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 Kanluwen wrote:
You really haven't though. There's a difference between an army from a campaign supplement that encouraged you to "make the most of your bits box!"(remember the Mutant that was basically just an Ork torso with arms and a peg leg lower body?) and fully supported armies that people built up in a previous iteration of the game.

Orks, Catachans and Zombies thankyouverymuch!

Supplemented with some Chaos Marauders they were quite the mini kit.

I imagine the mere thought of such a product these days would send GW into conniptions.

Anyway, I can imagine order book being next in line or coming very soon.

Well, yeah. We know a Free Cities book is coming.

Sotahullu wrote:
Anyway, I can imagine order book being next in line or coming very soon.

Yep. This was announced at the AoS weekend (or whatever it was called). They announced the book and culling a handful of units. Apparently a handful = a full third, with very little rhyme or reason. Some are going, nigh identical kits from the same period (or older) are staying. Including some giant hand elf kits that are far inferior to what's being tossed out.

Serious question: what "giant hand elf kits" are staying that you know of?

Because I'm thinking you're referring to the Dark Elf Warrior kit...and that is not the "giant hand elf kit". It's not a Morley sculpt, it was done a few years before AoS dropped and came as part of a wave of releases including the Dark Riders, Executioners/Black Guard, and the Assassin/Shadowblade blister.

In the subject of books.

We know they were doing ‘At Least One’ more book for all four factions still to come.
Was that just before Hedonites? So it being them, Cities and Slaves. Then still a destruction and death to come? (Ogres and this new death character that’s being talked about perhaps?)

Danny76 wrote:
In the subject of books.

We know they were doing ‘At Least One’ more book for all four factions still to come.
Was that just before Hedonites? So it being them, Cities and Slaves. Then still a destruction and death to come? (Ogres and this new death character that’s being talked about perhaps?)

Ogres, Orruks, Free Cities are the three we know about.

Orruks are getting a combined battletome that we know of was was shown at the last event.

Free Cities (Aelves, dwarves and free peoples) also got one spoilt at that last event

Orgres we've not had a tome confirmed, but they have shown one new model and a suggestion that there's a duel army set coming (like Looncurse) so that's a given that Ogres will get one and likely "soon" (ergo this year).

Death has one to come since GW said that each Grand Alliance had "at least one more" Tome to be released. However we've no idea what this could be nor any timeframe on it.


After that we've no news at all. Many thought Slave to Darkness would get a new Tome with Warcry launching, but we've not seen one; but its still a strong contender for this year . Especially as it would also combine Everchosen and thus pretty much nearly complete Chaos. That would let GW end 2019 with 3 completed Grand Alliances and only a few armies in Order, who do already ahve battletomes and just need updated ones (Seraphon, Overlords).

 Overread wrote:
Death has one to come since GW said that each Grand Alliance had "at least one more" Tome to be released. However we've no idea what this could be nor any timeframe on it.

Most likely tied to the video we saw recently from the Age of Sigmar Open Day, but there's no confirmation on that.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Serious question: what "giant hand elf kits" are staying that you know of?

Because I'm thinking you're referring to the Dark Elf Warrior kit...and that is not the "giant hand elf kit". It's not a Morley sculpt, it was done a few years before AoS dropped and came as part of a wave of releases including the Dark Riders, Executioners/Black Guard, and the Assassin/Shadowblade blister.

They look like big enough hands to me, regardless of who sculpted them. The hornblower's hand is literally the size of his head.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Serious question: what "giant hand elf kits" are staying that you know of?

Because I'm thinking you're referring to the Dark Elf Warrior kit...and that is not the "giant hand elf kit". It's not a Morley sculpt, it was done a few years before AoS dropped and came as part of a wave of releases including the Dark Riders, Executioners/Black Guard, and the Assassin/Shadowblade blister.

I think those were sculpted by Steve Buddle and they have humongous hands.

Well the "Culling" wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Losing the War Altar seems odd though, as well as the Empire General kit.

Seems mostly the Finecast are going and a good chuck of the elves. I feel sorry for people who use Dragon Princes as a proxy for Blood Knights and missed getting them though.

Just noticed that several of the kits that got culled were part of the mercenary companies rules, like the Dwarf cannon, Organ Gun, and the Empire General.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Just noticed that several of the kits that got culled were part of the mercenary companies rules, like the Dwarf cannon, Organ Gun, and the Empire General.

Yeah that was a very odd set of choices - it makes me think one of two things:

1) It's another victim of GW's internal segmentation of staff which results in different departments doing different things without knowing what the other is doing. Causing a backfire when models are removed by one department choice, but another department was pushing sales of them

2) They are iconic enough that GW will bring them back with a new kit in the "future" however the cull had to happen before the release and GW isn't forthcoming on when any release might happen (it might be that its ready to go or that its in the pot for the future - which means that it could well get delayed or cancelled at a latter date).

Either way its not ideal for now for them to push a mercenary force one month and then strip away the models the next.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Just noticed that several of the kits that got culled were part of the mercenary companies rules, like the Dwarf cannon, Organ Gun, and the Empire General.

Well GW left doesnt now what the right does. Also they are going to resell that book with updated rules Lets not forget the latest Space Wolves codex was invalid before it hit the shelves.

It is important to note that the first Ravaged Lands :Graveyard has half of the terrain cards using graveyard models as well parts of the starter set's terrain. So it's not restricted to what is in the Ravaged Lands box only.

I expect the Shattered Stormvault will do the same (especially with that big Sigmar head statue).

