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2018/01/23 22:02:11
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ute nation
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LOL, It's totally not happening but I'd love if it were true.
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Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon. |
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2018/01/23 22:21:45
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Arachnofiend wrote:Hmm, it's been pointed out that the AdMech codex's timeline actually has a LOT of Necron activity detailed within; apparently the Necrons are trying to resecure deposits of the material that the Cadian pylons are made of in an effort to contain the Chaos threat, which is a problem for the Mechanicum because many of the Forge Worlds were built on deposits of the stuff. Compared to, say, the timeline in the Space Marines codex, Necrons are only mentioned once.
I want to belieeeeve
I don't. New models might be interesting, but I've heard this song before and it's not one I care to hear again - GW have a history of making the AdMech look like chumps when Necrons or C'tan are involved.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2018/01/23 22:09:42
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Yodhrin wrote: Arachnofiend wrote:Hmm, it's been pointed out that the AdMech codex's timeline actually has a LOT of Necron activity detailed within; apparently the Necrons are trying to resecure deposits of the material that the Cadian pylons are made of in an effort to contain the Chaos threat, which is a problem for the Mechanicum because many of the Forge Worlds were built on deposits of the stuff. Compared to, say, the timeline in the Space Marines codex, Necrons are only mentioned once.
I want to belieeeeve
I don't. New models might be interesting, but I've heard this song before and it's not one I care to hear again - GW have a history of making the AdMech look like chumps when Necrons or C'tan are involved.
That's because they are, the admech more or less worship a c'tan in some respects. Beyond that it's stagnated technology that barely works without a prayer vs galaxy conquering technology that's tried and tested.
Don't get me wrong they can tear chunks out of one another fluff wise but if a tomb world wanted a forgeworld gone, they'd be the ones to do it.
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2018/01/23 22:46:40
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The admech couldn't stop three necron ships from landing on Mars, one of the most fortified planets in the IoM. Of course as with all 40k power comparisons, it depends on who has plot armor at the moment. But one thing we can say for certain is The ad mech is absoluetly ameatuer hour compared with the necrons when it comes to technology.
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2018/01/23 22:50:01
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Yodhrin wrote: Arachnofiend wrote:Hmm, it's been pointed out that the AdMech codex's timeline actually has a LOT of Necron activity detailed within; apparently the Necrons are trying to resecure deposits of the material that the Cadian pylons are made of in an effort to contain the Chaos threat, which is a problem for the Mechanicum because many of the Forge Worlds were built on deposits of the stuff. Compared to, say, the timeline in the Space Marines codex, Necrons are only mentioned once.
I want to belieeeeve
I don't. New models might be interesting, but I've heard this song before and it's not one I care to hear again - GW have a history of making the AdMech look like chumps when Necrons or C'tan are involved.
I mean, I'm an ex-Necron player looking for an excuse to get back into the army (which is going to be harder with how good the Thousand Sons codex looks...).
But to drum up a little excitement on the AdMech side, I have two words for you: Skitarii Prime.
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2018/01/24 01:41:51
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Dudeface wrote: Yodhrin wrote: Arachnofiend wrote:Hmm, it's been pointed out that the AdMech codex's timeline actually has a LOT of Necron activity detailed within; apparently the Necrons are trying to resecure deposits of the material that the Cadian pylons are made of in an effort to contain the Chaos threat, which is a problem for the Mechanicum because many of the Forge Worlds were built on deposits of the stuff. Compared to, say, the timeline in the Space Marines codex, Necrons are only mentioned once.
I want to belieeeeve
I don't. New models might be interesting, but I've heard this song before and it's not one I care to hear again - GW have a history of making the AdMech look like chumps when Necrons or C'tan are involved.
That's because they are, the admech more or less worship a c'tan in some respects. Beyond that it's stagnated technology that barely works without a prayer vs galaxy conquering technology that's tried and tested.
