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 Irbis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
You seemingly haven't paid much attention to 40k then!

They literally created a whole new entry of Ogryn just to make this idea work for anyone who wanted Nork Deddog(Ogryn of both flavors are taken in groups of 3--Nork can only be built out of the box of 3. Building Nork means you have two Ogryn leftover).
They gave Genestealers a new rule related to a little gribbly scenery piece that's been on their sprue for god knows how long.

It doesn't count, though, the bodyguard still has only options the sprue comes with, and the customization is largely cosmetic. Ditto for GK GM in kid carrier. Both are nice options to have, but are essentially same as SM lieutenant/captain, kitbashes using existing stuff with limited options, sometimes absurdly so, like in the case of Primaris characters.

The DoK, though, not only lost rigid only possible way of arming them, but say the cavalry crossbows are option that didn't existed at all before, being weapon lifted from what in AoS is entirely different army (yeah, I still find it funny it's now dual-army, single-unit kit). It's like tactical squad suddenly gained Deathwatch-like wargear freedom, much bigger deal than what you suggest, IMO.

Wait... are you complaining about having MORE options?

What they did with DoK is comparable with what they did with Tyranids, giving options to bits in the sprue that before didn't had them. Or that wheren't availible for that specific unit build.

 Galas wrote:
What they did with DoK is comparable with what they did with Tyranids, giving options to bits in the sprue that before didn't had them. Or that wheren't availible for that specific unit build.

Aye and it makes good sense too.
GW has done a great job of generally cleaning up the divide between rules and models. Stripping out choices that weren't in the box and viably adding in choices/options or just new weapons to units which are on the sprue. It's good for everyone involved, esp new gamers or those who are not into converting or who might not have a huge collection of spare parts to convert with (oft the case for people newer to the hobby - when a lot of conversions are typically very expensive to achieve because they require a lot of little parts form full kits and ebay often runs out of popular parts fast).



Also in a fantasy setting something as "simple" as a spear or crossbow or bow and arrow isn't really a technology that is faction specific. Also considering that allies of the Daughters and their own race (dark elves) basically have those crossbows, its no feat to imagine that such technology and weapons get traded around pretty often.




The only risk to Sigmar at present is how GW is introducing a LOT of new armies/factions into the game. Many full armies are splitting up - 3 or 4 armies from a single one in the past means that, whilst there are allies, any "pure" army might well go a long time now without upgraded models. Still so long as typical allies retain similar appearances they can always mash them back together later (with the only downside being that you might not need as many models of a specific type if armies are combined up and thus have more choices to pick from)

I really want my Wild Riders to get their shields back.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Wait... are you complaining about having MORE options?

Complaining where?

The fact I called recent GW limitation ideas 'absurd' might be a hint what I think about it.

That's why I asked. I was genuinely confused (happens easily in my old age).

New MP story ! https://malignportents.com/story/lost-souls/

Nice and short.

I really like how the stories thematically follow the general Battletomes release schedule (Maggotkin, Legions of Nagash, DoK, ...)

And as the Dread Solstice dawns : the Red mists https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/01/dread-solstice-week-2-results-red-mistfw-homepage-post-1/

I am goimg drake this time.

Really enjoying these stories and background - I wonder if they will ever do the same style of campaign for 40k.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Really enjoying these stories and background - I wonder if they will ever do the same style of campaign for 40k.

It certainly avoids the issue of "Too many order/Imperium beating out the rest"

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Really enjoying these stories and background - I wonder if they will ever do the same style of campaign for 40k.

It certainly avoids the issue of "Too many order/Imperium beating out the rest"

Yeah, if GW finds the format to be popular we're bound to see it in 40k. They certainly seem determined to offer more campaigns/community participation in the future. This is hardly the worst format they could choose.

 Geifer wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Really enjoying these stories and background - I wonder if they will ever do the same style of campaign for 40k.

