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Ok, cool. That’s why I specified how it worked in DoT and said I wasn’t sure if it was the same way for MoN.

Hey, it’s slipped back a page now so I’ll ask again... any tips for running nurglings? Ive been meaning to try the little blighters out, but I have no idea what to actually do with them... I do however have 200 odd points left in my list so I could plop in 2x3 if they’re worthwhile...

The tips I would give are all in the first post

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The tips I would give are all in the first post

Cool, cheers. With 220 points left to spend, how does a (second) poxbringer and a unit of nurglings sound? I think what I’m asking is “is it worth using more than one unit of them”?

The rule of thumb I would use is don't go above one nurgling unit per 1000 pts, so no more than one for a 1k game, two for a 1.5k or 2k game, etc. As support models they are only as good as the rest of the army they are supporting.

Poxbringers are easier. Once you have the characters your list needs, any number of the remaining slots can be poxbringers. This is because unlike the average wizard they can fight pretty well and provide a support buff (healing) that 'stacks' very effectively. The big things to remember are that poxbringers shouldn't displace spots that would be taken by other characters the list needs, and they shouldn't be taking the list above 50% points spent on heroes.

Actually that’s really helpful ta. If I could bend your ear once more... this is the list I’m looking to complete:

Allegiance: Nurgle
Great Unclean One (340)
- General
- Trait: Pestilent Breath
- Artefact: The Endless Gift
- Lore of Virulence: Sumptuous Pestilence
Daemon Prince of Nurgle (160)
Poxbringer Herald of Nurgle (120)
- Lore of Virulence: Favoured Poxes
30 x Plaguebearers (320)
30 x Plaguebearers (320)
10 x Plaguebearers (120)
6 x Plague Drones (400)

Total: 1780 / 2000
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 129

I don’t really want to change anything that’s already there, but I do have 220 points left to spend. What would you say is the best use of them?

Your plan of Nurglings & another Poxbringer is a good fit. You could also do two units of nurglings, or a separate unit of drones. A unit of pusgoyles would also be a strong choice here. At any rate swap out the endless gift for witherstave. Witherstave is auto-take for Nurgle allegiance, and quite possibly the best artifact in the game.

Why doesnt anyone use the blightguard formation from chaos grand alliance book?

Its ilegal?

No longer legal :(

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
No longer legal :(

Ooppss :(

Can you expalin me why please?

Thanks.

I'm at adepticon nurgle bros!! Lots of nurgle here! I'm 3-0 with three major victories so far. 53/54 points! Hoping to keep doing well tomorrow for the final two games.

 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:
I'm at adepticon nurgle bros!! Lots of nurgle here! I'm 3-0 with three major victories so far. 53/54 points! Hoping to keep doing well tomorrow for the final two games.

Good luck!

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Your plan of Nurglings & another Poxbringer is a good fit. You could also do two units of nurglings, or a separate unit of drones. A unit of pusgoyles would also be a strong choice here. At any rate swap out the endless gift for witherstave. Witherstave is auto-take for Nurgle allegiance, and quite possibly the best artifact in the game.

Annoyingly you’re probably right about the Witherstave. I only say annoyingly because now I have to find some way to model it on my GUO!

MY ADEPTICON JOURNEY

https://t.co/raTR7J7mGZ <—- Final results

my list:

glotkin (general, blades of putrefaction)

chaos sorcerer lord (magnificent buboe) artifact: carrion dirge

plage preist with plage censer censer

gutrot spume

10 blightkings

5 blightkings

5 blightkings

28 marauders

14 chaos warriors

1990/2000

I used wither on the plague preist to cast it on my OWN UNITS to trigger the mortal wound kickback on 5+. It targets A UNIT and adds 1 to wound rolls. So not specifically an enemy unit.

30th/165 Battle points (solely based on gameplay)

38th/165 overall (60% gameplay, 20% paint score and 20% sportsmanship)

46/50 paint score

35/40 sportsmanship

Top 30 is a MAJOR accomplishment for me!!!!!!! That’s top 20% !

First game was against legion of azghor. My opponent was amazing. Sons of Slambo gaming group. So much fun. I was nervous as I didn’t know anything about them. Mission was starstrike. He had 2 magma cannons, 2 demon engines, 30 chaos dwarves (? Maybe some more) 6 bull centaurs, drazghoth (bull centaur general) and a wizard on a flaming flying bull (forget the name).

I targeted the 4 artillery pieces deployed together as a must kill. I ran the marauders up to susicide bomb/mortal wound bomb them. Either was fine with me. Gutrot came in off the edge near the artillery to engage the artillery using a squad of chaos dwarves as a “charge slingshot”. I listed the centaurs around a big terrain feature, Stalled then with the warriors and then hammered with glotkin when they were weak and debuffed. Major win 17/18. Missed 1/2 points on the teritiary objectives

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Second game was against a Nurgle demon army. Mission was three places of power. He ran a Great unclean one and rotigus, 30 plague bearers, 10 blade kings, six plague drones, and a unit of hell striders as allies, and rotbringer sorcerer with blades.