And that garbage is exactly what I'm on about - Graham McNeill has a lot to answer for with the pish he came up with for Mechanicum. The AdMech existed long before either Dread Cthulu Robotmen or Ripoff Egyptian Robotmen, and their story was far superior before any Necron nonsense was involved; doing so robs them of all agency, and so robs their story of all meaning. As they were before(and still are as far as I'm concerned - the one good thing about the Mat Ward Tomb Kings Iiiin Spaaaaace! rewrite was that it allows Mechanicum's rubbish to be read in a way that nullifies the original intent of it) the Mechanicus were an appropriately grimdark Transhumanist cautionary tale, an example of how human nature and extreme circumstances can just as easily turn technology to dystopia as utopia. The Dragon vs Goldenboy BS completely and fatally undermines all that because without agency, without choice, the genesis and eventual end state of the Mechanicus doesn't say anything about humanity at all, it's merely another bit of Just As Planned hyping to try and make the Emperor look like a brain-genius despite all his obvious and catastrophic mistakes.
More than that though - AdMech aren't just part of the backstory any more, they're a faction of their own; what other faction in the game is presented as a complete, objective stooge for another? I'm not talking about Codex fluff presenting each given army as being the bestest and most awesomest ever, what other faction basically has "and everything they believe and ever did believe and everything their whole society is based on is a total lie and really they're just budget-brand [Other Faction]" tacked on at the end of all their lore? How would Necron players like it if GW put out a novel that pulled some ACKSHOOALEE nonsense whereby Necrons have really been Chaos Androids all along like the original iteration of the models, and their favoured faction has been played like a fiddle by another one since the beginning? The whole festering carbuncle is a relic of an era of background writing - one where they desperately wanted to make people accept the new faction was Really Important and so inserted the C'tan into everyone else's history as much as possible - that GW have stated they supposedly wanted to get away from.
I just hope they meant it.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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0009/01/24 01:47:12
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yodhrin wrote:
More than that though - AdMech aren't just part of the backstory any more, they're a faction of their own; what other faction in the game is presented as a complete, objective stooge for another? I'm not talking about Codex fluff presenting each given army as being the bestest and most awesomest ever, what other faction basically has "and everything they believe and ever did believe and everything their whole society is based on is a total lie and really they're just budget-brand [Other Faction]" tacked on at the end of all their lore?
Genstealer Cults?
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2018/01/24 01:47:43
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Yodhrin wrote:
More than that though - AdMech aren't just part of the backstory any more, they're a faction of their own; what other faction in the game is presented as a complete, objective stooge for another? I'm not talking about Codex fluff presenting each given army as being the bestest and most awesomest ever, what other faction basically has "and everything they believe and ever did believe and everything their whole society is based on is a total lie and really they're just budget-brand [Other Faction]" tacked on at the end of all their lore?
Tau. With Eldar, basically.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2018/01/24 02:00:24
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yodhrin wrote:More than that though - AdMech aren't just part of the backstory any more, they're a faction of their own; what other faction in the game is presented as a complete, objective stooge for another? I'm not talking about Codex fluff presenting each given army as being the bestest and most awesomest ever, what other faction basically has "and everything they believe and ever did believe and everything their whole society is based on is a total lie and really they're just budget-brand [Other Faction]" tacked on at the end of all their lore?
Sisters of Battle? Budget Space Marines, believing a lie invented by bigger Space Marine (Lorgar)?
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0039/01/24 02:08:50
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Irbis wrote: Yodhrin wrote:More than that though - AdMech aren't just part of the backstory any more, they're a faction of their own; what other faction in the game is presented as a complete, objective stooge for another? I'm not talking about Codex fluff presenting each given army as being the bestest and most awesomest ever, what other faction basically has "and everything they believe and ever did believe and everything their whole society is based on is a total lie and really they're just budget-brand [Other Faction]" tacked on at the end of all their lore?
Sisters of Battle? Budget Space Marines, believing a lie invented by bigger Space Marine (Lorgar)?
Space Marines themselves arguably. In fact I'd say "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS A LIE" is one of the biggest constants of 40k
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2018/01/24 02:09:52
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Now I'll say that Yodhrin has a very valid point and I actually agree with him.
But at the same time I'm one of the guys that prefers Newcrons over Oldcrons. Yeah Tomb Kings in space are very cool and leave space to actually make Necrons "Your dudes" and give them character.
Even Tyranids had more personalization than oldcrons. But this is offtopic!
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2018/01/24 02:21:02
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Aren't there a couple unsolved rumor engine pics that look AdMech?
