it clears the way for new fresh ideas for those factions in the future.
Agreed, but its a huge shame that many high elf players have lost so much and that any potential new aelf armies might not appear until next year at best. Even though GW has teased the two aelf forces of light and dark for ages now, they've still put them on the back burner for a long while. Then again I think they've likely changed the plans for them a dozen times since AoS launched, but its still odd for them to cut such a swathe through the model line today and yet not have an aelf army come out later this year to give restored hope and bolster the support. Instead the only potential new army is a hinted at Death Army which is coming a bit of a surprise in terms of the fact that its not an army that GW has hinted at for years.
If they released that draconic dark aelf force today then the loss of things ilke the high elf dragon and dragonriders would feel like far less of a sting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 11:13:43
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Charging Wild Rider
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silverstu wrote:Sad to see so many great kits and models go but it was always going to happen, plus it clears the way for new fresh ideas for those factions in the future.
Looking at the stormcast, the new flavours of dwarfs, and now what they're doing with the wood elves, I'd say thanks, but no thanks. I have no specific intention of boycotting Age of Sigmar products, it's just that so far there has been precious little that I like the look of. Too exaggerated, too over-the-top, not grounded enough in reality and tradition. This was of course becoming apparent from the start, but those new elfauns really hammer it home. I have never seen wood elves I disliked until they came along - I'll take the glade guard over them or the tree revenants every day of the week, 52 weeks a year. Or I would have taken them, if they were available for purchase...
Yeez, 26/34 now sold out. So glad I took a few minutes before heading out this morning to order what I wanted, instead of thinking about it a tad longer. Wonder how many were already sold out when GW sent the email...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 11:18:44
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Dakka Veteran
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Overread wrote:YeOldSaltPotato wrote:Huh, well that goes a long way to answering my question of how quickly they might axe lines. Though I am stunned it was something other than slaves to darkness first.
How come? Slaves to Darkness are a confirmed faction and honestly don't have much to any real bloat in their range. There'd be no reason to axe them unless they were replacing - though footed mauraders could be dropped in light of warcry warbands replacing them as generic foot warriors.
The Aelf, Dwarf and Human factions getting mashed into 1 single army book spoke of big cuts, bigger than if Aelfs got put into their own book, which is what many were expecting would happen.
Mostly because they weren't the ones getting rules, I didn't see a mass purge coming for the folks that did get rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 11:33:37
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Coenus Scaldingus wrote: silverstu wrote:Sad to see so many great kits and models go but it was always going to happen, plus it clears the way for new fresh ideas for those factions in the future.
Looking at the stormcast, the new flavours of dwarfs, and now what they're doing with the wood elves, I'd say thanks, but no thanks. I have no specific intention of boycotting Age of Sigmar products, it's just that so far there has been precious little that I like the look of. Too exaggerated, too over-the-top, not grounded enough in reality and tradition. This was of course becoming apparent from the start, but those new elfauns really hammer it home. I have never seen wood elves I disliked until they came along - I'll take the glade guard over them or the tree revenants every day of the week, 52 weeks a year. Or I would have taken them, if they were available for purchase...
Yeez, 26/34 now sold out. So glad I took a few minutes before heading out this morning to order what I wanted, instead of thinking about it a tad longer. Wonder how many were already sold out when GW sent the email...
The last chance went up at the New Zealand time slot for updates - so midnight for the UK. The emails went out far later; and the community site still hasn't got a post. Plus we know GW wasn't holding vast stocks and they don't appear to be casting to order so its basically burning through whatever stock was left over. And that's before we add ebay stores which like to resell who are likely jumping at ordering to put the prices up later.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 11:43:10
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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YeOldSaltPotato wrote: Overread wrote:YeOldSaltPotato wrote:Huh, well that goes a long way to answering my question of how quickly they might axe lines. Though I am stunned it was something other than slaves to darkness first.
How come? Slaves to Darkness are a confirmed faction and honestly don't have much to any real bloat in their range. There'd be no reason to axe them unless they were replacing - though footed mauraders could be dropped in light of warcry warbands replacing them as generic foot warriors.
The Aelf, Dwarf and Human factions getting mashed into 1 single army book spoke of big cuts, bigger than if Aelfs got put into their own book, which is what many were expecting would happen.
Mostly because they weren't the ones getting rules, I didn't see a mass purge coming for the folks that did get rules.
