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**Earth127**

New kit.

**streetsamurai**

Galas wrote:
Irbis wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
HorticulusDK wrote:
So Morathi is the same price as Alarielle ? Well okay. She seemed a bit smaller though.

Anyway, on the fluff side of things, I really love the fact that Khaine IS dead (he was too tied to the old WFB pantheon), and that's in fact Morathi the subject of worship in the cult !

As far as I can tell, the cult members still pray to Khaine, Morathi just steals the juice, which is a very Morathi thing to do.

Yeah, but after watching the Phil Kelly video the whole thing bothers me. Why? What's the point? Why she simply doesn't build her own religion, like the other 5 elven gods, but lies and pretends Khaine still exists? It makes no sense considering A) how vain she is, which should make her demand worship directly, not by proxy, B ) the fact that in AoS gods walk the land and talk freely to worshipers, which really should make someone question why Khaine doesn't do the same, C) the fact order pantheon is under siege and needs all the allies they can get, which should lead Sigmar, Tyrion, and the rest of the band wonder where this supposed god is and ask how they might contact him to inquire if he won't help.

The whole affair sounds like OotS Nale's 'needlessly complicated' shtick, as it gives Morathi nothing, except maybe deniability (from who/what, though?), but risks exploding in her face all the time if the zealots and fanatics of fake god under her ever learn the whole thing was a scam and decided to do something about it...

Because Morathi is NOT a God. She wants to become one, I don't know exactly whats makes you a God instead of a very powerfull and magical individual but she is not one. And about the B) point, Khaine is a dead God, thats why his worshippers want to revive him, and nobody expect him to manifest himself. And by the lore we have now, it could actually happen, for Khaine to resurrect, but as long as Morathi has his heart and uses his to empowerll herself, thats isn't gonna happen.

Now, we can ask, how exactly do the people of Age of Sigmar even know who Khaine is? I don't know. Why didn't Morathi started a cult around his own figure? Maybe because as she isn't a God people wouldn't follow her.

That's what bothers me about the whole story. And why would people not follow her? Shes seems to be as strong as Alarielle, who is a god herself. Maybe it's better explained in the book, but right now, it seems a bit needlesly complicated

**Captain Joystick**

EnTyme wrote:
@Captain Joystick The article states she has 6 wounds in Oracle form.

And so, once again, I wonder how they'll implement her wounds carrying over when she transforms. Because they seem to suggest some people will opt to transform her right away to guarantee she'll survive at least four turns, but if her wounds carry over flat 1 for 1, you'll get that same guarantee by waiting until she takes damage.

**EnTyme**

Hanskrampf wrote:
EnTyme wrote:
@Hulksmash I always interpret "turn" to be "game turn" unless it specifically states "player turn." Could definitely use an FAQ on that one. I may send it to the FAQ email. I'm also interested in seeing if the "reactive" change occurs immediately after taking damage (so potentially in your opponent's turn) or in your next hero phase following the damage.

Doesn't need a FAQ.

Warhammer: Age of Sigmar is played in a
series of battle rounds, each of which is split
into two turns – one for each player.

It's right in the core rules.

I stand corrected.

Captain Joystick wrote:
EnTyme wrote:
@Captain Joystick The article states she has 6 wounds in Oracle form.

And so, once again, I wonder how they'll implement her wounds carrying over when she transforms. Because they seem to suggest some people will opt to transform her right away to guarantee she'll survive at least four turns, but if her wounds carry over flat 1 for 1, you'll get that same guarantee by waiting until she takes damage.

If it's your standard "replace model with X" wording, she would have her full wounds back.

**Earth127**

Well Morathi pulling a big con isn't new.

So this time she basicly created a race of her own witch elves (funny considering Hellebron and the Khainites were her rivals in the old WFB) to cheat out of a god?

Talk about having a cake and eating it too.

**NinthMusketeer**

I'm amused that they mention how her shooting attack is useful for picking off standard bearers and the like when RAW all models in the unit (even the champion) can be both musicians and standard bearers and don't even have to be modelled as such.

**EnTyme**

That depends on whether or not your group enforces WYSIWYG. It's not really a rules issue IMO.

**Lord Kragan**

I'm personally baffled people keep asking the question. The knife ears are possibly, rigth behind skaven, the race that suffered less loses during the aftermath of the end times because everyone that died either got chained to Mallus or got eaten by slaanesh... and then recovered by the new gods. As it is, there is clearly a HIGH percentage of Aelfs that must still remember about Khaine and be rightfully wary of Morathi presenting herself as a new goddess. The other three cases are less of a gray area because two are realm gods proper and the other seems to be fulfilling a satellite function to one of the former.

**Galas**

Lord Kragan wrote:
I'm personally baffled people keep asking the question. The knife ears are possibly, rigth behind skaven, the race that suffered less loses during the aftermath of the end times because everyone that died either got chained to Mallus or got eaten by slaanesh... and then recovered by the new gods. As it is, there is clearly a HIGH percentage of Aelfs that must still remember about Khaine and be rightfully wary of Morathi presenting herself as a new goddess. The other three cases are less of a gray area because two are realm gods proper and the other seems to be fulfilling a satellite function to one of the former.