It certainly avoids the issue of "Too many order/Imperium beating out the rest"

Yeah, if GW finds the format to be popular we're bound to see it in 40k. They certainly seem determined to offer more campaigns/community participation in the future. This is hardly the worst format they could choose.

I suspect this campaign system will be used in the 40k campaign next year. keeps it from being a popularity contest and it allows GW some breathing room in the narrative.

Or in the summer.

 shinros wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Really enjoying these stories and background - I wonder if they will ever do the same style of campaign for 40k.

It certainly avoids the issue of "Too many order/Imperium beating out the rest"

Yeah, if GW finds the format to be popular we're bound to see it in 40k. They certainly seem determined to offer more campaigns/community participation in the future. This is hardly the worst format they could choose.

I suspect this campaign system will be used in the 40k campaign next year. keeps it from being a popularity contest and it allows GW some breathing room in the narrative.

It's a great idea IMO. I will be very interested to see how they apply it to 40k, if they do.

The aos open day tomorrow has been postponed due to snow. The shadespire grand clash is still happening. That means there will probably be no Deepkin news this weekend.

The aos open day tomorrow has been postponed due to snow. The shadespire grand clash is still happening. That means there will probably be no Deepkin news this weekend.

In a comment, WW respond that the community team might still give us something this week-end. I guess that even if they can't show us the miniatures at the event, theire is already articles prepared and the don't want to postpone the annoncement of the new big AoS realease.

GunSmith wrote:

The aos open day tomorrow has been postponed due to snow. The shadespire grand clash is still happening. That means there will probably be no Deepkin news this weekend.

In a comment, WW respond that the community team might still give us something this week-end. I guess that even if they can't show us the miniatures at the event, theire is already articles prepared and the don't want to postpone the annoncement of the new big AoS realease.

Man I hope it's true. So sad about the OD, so excited about the Idoneth Deepkin !

Btw the last MP story is one of the best of the series so far ; Morathi talks politics with Hammerhal's Grand Conclave : https://malignportents.com/story/cause-celebre/

Yeah, really hope we still get to see them this weekend. After all, we see the Open Day stuff online now before anything else so it wouldn't make a lot of sense to withhold the online reveal.

They could shift their schedules, move Monday's posts to the weekend and the weekend posts to next week.

But I too really hope to see some fish.

Seeing how close they seem to be coming after Morathi that has set my hopes really high, they'll probably look awesome.

If we get some Kraken centerpiece...... It would be most glorious.

I'd rather see something more unique - a mighty sea dragon; a huge leviathan beast or such. Kraken are great, but also somewhat over-done with sea based beasties and they always seem a bit wrong to me when they are brought on land. At sea they'd be fantastic throw loads of Kraken into a Man O War game; but for land I'd rather see something different come into the shores to do battle.

Meh, I just want to see some newly sculpt non-mutated Elf running on 2 legs.

Wait, wait, wait. Krakens are overdone and not unique, but... (Sea) dragons aren't? What?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. Krakens are overdone and not unique, but... (Sea) dragons aren't? What?

That one made me chuckle, too.

Well we have Octopuses that come onto dry land in the real world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFzpC_e44Tg. So having them in the high fantasy of AoS wouldn't be to much of a stretch IMO(and one of the recent rumour engine pics did look a bit like and Octopuses "ear"). Fingers crossed we wont have to wait much longer before we find out where GW are going with the Deepkin.

So what you're saying is, we might get a Giant Enemy Crab unit?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. Krakens are overdone and not unique, but... (Sea) dragons aren't? What?

Exactly! Sea dragons are a rarity next to krakens

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So what you're saying is, we might get a Giant Enemy Crab unit?

Gods, I hope not, I don't want an unit with a weak point that can be hit for massive damage.

If they released an Giant Enemy Crab with god like stats, but it had a rule where if you roll at least 6 sixes to wound against it consecutively it takes 3 times as much damage, I might actually get into AoS.
Because that is my sort of stupid bs.