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2018/01/24 02:23:02
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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There's really just one but even then it could be something scenery related.
Verviedi's been slacking a bit in updating the Rumor Engine thread.
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2018/01/24 06:49:14
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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The Horus Heresy books also made it so the Heresy is the reason the Tyranids came to our galaxy, so GW doesn't always know when to leave well enough alone, creating uninteresting and uninspired comic-book levels of "everything's connected" nonsense. So it is any wonder they wanted to tie all AdMech stuff to the C'Tan/Necrons at one stage, making "Everything is a LIE!" the standard for the AdMech as Yod said.
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2018/01/24 21:24:14
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ute nation
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Yodhrin wrote:
And that garbage is exactly what I'm on about - Graham McNeill has a lot to answer for with the pish he came up with for Mechanicum. The AdMech existed long before either Dread Cthulu Robotmen or Ripoff Egyptian Robotmen, and their story was far superior before any Necron nonsense was involved; doing so robs them of all agency, and so robs their story of all meaning. As they were before(and still are as far as I'm concerned - the one good thing about the Mat Ward Tomb Kings Iiiin Spaaaaace! rewrite was that it allows Mechanicum's rubbish to be read in a way that nullifies the original intent of it) the Mechanicus were an appropriately grimdark Transhumanist cautionary tale, an example of how human nature and extreme circumstances can just as easily turn technology to dystopia as utopia. The Dragon vs Goldenboy BS completely and fatally undermines all that because without agency, without choice, the genesis and eventual end state of the Mechanicus doesn't say anything about humanity at all, it's merely another bit of Just As Planned hyping to try and make the Emperor look like a brain-genius despite all his obvious and catastrophic mistakes.
More than that though - AdMech aren't just part of the backstory any more, they're a faction of their own; what other faction in the game is presented as a complete, objective stooge for another? I'm not talking about Codex fluff presenting each given army as being the bestest and most awesomest ever, what other faction basically has "and everything they believe and ever did believe and everything their whole society is based on is a total lie and really they're just budget-brand [Other Faction]" tacked on at the end of all their lore? How would Necron players like it if GW put out a novel that pulled some ACKSHOOALEE nonsense whereby Necrons have really been Chaos Androids all along like the original iteration of the models, and their favoured faction has been played like a fiddle by another one since the beginning? The whole festering carbuncle is a relic of an era of background writing - one where they desperately wanted to make people accept the new faction was Really Important and so inserted the C'tan into everyone else's history as much as possible - that GW have stated they supposedly wanted to get away from.
I just hope they meant it.
Man that's some salt, and some bs. There is a Necron warrior in the rogue trader book, they got their first model and rules in second ed ( WD 216), and became a major faction in third. When did ad mech get a codex, or anything beyond a cursory mention? The development of admech as a faction has mostly occurred after the necrons were introduced. So it's BS to portray yourself as some fluff purist wronged by faction overreach, when what you really want it to retcon the entire history of admech to meet your specific vision of them.
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2018/01/24 22:02:29
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Both Necrons and AdMech are younger than Orks ya puny gits!
Your arguing is kinda moot gents; both Necrons and AdMech represent the same thing (just one is ahead of the other in terms of their journey), that being the tragic over-reliance on technology and the disastrous consequences of such. AdMech are a few millennia from turning themselves in to Necron equivalents.
Also I would be incredibly surprised to see an AdMech vs Necrons box, particularly given the complete lack of any source for the rumour.
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2018/01/24 22:51:29
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Irked Necron Immortal
Sentient Void
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AdMech theoretical science based on a wing and a prayer is completely different from divine Necron living technology. Implying they are the same is racist.
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Paradigm for a happy relationship with Games Workshop: Burn the books and take the models to a different game. |
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2018/01/25 01:27:23
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Hello folks. Hope I'm posting in the right place, but I basically created an account to ask this question:
Given the list of codexes to expect in 2018, should I put all hopes for a full blown Inquisition/ Imerpial Agents codex off until 2019?
A furious search across google has yielded very little in terms of rumours....
Hopefully I can catch wind of something here.
