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Mysterio wrote: You still probably decide for yourself though, and not rely solely on someone else's opinion.
I mean, if you're at all interested and aren't just in it for the schadenfreude.
Agreed and as always - F the Critics.
Might see it this week.
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LunarSol wrote: IGN's review of makes comparisons to Catwoman, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and Elektra. :(
Seems a bit unfair to LoEG to be associated with those two, but its been awhile since I saw it. I remember vaguely enjoying it and didn't even know it was based on a comic book until like 4 years ago.
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CBM wrote:As of right now, 29 reviews have been counted with 8 Rotten and 21 Fresh. That means with an average rating of 4.3/10, Venom's current Rotten Tomatoes score is a lowly 28% putting it firmly in Suicide Squad territory but well above Fantastic Four. A lot of reviews still need to be counted so this score could change over the coming days but it's likely to increase or decrease significantly at this stage.
As for the Critics Consensus, that says: "Venom's first standalone movie turns out to be like the comics character in all the wrong ways - chaotic, noisy, and in desperate need of a stronger attachment to Spider-Man."
I loved Suicide Squad, so I should probably see this...
Screen Junkies reviewers both liked it. One said that Hardy's performance saves an otherwise garbage movie, so if you aren't a big Hardy fan you likely won't enjoy it. The other says the film is "hot garbage in the best way" and compared it to Showgirls. They both agree that you have to be in a certain mood to roll with the movie or you'll hate it.
Mysterio wrote: You still probably decide for yourself though, and not rely solely on someone else's opinion.
I mean, if you're at all interested and aren't just in it for the schadenfreude.
Limited time and money. I do the cinema once a month tops. When it’s nearly £20 to get in and some scran, better for me to wait for the digital release and rent it for £5. YMMV, and fair enough. Only ever speak for myself.
The odd thing is, messy as they say it is, they’re also saying it’s actually fairly fun.
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Mysterio wrote: You still probably decide for yourself though, and not rely solely on someone else's opinion.
I mean, if you're at all interested and aren't just in it for the schadenfreude.
Limited time and money. I do the cinema once a month tops. When it’s nearly £20 to get in and some scran, better for me to wait for the digital release and rent it for £5.
Ah, got it!
Ctaylor wrote:io9 gave it a mostly positive review, with some concerns.
Some movies are critic proof, and Venom fits that profile.
Be interesting to see boxofficemojo’s prediction on Friday.
I think it will just have one of those 'record' week 2 drop offs that some outlets will love to see and report on, but that yeah, it will end up being a fun movie if you've set your expectations accordingly.
Sounds as if they made the classic mistake for an origin story and fail to have Venom arrive until most of the audience is becoming comatose,
but once he does arrive there is fun to be had (wonder if there is a chance we could get a re-cut for DVD/Blu Ray as there's meant to be a bunch more venom stuff that wasn't used)
Vulcan wrote: Given that the critics loved the Ghostbusters remake and The Last Jedi, I'm actually thinking this makes Venom look a lot better.
Very good point!
I don't need a movie to get nominated for an Oscar, I just want to be entertained for a couple hours. Too many critics and filmmakers forget that. (But, hey, not all movies for all people. I'm glad there is a variety of films and TV shows these days. Heck, there is too much media to consume thanks to Netlflix, Hulu, Amazon and the like.)
BobtheInquisitor wrote:Screen Junkies reviewers both liked it. One said that Hardy's performance saves an otherwise garbage movie, so if you aren't a big Hardy fan you likely won't enjoy it. The other says the film is "hot garbage in the best way" and compared it to Showgirls. They both agree that you have to be in a certain mood to roll with the movie or you'll hate it.
To be fair, Showgirl is a great movie to watch with the sound off. I have a fairly strong crush on Elizabeth Berkley, so I may be prejudiced.
As far as the Venom movie goes, this was always going to be a Redbox at best for me, more than likely a Netflix/Disney streaming/whatever. Reviews won't change that, I simply am not as moved by the character as I am other characters. For instance, literally ANY character from the Ultraverse.
Mysterio wrote: You still probably decide for yourself though, and not rely solely on someone else's opinion.
I mean, if you're at all interested and aren't just in it for the schadenfreude.
Limited time and money. I do the cinema once a month tops. When it’s nearly £20 to get in and some scran, better for me to wait for the digital release and rent it for £5.
Ah, got it!
Ctaylor wrote:io9 gave it a mostly positive review, with some concerns.
Some movies are critic proof, and Venom fits that profile.
Be interesting to see boxofficemojo’s prediction on Friday.