They did that to nearly everybody, dwarfs, humans, etc... their souls were used to reincarnate them in the mortal realms. But do they remember about the World that was? I think only beings like the Gods remember it, and even then their memories where muddy.

**Mr_Rose**

Earth127 wrote:
Well Morathi pulling a big con isn't new.

So this time she basicly created a race of her own witch elves (funny considering Hellebron and the Khainites were her rivals in the old WFB) to cheat out of a god?

Talk about having a cake and eating it too.

Hellebron was her rival. The Witch Elves in general were originally Morathi’s creation, usurped by Hellebron, and she still favoured them politically where that was relevant. Otherwise Malekith could doubtless have been persuaded to eliminate them because basically no-one else wanted them around. Anyway, I’m not that surprised she went back to basics, only this time with blackjack and snake-aelf archers, myself.

**Lord Kragan**

Galas wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
I'm personally baffled people keep asking the question. The knife ears are possibly, rigth behind skaven, the race that suffered less loses during the aftermath of the end times because everyone that died either got chained to Mallus or got eaten by slaanesh... and then recovered by the new gods. As it is, there is clearly a HIGH percentage of Aelfs that must still remember about Khaine and be rightfully wary of Morathi presenting herself as a new goddess. The other three cases are less of a gray area because two are realm gods proper and the other seems to be fulfilling a satellite function to one of the former.

They did that to nearly everybody, dwarfs, humans, etc... their souls were used to reincarnate them in the mortal realms. But do they remember about the World that was? I think only beings like the Gods remember it, and even then their memories where muddy.

Dwarfs and humans do not remember the world that was because... well most of them (bar grombindal and some crazy ass outliers) are dead by now. But this isn't something that affects elves/aelfs because they are technically inmortal.

**Galas**

But they died in the end times. And were eaten by Slaanesh, their souls then freed by Tyrion & co. and then reincarnated. Whay I'm asking is, do they remember their past lives after being reincarnated?

Wasn't that what happened with Humans, Dwarfs, etc... too? The Gods used their souls to reincarnate them in the Mortal Realms.

And are Elves inmortal to old age? I don't remember Warhammer Elf/Eldar being inmortal to old age.

(I'll add that my knowledge in the AoS lore is faar from perfect or complete so I can be totally wrong about this)

**BorderCountess**

Galas wrote:
But they died in the end times. And were eaten by Slaanesh, their souls then freed by Tyrion & co. and then reincarnated. Whay I'm asking is, do they remember their past lives after being reincarnated?

Wasn't that what happened with Humans, Dwarfs, etc... too? The Gods used their souls to reincarnate them in the Mortal Realms.

And are Elves inmortal to old age? I don't remember Warhammer Elf/Eldar being inmortal to old age.

(I'll add that my knowledge in the AoS lore is faar from perfect or complete so I can be totally wrong about this)

Bear in mind that quite a number of elves were still alive after Slaanesh went into his food coma. He ate a bunch of souls when Teclis unbound the Great Vortex, then drifted off to sleep. Also, the destruction of the World that Was wasn't necessarily fatal. Getting pulled into the Realm of Chaos doesn't quite equal dead. The odds aren't good, but it's survivable. Heck, at this point it might be quicker to start naming off characters that DIDN'T survive that mess.

**NinthMusketeer**

Not sure I'd go that far, there were a lot of special characters across the army books.

Anyways, on the whole Khaine thing to me there seems to be a clear political advantage as other gods would almost certainly keep a much closer eye on Morathi if she was blatantly having herself worshipped as a god. Making herself as a servant of another power instantly makes her seem less powerful/threatening.

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EnTyme wrote:
That depends on whether or not your group enforces WYSIWYG. It's not really a rules issue IMO.

Still doesn't change that they are commenting on a use that, by the rules, isn't useful.

**BorderCountess**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Not sure I'd go that far, there were a lot of special characters across the army books.

Anyways, on the whole Khaine thing to me there seems to be a clear political advantage as other gods would almost certainly keep a much closer eye on Morathi if she was blatantly having herself worshipped as a god. Making herself as a servant of another power instantly makes her seem less powerful/threatening.

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EnTyme wrote:
That depends on whether or not your group enforces WYSIWYG. It's not really a rules issue IMO.
Still doesn't change that they are commenting on a use that, by the rules, isn't useful.

How about picking off special weapons in units? Grundstok Thunderers come to mind.

**ZebioLizard2**

Galas wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
I'm personally baffled people keep asking the question. The knife ears are possibly, rigth behind skaven, the race that suffered less loses during the aftermath of the end times because everyone that died either got chained to Mallus or got eaten by slaanesh... and then recovered by the new gods. As it is, there is clearly a HIGH percentage of Aelfs that must still remember about Khaine and be rightfully wary of Morathi presenting herself as a new goddess. The other three cases are less of a gray area because two are realm gods proper and the other seems to be fulfilling a satellite function to one of the former.