A follow up to Orcs and Goblins I guess. AOS is such a mess. I'll chalk it up to the change in management and the long time that it takes GW to create new stuff, but you have multiple armies getting squatted a few years into a game's life, after having done the same thing before when introducing the said game system. It just creates a bad feeling for anyone who bought one of these armies hoping to play AoS, only to find that their army is going bye-bye.

It's funny because the difference between 40k and AoS is night and day. That said, it's also why I won't spend another dollar on vanilla marines right now.

There go my Swifthawk plans. Oh well.

Not like GW aren't getting my money anyway with Warcry, so they've lost nothing.

I know that they’re trying to tidy up AoS, but I can’t help but wonder how their recent decisions will pan out. I’m hoping that they’re planning to build upon the humans, aelves and duardin rather than gradually getting rid of them.

Something that has been mentioned multiple times in fluff now is Necromancers being carried on zombie-palanquins. Normally I would disregard as a one-off sort of thing but I can recall three instances now; a malign portents short story, the Soul Wars novel, and the Forbidden Power book. Perhaps something coming in the new battletome?

Ah yeah the Orruk book.. so technically Ogres could be next year and their claim still true..

But Chaos, even if StD doesn’t come for them, the Hedonites book was after that announcement right?

Lot of square bases on that last chance to buy. Haven't somethings gone that way and then come back rebased?

Tastyfish wrote:
Lot of square bases on that last chance to buy. Haven't somethings gone that way and then come back rebased?

From the Warhammer Age of Sigmar Facebook page:

As above.

But also no.
Anything last chance to buy has never come back as far as I know.
When things were being rebased they just went Temp out of stock.

Danny76 wrote:
As above.

But also no.
Anything last chance to buy has never come back as far as I know.
When things were being rebased they just went Temp out of stock.

Not necessarily. If they were Direct Only items(which would mean they get sent in white boxes) then yes they just went temporarily out of stock.
Items that were in store at the time went "No Longer Available" and then were repackaged into a fresh packaging set.

Danny76 wrote:
Ah yeah the Orruk book.. so technically Ogres could be next year and their claim still true..

But Chaos, even if StD doesn’t come for them, the Hedonites book was after that announcement right?

No, it was before. They said that at Warhammerfest, and the Slaanesh stuff was available to buy there (I was umming and ahhing over the KoS for a good while in the shop). The Chaos tome could be Tzeentch 2.0 though, I think a lot of the Tzeentch book has been errata’d now.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
As above.

But also no.
Anything last chance to buy has never come back as far as I know.
When things were being rebased they just went Temp out of stock.

Not necessarily. If they were Direct Only items(which would mean they get sent in white boxes) then yes they just went temporarily out of stock.
Items that were in store at the time went "No Longer Available" and then were repackaged into a fresh packaging set.

But No Longer Available and Temporarily Out Of Stock are both not the Last Chance To Buy Status.
I’m talking Last Chance. Nothing that went that has ever come back. Right?


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 ImAGeek wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Ah yeah the Orruk book.. so technically Ogres could be next year and their claim still true..

But Chaos, even if StD doesn’t come for them, the Hedonites book was after that announcement right?

No, it was before. They said that at Warhammerfest, and the Slaanesh stuff was available to buy there (I was umming and ahhing over the KoS for a good while in the shop). The Chaos tome could be Tzeentch 2.0 though, I think a lot of the Tzeentch book has been errata’d now.

Ah ok. Well that’s good. As potentially it would be Slaves. But yeah I suppose could be an easy book update and count..

Danny76 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
As above.

But also no.
Anything last chance to buy has never come back as far as I know.
When things were being rebased they just went Temp out of stock.

Not necessarily. If they were Direct Only items(which would mean they get sent in white boxes) then yes they just went temporarily out of stock.
Items that were in store at the time went "No Longer Available" and then were repackaged into a fresh packaging set.

But No Longer Available and Temporarily Out Of Stock are both not the Last Chance To Buy Status.
I’m talking Last Chance. Nothing that went that has ever come back. Right?

Technically, some LCtB items have returned, very, very briefly, as Made to Order items, but no, no LCtB item I’m aware of has ever returned to regular stock.
Some of them have, however, been replaced by similar (or nearly identical) items later, for example the Forge World Thunderhawk.

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
I feel sorry for people who use Dragon Princes as a proxy for Blood Knights and missed getting them though.

That was the first thing a friend of mine said: "How will people field Blood Knights now?"

Danny76 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
As above.

But also no.
Anything last chance to buy has never come back as far as I know.
When things were being rebased they just went Temp out of stock.

Not necessarily. If they were Direct Only items(which would mean they get sent in white boxes) then yes they just went temporarily out of stock.
Items that were in store at the time went "No Longer Available" and then were repackaged into a fresh packaging set.

But No Longer Available and Temporarily Out Of Stock are both not the Last Chance To Buy Status.
I’m talking Last Chance. Nothing that went that has ever come back. Right?

No, but you didn't actually say that in your post. You said that "when things were being rebased they just went temp out of stock". That's not true. If it was a case of something that was Direct Only(which didn't have SKUs on the boxes but rather the boxes are plain white with a barcode slapped on as needed), it would go temporarily out of stock---while if it was something stocked in shops, it went "No Longer Available" as it became a new SKU.

Commodus Leitdorf wrote:I feel sorry for people who use Dragon Princes as a proxy for Blood Knights and missed getting them though.

Personally, I'd use the Morgul Knights from the LOTR range. They're a bit smaller than some stuff is, but damn they look good:


Also, 6 for 35 with variable parts ain't too bad.