Solo: A Star Wars Story - please use spoiler tags

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**Frazzled**

Galef wrote:
In think a lot of this is a change in the generation and how we view movies. Growing up, going to the movies was a treat. You couldn't stream them, and waiting for them to rent seemed to take forever. There was not Redbox or Netflix.
But now, kids have youtube and online gaming. Leaving the house is treated as a choir (at least if you ask my kids).

I still enjoy going to the movies. That excitement is so much a part of my being that no matter how "inconvenient" the experience becomes, I still want the experience. I want to give that experience to my boys, because it meant so much to me as a boy.

I have to say, the biggest disappointment for me is the constant complaining I see on the internet. I actually liked TLJ when I saw it. Sure it wasn't what I "wanted", but stories can be like that and it's ok. I didn't actual accept that is was a "bad movie" until reading over and over online. Yeah, it's bad. But Ep IX can still fix it.

Maybe I am just too optimistic and "choose" to enjoy the movie experience. I "choose" to like TLJ. Because it IS Star Wars. Nothing can change that. It's cannon, you have to accept it. So I choose to like it, with all it's flaws and missed opportunities.

I almost let the criticism and hate for TLJ make me miss out on Solo. I am glad I did not. I saw it opening weekend. I enjoyed it. Maybe it's good, maybe I am just "choosing" to like it.
But for those on the fence, if you want to hate SW because you are recently disappointed, seeing Solo isn't likely to change your mind. If, however, you are willing to give it a chance, you might be pleasantly surprised.

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Excellent points.
We view movies as dates when we go out, so we also go the whole hog and I am using looking at about $100. So it better be awesome, else we watch it at home.

**Manchu**

I am pretty confident you are not "choosing" to like Solo. Just looking at the structure and basic elements of the movie, all the necessary pieces are there - this can't be said about any other Disney SW movie. And while a movie can be competently assembled without being enjoyable, it really isn't the case with Solo. I went in 100% skeptical but the movie totally won me over.

**Future War Cultist**

I will never tire of the cinema.

**Galef**

Frazzled wrote:

Excellent points.
We view movies as dates when we go out, so we also go the whole hog and I am using looking at about $100. So it better be awesome, else we watch it at home.

Yeah, that's a big difference. We have a local movie theatre in a run down mall here in Dallas, TX that shows movies for only $4 if the time is prior to 4pm and only $6 after.
So for me, my wife and 2 boys, it's less than $30 (factoring in gas to drive there). So it isn't so much of an investment if the movie is crap.

The theatre is pretty clean too considering it's the only thing keeping this particular mall open (seriously parts of the mall are block off because everything else is closed)
It doesn't have all the fancy extras that theatres have now, but that makes it more like when I was growing up.
It's also not very well known, so it's only ever crowded on opening night

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**Mr Morden**

Future War Cultist wrote:
I will never tire of the cinema.

If I could execute evey person talking or unable to close their mouth when eating or rustling something I would enjoy it more.

I don't mid goig with friends but would rather watch stuff at home.

**Easy E**

Manchu wrote:
I am pretty confident you are not "choosing" to like Solo. Just looking at the structure and basic elements of the movie, all the necessary pieces are there - this can't be said about any other Disney SW movie. And while a movie can be competently assembled without being enjoyable, it really isn't the case with Solo. I went in 100% skeptical but the movie totally won me over.

Agreed. It is a very competently made and constructed film. In this day and age, that is a pretty high compliment since so many are not.

I enjoyed SOLO for what it was and really liked the lower stakes. Unlike TLJ or TFA, I felt it actually expanded the Star Wars universe a lot more.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Mr Morden wrote:
Future War Cultist wrote:
I will never tire of the cinema.

If I could execute evey person talking or unable to close their mouth when eating or rustling something I would enjoy it more.

I don't mid goig with friends but would rather watch stuff at home.

You would hate my friend who buys an extra large bag of popcorn at every movie and methodically annihilates it throughout the first hour. If you can't tune it out, or if you accidentally think about it, it's nauseating.