Once he found out the blades was moot against My plague touched war band, was a sad panda. No drone bomb. I was able to bottle him up in the middle by running the marauders and Warriors street at his unit of 30 plague bearers which were situated between two deadly terrain features. I targeted my own marauders with wither from the rat priest against a wall of plagueboys. He was so “scared” of this he chose not to attack for three turns while I just sat there slapping him for three turns. GUO was stuck behind them. Drones got bogged down with a unit of 5 kings, until they died and I fed him another unit of 5 kings. Glotkin and chaos sorcerer held objectives for a few turns. Major win 18/18

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Third game and last of the day was against another Nurgle army. Mission was knife to the heart. This was a mortal Nurgle army. GUO(bell and blade) rotigus, sorcerer with blades, sorcerer with blades, 40 marauders, 40 marauders, 40 marauders, 40 monks, 40 monks.

Great job! I'm glad you did well!

zamerion wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
No longer legal :(

Ooppss :(

Can you expalin me why please?

Thanks.

Please. I really need to know it

Oh it’s because the battalion requires a “Rotbringers Sorcerer”, but that no longer exists as he’s just called a “Sorcerer” now.

 Vomikron Noxis wrote:
Oh it’s because the battalion requires a “Rotbringers Sorcerer”, but that no longer exists as he’s just called a “Sorcerer” now.

A ok. Thanks!

But it has the keywords rotbriger and sorcerer in the keyword,

that doesnt count?

zamerion wrote:

 Vomikron Noxis wrote:
Oh it’s because the battalion requires a “Rotbringers Sorcerer”, but that no longer exists as he’s just called a “Sorcerer” now.

A ok. Thanks!

But it has the keywords rotbriger and sorcerer in the keyword,

that doesnt count?

No.
Sometimes you need KEYWORDS and sometimes you need Unit names.
The battalion requires a Rotbringer Sorcerer, meaning a unit with this name.

Sorry, I kept forgetting to check my grand alliance book. At any rate, yes, because it specifies the 'Rotbringer Sorcerer' warscroll and the warscroll with that exact name no longer exists it can't be taken. However I imagine in a casual setting people wouldn't have much problem with it. That said, I am of the opinion that Plaguetouched Warband was more desireably anyways.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I am of the opinion that Plaguetouched Warband was more desireably anyways.

I'm very doubtful :(
Plagueatouched is cheaper, and and more permissive. But to have all the effects, you need units with multiple of 7. So blightkings or chaos knights, are difficult (and expensive) to get it.

With blightguard you always get -1 to hit, not only in melee, and that rerolls of 1 to wound its very interesting.

Ok so day two I’m nervous. Add on top of that we played on the twitch stream!!

Played scorched earth against bloodhound. He had brass stampede, jugger-lord, slaughter priest x3, bloodsecrator, bloodstoker, 5 blood warriors, 10 reavers, 3x 3 skull crushers, 2 khorgoraths, 3 khorgoraths.

i made a couple crucial errors that my brilliant opponent both recognized and took advantage of. I took first turn which is out of character for me. I didn’t want to seize ground on this mission to fast hard charging army. So I rushed the maruaders yo..which he charged and murdered next turn. I double backed with the warriors to try to compensate, but needed them somewhere else and that’s the story of this game. My opponent out maneuvered me, and simply out played me. I was able to prevent him from burning my objectives with blocking him with clever positioning and gnarlmaws but lost on kill points. Glotkin died and that was a huge chunk of kill points. Straight up. Minor loss. Onl 4/18. It was a lot closer than the score appeared.

You can find the game on twitch if you like! Making it up to table two on a twitch stream at adepticon was awesome!

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Last game! Fire players on blood and glory. Ughhhh 100+ dwarves. I didn’t want to advance and let him tunnel up on my objectives. And then risk a double turn. So I let him go first. He tunneled up in front of me with auric heatheguard and vulkite berserkers. Between the double saves and the massive number of bodies I wasn’t able to control all four objectives. Glotkin got harpooned by a couple token arkanuaght company and the aurics. My mind was still on the last game to be honest. Ended up with another minor loss and 8/18.

I was very disappointed with my performance on the second day.. but feel blessed by the opportunity to be on twitch. Friends and family who had no real clue about warhammer watched. It was a thrill. I think if I put inspiring presence on the maruaders on the first turn instead of the double attacks when I wasn’t going to be able to charge things gonna LOT different. I think it bugs me the most because I didn’t recognize the choice to use IP. But I will learn from his and hopefully do better next time!

Thanks for those who read this far. Not trying to dominate the conversation here or be “me me me” just wanted to share a quick snynopisis of my games while it’s fresh in my mind from a Nurgle perspective. Thanks for your time!!!