They're purging them because they're getting rules. They'll have evaluated the entire line at once for the release and removed whatever they thought was surplus or didn't work for the new book. If there is a slaves to darkness book on the horizon in sure one or two bits might get dropped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 11:45:52
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Coenus Scaldingus wrote: silverstu wrote:Sad to see so many great kits and models go but it was always going to happen, plus it clears the way for new fresh ideas for those factions in the future.
Looking at the stormcast, the new flavours of dwarfs, and now what they're doing with the wood elves, I'd say thanks, but no thanks. I have no specific intention of boycotting Age of Sigmar products, it's just that so far there has been precious little that I like the look of. Too exaggerated, too over-the-top, not grounded enough in reality and tradition. This was of course becoming apparent from the start, but those new elfauns really hammer it home. I have never seen wood elves I disliked until they came along - I'll take the glade guard over them or the tree revenants every day of the week, 52 weeks a year. Or I would have taken them, if they were available for purchase...
Yeez, 26/34 now sold out. So glad I took a few minutes before heading out this morning to order what I wanted, instead of thinking about it a tad longer. Wonder how many were already sold out when GW sent the email...
Yeah its a shame- I saw my dwarfs really were on the way out when AoS first hit - its all about allowing GW to do new things. Fortunately for me I do love the Kharadrons [didn't like the Fyreslayers]. You never know what's coming in the future.. I was shocked by the Kharadrons initially [I've collected dwarfs since 1st Ed ]. AoS is about GW stopping having to continually revisit the same things over and over, they are doing the same with 40k only more slowly I think. Hopefully a new faction will come out that catch your eye, but it does suck when your faction stops being supported model wise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 12:14:42
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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Blast. 8AM here in the US East Coast, and it looks like I've missed my shot. All the good stuff is gone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 12:36:10
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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As a 25-year GW vet it's sad to see a great era finally die.
Luckily, I am a bigger fan of the Ironbreakers/longbeards kits than the older warriors and ranged troops. GW has always had a hard time with their dwarven aesthetic looking good (they all have legs like the grandpa off of King of the Hill).
I just wish they would unify all the modern Dwarf kits into an official "Duardin" faction for AoS. With the current three plastic characters, two remaining dual kits and the Gyrocopter kit, only one or two new kits (like a fully Duardin steam tank) would give them as much variety as, say, Fyreslayers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 13:00:39
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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So how is this 'Free Cities' army gonna work if pretty much all characters have been discontinued?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 13:01:33
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Called it! i wish I hadn't, as it is such a shame to see GW purge the last remaining WFB models. I imagine Lizardmen and Skaven will be getting an overhaul soon as well.
stonehorse wrote:
I must have missed that. Just checked the GW site and yeah, gone, along with White Lions, High Elf Spearmen, High Elf Archers, and Empire Knights. I stongly susspect that this book is going to be one last hurrar for the none AoS minis. Once the book and the models have sold out, they'll be gone. It is so sad to see them go, WFB was my go to game since the late 90's, seeing it being shredded like that is just deflating. Sure the world went, but we could at the very least still buy the minis and continue to play.
Maybe I am no longer GW's target, classic fantasy must not have the same appeal as it once did.
At least the artwork is nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 13:03:44
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Crimson wrote:So how is this 'Free Cities' army gonna work if pretty much all characters have been discontinued?
Probably the characters will just be re-released with round bases in a couple of months.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 13:09:44
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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balmong7 wrote: Crimson wrote:So how is this 'Free Cities' army gonna work if pretty much all characters have been discontinued?
Probably the characters will just be re-released with round bases in a couple of months.
Other characters/singe plastics that have gone round base havent gone LCTB before re-appearing have they? eg. Cairn Wraith
LCTB means get it before it's gone forever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 13:26:45
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Already been through this with my Lost and the Damned from the Eye of Terror campaign.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 13:33:17
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Cataphract wrote:Already been through this with my Lost and the Damned from the Eye of Terror campaign.
You really haven't though. There's a difference between an army from a campaign supplement that encouraged you to "make the most of your bits box!"(remember the Mutant that was basically just an Ork torso with arms and a peg leg lower body?) and fully supported armies that people built up in a previous iteration of the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/03 13:36:34
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumors
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balmong7 wrote: Crimson wrote:So how is this 'Free Cities' army gonna work if pretty much all characters have been discontinued?
Probably the characters will just be re-released with round bases in a couple of months.
Orcs boyz and frinds would beg to differ...
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