They did that to nearly everybody, dwarfs, humans, etc... their souls were used to reincarnate them in the mortal realms. But do they remember about the World that was? I think only beings like the Gods remember it, and even then their memories where muddy.

The Mortarchs remember. Except for Arkhan, who is noted in the novels to actually not be able to remember the world that was, which makes one think he may actually just have been replicated by Nagash to serve him once more rather then fully brought over.

**NinthMusketeer**

Manfred von Drakken wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
Not sure I'd go that far, there were a lot of special characters across the army books.

Anyways, on the whole Khaine thing to me there seems to be a clear political advantage as other gods would almost certainly keep a much closer eye on Morathi if she was blatantly having herself worshipped as a god. Making herself as a servant of another power instantly makes her seem less powerful/threatening.

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EnTyme wrote:
That depends on whether or not your group enforces WYSIWYG. It's not really a rules issue IMO.
Still doesn't change that they are commenting on a use that, by the rules, isn't useful.

How about picking off special weapons in units? Grundstok Thunderers come to mind.

Oh don't get me wrong it is totally useful, as well as in the vast majority of cases where people are reasonable and have only one music/standard in the unit. I'm just mildly amused by the statement given the RAW context.

**Mr Morden**

Galas wrote:
But they died in the end times. And were eaten by Slaanesh, their souls then freed by Tyrion & co. and then reincarnated. Whay I'm asking is, do they remember their past lives after being reincarnated?

Wasn't that what happened with Humans, Dwarfs, etc... too? The Gods used their souls to reincarnate them in the Mortal Realms.

And are Elves inmortal to old age? I don't remember Warhammer Elf/Eldar being inmortal to old age.

(I'll add that my knowledge in the AoS lore is faar from perfect or complete so I can be totally wrong about this)

Its seems to vary there are some who seem to have awoken in the new worlds - mainly the Gods - Sigmar, Grungni etc, some who may be replica's or are the originals reborn - Mortarchs, some are descendants of those who escaped the World that Was.

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Jorik_Grunndrak for instance

An old clan, ours. Venerable even when the world was young. We dug our way out of one world and into another, ahead of an all-consuming fire, or so the story goes. We left a lake enclosed by mountains, and came to new waters and new mountains. Formed a new clan from the ruins of the old

The novel Spear of Shadows talks a bit about this as does the Author on his blog pages - in the former, Grungni talks about his brothers and sisters and if in fact any of what they are experiencing is even real.

**Ghaz**

Faction Focus part 3 - The Melusai

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/21/daughters-of-khaine-preview-part-3-the-melusaigw-homepage-post-3/

**Boss Salvage**

Sweet hell's teeth, that's a nice kit. And they're totally on round bases, aren't they? Mmm, so many possibilities.

EDIT: Foot hag with them is looking great too, dunno if she's a new sculpt or just fresh paint on a Cauldron chick or something. Guessing new (and assuming it's been covered).

- Salvage

**VictorVonTzeentch**

More and more Im thinking I need Snake-Elves in my life...

**TheDraconicLord**

YEEEES! Not only are they beautiful, I'm finally getting Mortal Wounds! Bloody Ironjawz and their complete lack of MW, this is gonna feel so damn good <3

**Inquisitor Gideon**

The Hag is from the Cauldron. I do wonder if these are going to come in boxes of 5, as they seem to be always shown in units of 5.

Edit: As an aside I notice last night the witch aelves have gone to sold out (but not the cauldron curiously), so reboxing must be happening right now.

**str00dles1**

Im sure it will be the standard 5 for 50$

they look good though

**mmzero252**

I was under the impression I liked Skaven..but apparently I was just wrong and need DoK

**Requizen**

So the Bows seem to be softer Skyfires, only 1 damage instead of D3. Depending on the speed and range, could still be quite powerful.

**Adam Spielmann**

TheDraconicLord wrote:
YEEEES! Not only are they beautiful, I'm finally getting Mortal Wounds! Bloody Ironjawz and their complete lack of MW, this is gonna feel so damn good <3

DoKs are one of the armies of Order with the highest potential for Mortal Wounds. Medusas are scary on that regards.

I think they're going to ba scary with Morathi making them shoot twice. I can imagine them shooting twice at 18-24 inches. So yeah, it's going to be scary.

**Azreal13**

I still have zero interest in AOS, but there's some modeling projects for my Emperor's Children that have just had some interesting options open up for them...

**mmzero252**

Azreal13 wrote:
I still have zero interest in AOS, but there's some modeling projects for my Emperor's Children that have just had some interesting options open up for them...

I've grown VERY much the same opinion on AoS. Everyone in my local area seems to have moved over to it and I find it's lack of anything resembling balance too jarring. I went and converted a ton of my Skaven over into Death Guard to play them in 40k...now I may have to find something in 40k for these girls and snakes. Slaanesh isn't a bad idea though.

**GoatboyBeta**

I wonder if these galls and there winged sisters will have an optional hero build or two to lead your force. Or will the daughters main source of (non Morathi) generals still be the Cauldron of blood?