Thanks for the synopsis!


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zamerion wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I am of the opinion that Plaguetouched Warband was more desireable anyways.

I'm very doubtful :(
Plagueatouched is cheaper, and and more permissive. But to have all the effects, you need units with multiple of 7. So blightkings or chaos knights, are difficult (and expensive) to get it.

With blightguard you always get -1 to hit, not only in melee, and that rerolls of 1 to wound its very interesting.

Blightguard is really nice, but the big thing I see is the permissibility. If you were going to run the exact loadout of units/characters in Blightguard and few/no other rotbringers then it would be better but losing out on putting Glottkin, Bloab, and chaff units is really a big hit. 35-man marauder units in particular will perform amazingly well for the cost. There's also the one-drop deployment that becomes possible with plaguetouched, and preventing a shooting opponent from getting turn two will do more for you that the hit penalty from blightguard would.

I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, as this is more of a "unsure how to get into AoS" type post, but Nurgle is the faction I am most interested in. I love the idea of being resilient, relatively low model count (or the option to be), and wearing my opponent down through attrition.

I've read your OP NinthMusketeer and I was wondering how you feel the faction is with the newer releases? The Nurgle thread of TGA seems to indicate Nurgle has a hard time keeping pace with the newer armies (mainly due to their offensive output).

I really like the Blightkings, plague monks, and pretty much all of the slaves to darkness units (marauders, warriors, knights). Can these have a spot in a competitive Nurgle force?

Not ninth (so not nearly as informed) but that TGA thread is a bit pesimistic. New battletomes attract new players. When they dont have instant success sometimes they hop on the internet to vent and rage sell the army. Laugh and carry on. Nurgle is a VERY strong army. Not broken, and not weak. It really is a great battletome. Id say pick a unit or model, or rule/ability and theme and build around it. You can mortal wound spam, you can go for a grindfest. you can do flying/fast cavalry. You can go horde, elite...really anything in this book.

plague monks probably wont have a spot in a grind fest you are looking for. They are a glass cannon. Slave to darkness units definetley do have a spot in that type of force. Chaos warriors can be intractable with a buff or two and some nurgle synergies.

 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:
Not ninth (so not nearly as informed) but that TGA thread is a bit pesimistic. New battletomes attract new players. When they dont have instant success sometimes they hop on the internet to vent and rage sell the army. Laugh and carry on. Nurgle is a VERY strong army. Not broken, and not weak. It really is a great battletome. Id say pick a unit or model, or rule/ability and theme and build around it. You can mortal wound spam, you can go for a grindfest. you can do flying/fast cavalry. You can go horde, elite...really anything in this book.

plague monks probably wont have a spot in a grind fest you are looking for. They are a glass cannon. Slave to darkness units definetley do have a spot in that type of force. Chaos warriors can be intractable with a buff or two and some nurgle synergies.

Pretty much this. Tbh I don't even read TGA, I've heard that there's a lot of discussion and a positive attitude towards the game but the assessments of what is good, what isn't, and proper tactics are commonly way off. A lot of confusing being a bad player with the unit being bad. Hearing that they think Nurgle is a weak army just has me shaking my head.

Thanks guys. I'm hoping to make a pretty low model count list to start, so Nurgle sounds perfect. I'm thinking a GUO and multiple units of blight kings to start.

GUO is best with plague drones, as his command ability only affects demons. If you want a General for your rotbringer army consider lord of blights of harbinger of decay!

TGA is a different world it seems.

Hey there everyone! So these tournaments are addicting! I signed up for the NOVA open AoS gt. Looking to build upon the moderate success at adepticon. Not looking to change the list Athat much, but I have a few tweaks in mind I would like any input on! Here is the list for convenience:

glotkin (general, blades of putrefaction)

chaos sorcerer lord (magnificent buboe) artifact: carrion dirge
plage preist with plage censer censer
gutrot spume

10 blightkings
5 blightkings
5 blightkings

28 marauders
14 chaos warriors

1990/2000

I liked the warriors. They were kind of the unit I could rely on. Mostly they kites, baited, used them to tie up anunit so I could focus on it later, speed bump to buy time to readjust..etc. I thought I would use them as an objective camper as well but I found them much more useful in other manners. But I feel like I could pack more potentcy. The maruaders were AWESOME! If they had fleshy abundance and rat priest cast wither on them..they were kicking back mortals on 5s. Sometimes the opponent refuses to attack them...can’t get better then that! Or if I got blades off..thats 60 attacks doing mortals on 6s...5s if they got the +1 to hit off. Blightkings did work and absorbed a butt load of damage. Great great as always.

The way I see it I have three options.

1. Keep list as is.
2. Take out warriors add 35 more marauders and another rat priest
3. Take out warriors, “downgrade” chaos sorcerer lord to a Sorc. Add 10 more blightkings OR 10 chaos knights.