**Mr Morden**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Future War Cultist wrote:
I will never tire of the cinema.

If I could execute evey person talking or unable to close their mouth when eating or rustling something I would enjoy it more.

I don't mid goig with friends but would rather watch stuff at home.

You would hate my friend who buys an extra large bag of popcorn at every movie and methodically annihilates it throughout the first hour. If you can't tune it out, or if you accidentally think about it, it's nauseating.

Yep I would - I Really would.

**Galef**

That's one reason why I wait a few weeks to see a movie. For example, I haven't seen Incredibles 2 or Fallen Kingdom yet. I plan to see one or both next weekend. When I do, and to the theatre I go to, it is very likely we well be one of the only families there at all.
I've even seen movies as the only people in the theatre

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**BobtheInquisitor**

Mr Morden wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Future War Cultist wrote:
I will never tire of the cinema.

If I could execute evey person talking or unable to close their mouth when eating or rustling something I would enjoy it more.

I don't mid goig with friends but would rather watch stuff at home.

You would hate my friend who buys an extra large bag of popcorn at every movie and methodically annihilates it throughout the first hour. If you can't tune it out, or if you accidentally think about it, it's nauseating.

Yep I would - I Really would.

We only go to Star Wars movies with him these days.

**Earth127**

I'd go crazy. Iwent to see infinity war with my sister 2 weeks ago and we were with 7 people in the theatre. Nothing can destroy a movie as quickly as someone dissassembling it while your watching.

**Kilkrazy**

I hate watching stuff at home because of the constant stream of idiot questions and commentary from the two women in my life.

"Who's that bloke?"
"Why's he got a gun?"
"Why's he got a hat?"
"Isn't his hat stupid?"
"What's a Maltese Falcon anyway?"

Me: "Sigh..." "The film explains all these things, if you actually watch it! That's what it's for!"

At the cinema they have to shut up and actually watch the film.

**Frazzled**

Kilkrazy wrote:
I hate watching stuff at home because of the constant stream of idiot questions and commentary from the two women in my life.

"Who's that bloke?"
"Why's he got a gun?"
"Why's he got a hat?"
"Isn't his hat stupid?"
"What's a Maltese Falcon anyway?"

Me: "Sigh..." "The film explains all these things, if you actually watch it! That's what it's for!"

At the cinema they have to shut up and actually watch the film.

OMG you too?!?!

**Formosa**

Good news, looks like Kathleen Kennedy may be on the way out!

So happy about this, now maybe we can ditch the BS politics and get star wars back on track!

**Earth127**

I'll refer you to the latest TLJ thread.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
But TLDR: you're stuck with her for at least 2 more movies.

**Crazy_Carnifex**

Earth127 wrote:
I'll refer you to the latest TLJ thread.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
But TLDR: you're stuck with her for at least 2 more movies.

Which One?

**Earth127**

Re-reading, sorry my comment was off the discussion about KK was indeed in this thread. Tough I think it slightly inappropriate becaus it started to centers on TLJ's failings, not Solo's.

**Formosa**

Earth127 wrote:
Re-reading, sorry my comment was off the discussion about KK was indeed in this thread. Tough I think it slightly inappropriate becaus it started to centers on TLJ's failings, not Solo's.

Solo is one of her failures, so I thought it appropriate to put it here, while I liked it more than TLJ, a polished turd is still a turd.

**Galef**

Frazzled wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:
I hate watching stuff at home because of the constant stream of idiot questions and commentary from the two women in my life.

"Who's that bloke?"
"Why's he got a gun?"
"Why's he got a hat?"
"Isn't his hat stupid?"
"What's a Maltese Falcon anyway?"

Me: "Sigh..." "The film explains all these things, if you actually watch it! That's what it's for!"

At the cinema they have to shut up and actually watch the film.

OMG you too?!?!

My oldest son can be quite annoying in this regard. Although he actually pays attention, he does seem to know how to just sit in silence. He has to make comments or point out something he thinks is ridiculous. I blame the video games.