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2018/01/25 02:03:10
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Smitetheheretic wrote:Hello folks. Hope I'm posting in the right place, but I basically created an account to ask this question:
Given the list of codexes to expect in 2018, should I put all hopes for a full blown Inquisition/ Imerpial Agents codex off until 2019?
A furious search across google has yielded very little in terms of rumours....
Hopefully I can catch wind of something here.
Even the more generous rumours only go as far as June. That still leaves half the year.
Doesn't mean it will happen, but there's no reason to give up hope either.
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2018/01/25 02:36:42
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Asmodai wrote:Smitetheheretic wrote:Hello folks. Hope I'm posting in the right place, but I basically created an account to ask this question:
Given the list of codexes to expect in 2018, should I put all hopes for a full blown Inquisition/ Imerpial Agents codex off until 2019?
A furious search across google has yielded very little in terms of rumours....
Hopefully I can catch wind of something here.
Even the more generous rumours only go as far as June. That still leaves half the year.
Doesn't mean it will happen, but there's no reason to give up hope either.
Bollocks.
Proceeding with Inquisition henchmen conversion project anyway. Call me a heretic, but I'll have 18 more acolytes of all shapes, sizes and sprues ready to rescue the Imperium from its blind decent into the dark pits of chaos.
Thank you for at least a half-year of solace.
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2018/01/26 04:43:17
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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according to BOLS at LVO they announced the next 3 codices, Dark Eldar, tau then necrons
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2018/01/26 04:49:07
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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BrianDavion wrote:according to BOLS at LVO they announced the next 3 codices, Dark Eldar, tau then necrons
Necrons and AdMech are both getting a new model (Necrons are getting a plastic cryptek and they don't say what AdMech are getting) which lends credence to the boxed set rumor.
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2018/01/26 04:50:16
Subject: Re:40k codex release schedule rumor
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Arachnofiend wrote:BrianDavion wrote:according to BOLS at LVO they announced the next 3 codices, Dark Eldar, tau then necrons
Necrons and AdMech are both getting a new model (Necrons are getting a plastic cryptek and they don't say what AdMech are getting) which lends credence to the boxed set rumor.
I hope we get more than just a plastic cyrptek!
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2018/01/26 04:55:53
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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2018/01/26 04:59:47
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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ImAGeek wrote:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/
Damn, that Cryptek is an awesome model. I hope we get a few more Necron Models....
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2018/01/26 05:00:55
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Sasori wrote: ImAGeek wrote:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/
Damn, that Cryptek is an awesome model. I hope we get a few more Necron Models....
Supposedly that's it. The book is purportedly going to make Necrons "far more mobile".
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2018/01/26 05:02:56
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Kanluwen wrote: Sasori wrote: ImAGeek wrote:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/
Damn, that Cryptek is an awesome model. I hope we get a few more Necron Models....
Supposedly that's it. The book is purportedly going to make Necrons "far more mobile".
They need a lot more than that, to be viable. So far all the Dexs have been good. I hope for a Tyranids esque one!
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2018/01/26 05:16:35
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Sasori wrote:Damn, that Cryptek is an awesome model. I hope we get a few more Necron Models....
You won't. It's like most of the Codex releases - the book, a token miniature, and done.
One does wonder what the new mini-Knight is meant to go with? AdMech got their book.
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2018/01/26 05:24:04
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Sasori wrote:Damn, that Cryptek is an awesome model. I hope we get a few more Necron Models....
You won't. It's like most of the Codex releases - the book, a token miniature, and done.
One does wonder what the new mini-Knight is meant to go with? AdMech got their book.
It'll be admech and have it's rules in the box, right?
Maybe it'll be a special release along side the rumored set of admech vs necrons.
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PourSpelur wrote:It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't. Hive Fleet Hercual - 6760pts
Hazaak Dynasty - 3400 pts
Seraphon - 4600pts
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2018/01/26 05:24:18
Subject: 40k codex release schedule rumor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Sasori wrote:Damn, that Cryptek is an awesome model. I hope we get a few more Necron Models....
You won't. It's like most of the Codex releases - the book, a token miniature, and done.
One does wonder what the new mini-Knight is meant to go with? AdMech got their book.
Maybe knights will get their own codex this edition, and they figured rather than having 3 or 4 models, you can have a couple big ones and a bunch of little ones.
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