I think it will just have one of those 'record' week 2 drop offs that some outlets will love to see and report on, but that yeah, it will end up being a fun movie if you've set your expectations accordingly.
I get the sense that the negativity brigade has been hard at work all along with Venom. Goes to show you that they don't just target DC movies.
Anyway, the trouble with doombaiting is that it sticks somewhat if the movie doesn't get stellar reviews. There were people trying to work that gak with Wonder Woman in advance of its release -- starting stories about it being a troubled production, etc. -- but they didn't stick because the movie was good and audiences liked it. With mixed reviews, Venom might not be able to brush that stuff aside as easily.
I doubt I'm going to get the chance to see it in the theater, but like LunarSol I think I'm more interested in it now because of the negativity.
I think it will just have one of those 'record' week 2 drop offs that some outlets will love to see and report on, but that yeah, it will end up being a fun movie if you've set your expectations accordingly.
I get the sense that the negativity brigade has been hard at work all along with Venom. Goes to show you that they don't just target DC movies.
Anyway, the trouble with doombaiting is that it sticks somewhat if the movie doesn't get stellar reviews. There were people trying to work that gak with Wonder Woman in advance of its release -- starting stories about it being a troubled production, etc. -- but they didn't stick because the movie was good and audiences liked it. With mixed reviews, Venom might not be able to brush that stuff aside as easily.
I doubt I'm going to get the chance to see it in the theater, but like LunarSol I think I'm more interested in it now because of the negativity.
I have to wonder what these Negativity Brigades get out of this?
And maybe they target DC and non-Disney Marvel movies?
I was interested anyway, so I'm with you there - I'll probably go see it this month sometime.
Captain Joystick wrote:
Mysterio wrote: Carnage is a one note thin 'character' that should have been in his one (maybe two!) story arc, and then never heard from again.
I think it will just have one of those 'record' week 2 drop offs that some outlets will love to see and report on, but that yeah, it will end up being a fun movie if you've set your expectations accordingly.
I get the sense that the negativity brigade has been hard at work all along with Venom. Goes to show you that they don't just target DC movies.
Anyway, the trouble with doombaiting is that it sticks somewhat if the movie doesn't get stellar reviews. There were people trying to work that gak with Wonder Woman in advance of its release -- starting stories about it being a troubled production, etc. -- but they didn't stick because the movie was good and audiences liked it. With mixed reviews, Venom might not be able to brush that stuff aside as easily.
I doubt I'm going to get the chance to see it in the theater, but like LunarSol I think I'm more interested in it now because of the negativity.
I have to wonder what these Negativity Brigades get out of this?
And maybe they target DC and non-Disney Marvel movies?
I was interested anyway, so I'm with you there - I'll probably go see it this month sometime.
Well, the bloggers and clickbait-filled geek sites undoubtedly get more clicks. I don't think there's anything more nefarious behind it than that. I think they'd start gak with MCU movies too, but they're generally well received and so the negativity doesn't get much traction.
timetowaste85 wrote: Opinions from anyone who saw it last night? I assume it had a show around 10pm and somebody from here must have gone on opening night.
I'm easily pleased, so YMMV, but I was thoroughly entertained. It started slow as they set up the villain and showed how Brock is a bit of a jerk. Venom was well characterised and watch the two of them bicker was fun. Didn't care much for the villain, they were really just their for Venom to knock down.
Half decent pacing. Half decent plot. Cool action scenes. Tom Hardy/venom was well accomplished.
Spoiler:
And a scene with she-venom that reminded of certain feelings from my teenage years.
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We liked it. The first half could have been condensed in favor of more day to day conversation between Brock and Venom, and would have been better as an R, but the second half is a romping good time.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Ctaylor wrote: Venom turned out to be totally critic proof. Broke the October record by about $20M and way outperformed all the estimates.
Cool.
Excellent Show how worthless critics are.
Hopefully watching this week
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
So I saw it, ended up liking it, but it's by no means a good movie. It ended up reminding me of Spawn, or a louder, angrier Guyver 2.
Someone in my theatre didn't feel the same way, got up when the (incredibly terrible) Eminem credits song started playing and started wailing "this movie sucks!" and "worst film of 2018!" so... Maybe not suitable for 18 year olds up past their bed time.
Spoiler:
It's actually a pretty hard PG-13, Venom actually bites some heads off on-screen and we get protruding bones and such, but there's at least one scene where they very clearly cut out a shot of a cute fluffy bunny getting attacked by the monster from Life so this stuff about it 'always being meant to be PG-13' is a lie. I expect an uncensored cut.
Two post-credits sequences, the first is worth staying for because it's laughably bad but the second is just a preview of that animated movie they're making.