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**Mr Morden**

I donlt mind talking at hime as it cna be paused etc

Films at the cinema should be viewed in total silence, anyone talking or eating loudly, messing about with fething sweep wrappers etc should be thrown out.

**Future War Cultist**

When I went to see A Quiet Place of all movies, this old bastard was coughing and mumbling to himself for a good while until the topper when his phone went off and he answered it and just started having a conversation. It’s the only time I’ve ever had an argument with somebody in the cinema. At least we made them leave.

Back to Solo, do you think

Spoiler:

was a bit ott? Like Vader’s little quip about choking? I seen somebody mention this here before.

**Grimskul**

Future War Cultist wrote:
When I went to see A Quiet Place of all movies, this old bastard was coughing and mumbling to himself for a good while until the topper when his phone went off and he answered it and just started having a conversation. It’s the only time I’ve ever had an argument with somebody in the cinema. At least we made them leave.

Back to Solo, do you think

Spoiler:

Maul activating his lightsaber

was a bit ott? Like Vader’s little quip about choking? I seen somebody mention this here before.

It did seem rather unnecessary, a little too fanservicey. Him throwing his hood back to reveal himself was good enough, especially since she didn't seem high enough the ranks to warrant a show of force on his part.

**Galef**

It may have been ott and "fan-servicey", but I don't think it's too out of character. Force users are few and far between in this time period and Maul wouldn't be above reminding an underling of what he is capable of.
Displaying his lightsaber is a very effective way to do this, and it refutes any doubts among casual movie goers (that didn't watch the Clone Wars) that this really is Maul.
Without the lightsaber, some viewers might think the character was just the same species as Maul, but not actually Maul, since Maul "died" in TPM.

In short, I was ok with a little flash.

**Manchu**

The lightsaber thing was just to make it clear to general audiences that it wqs that guy from that other movie who I guess isn’t dead after all.

Vader’s choke jole in R1 is to show how bored and lonely he is.

**Lance845**

I thought it was too much until i talked with someone who really likes the sw movies but never watched or read any of the shows/expanded materials and so never knew that was alive. He needed me to confirm the characters identity.

**Paradigm**

While we're on the topic of that character, one thing I picked up on with a second viewing was that Enfys mentioned the Crimson Dawn were acting 'in league with the Empire' when they committed the atrocities in her story. I wonder if that lends some more credence to the theory that

Spoiler:

**Grimskul**

Paradigm wrote:
While we're on the topic of that character, one thing I picked up on with a second viewing was that Enfys mentioned the Crimson Dawn were acting 'in league with the Empire' when they committed the atrocities in her story. I wonder if that lends some more credence to the theory that

Spoiler:

ultimately, Maul is still answering to Palpatine in some capacity. The Emperor thus uses Vader to enforce the law and Maul to control/monitor those elements that exist outside it.

That also fits with the theme that comes up a few times in Solo that everyone answers to someone eventually.

I doubt Maul was willingly working with Sidious, after the events involving Mother Talzin, not to mention his later role in Rebels. I could see it more as profiteering and abusing the corruption present in the Imperial system, similar to how he used Prime Minister Almec as a figurehead when he took control of Mandalore.

**Vulcan**

Formosa wrote:
Good news, looks like Kathleen Kennedy may be on the way out!

So happy about this, now maybe we can ditch the BS politics and get star wars back on track!

Maybe. First Disney has to find someone willing to take her place. Star Wars should be about the easiest franchise in the world to run for a massive profit. KK has fouled the nest so thoroughly no one in the industry wants to take the challenge of cleaning up after her.

Maybe I should apply for the job. I can't do any worse than she did....

**Lance845**

SW is a franchise that until disney aquired it had about 2.5 good movies out of 8 and a fan base that rages and hates harder than most.

Its one of the worst things to be in charge of and i would LOVE to watch you be in charge.

**Compel**

I think that character is playing the long game (one that is ultimately unsuccessful).

I wonder whether they'll spin in Prince Xizor as the successor.