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2018/05/01 19:16:18
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
That Xenium horror is another great reminder of how terrible the base game abomination is. Also, good to see somebody is exited about the floating fat man homage stretch goal.
2018/05/02 15:44:52
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
With only nine hours left in the second to last day of this kickstarter, they've raised a little less than $100K. The second to last day of Massive Darkness they raised $350K. Is there a chance they raise 250K over the next nine hours? Sure. But I don't think this one has much more gas in the tank.
2018/05/02 15:58:38
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
Gallahad wrote: With only nine hours left in the second to last day of this kickstarter, they've raised a little less than $100K. The second to last day of Massive Darkness they raised $350K. Is there a chance they raise 250K over the next nine hours? Sure. But I don't think this one has much more gas in the tank.
They've done roughly $200K in the last 24 hours though... Maybe it'll ramp up for the last 36 hours...
You can find me in the Chicago Tiki Room, where the drinks are always strong but don't taste that way!!!
The addition of the counter base pack suggests they are pretty much out of add ons (waits to be proved wrong) CMON generally don’t do add ons on the last day so it’s today or that’s it.
Also worth remembering Chinese retail pledges haven’t been added to the total yet this was done on the last day of HATE and unlocked an extra tribe for all. So there might be another set of minis that could have been an add on waiting to be unlocked by Chinese pledges.
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2018/05/02 17:10:52
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
DaveC wrote: The addition of the counter base pack suggests they are pretty much out of add ons (waits to be proved wrong) CMON generally don’t do add ons on the last day so it’s today or that’s it.
Also worth remembering Chinese retail pledges haven’t been added to the total yet this was done on the last day of HATE and unlocked an extra tribe for all. So there might be another set of minis that could have been an add on waiting to be unlocked by Chinese pledges.
I'd really like this to be the case.
Speaking there are no Chinese survivors at all yet (however, two of the Kabuki gang have Chinese names) maybe they'll unlock a Chinese survivor or two.
You can find me in the Chicago Tiki Room, where the drinks are always strong but don't taste that way!!!
It does.semm all vaguely anticlimactic so.far. al2ays happy.to.get additional.stuff but the last few unlocks have been underwhelming. Now instead of not ruby rhod it had been Cat, that would have been a different story
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Mysterio wrote: "Counter Base Set" is an easy pass, so I don't think that's going to move the needle much at all.
Sad...
If they wanted to move the needle, they would have offered a "Miner" pledge that starts with Dark Side as the core, and adds the Survivor Pack to it.
As it is, they've locked out almost everybody who only wants Dark Side but doesn't want Invader. Huge mistake by not leading with Dark Side as a parallel pledge.
Or they could have used the more popular characters from borderlands instead of using the claptrap.
And this is were this one fails majorly in its conception, it is sci fi but instead of drawing from were sci fi is popular, video games and comics it draws from sci fi movies that are not so popular.
They could have payed homages to mass effect, starcraft, boderlands, gears of war, destiny, titanfall, ghost in the shell even Anthem and count the millions.
Seriously a not mass effect crew and a not GITS crew alone could have brought in the same amount of money, femshep and Motoko alone could bring 1/4th.
2018/05/02 19:00:34
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
Yeah. The choice of Dune, 5th element and blade Runner are pretty niche, if quite nicely done. I wonder if the problem was that half of the stuff had to have the slab armoured aesthetic of the troopers limiting the opportunity to do sleeker armoured designs linked to famous IPs.
A mini titan would have been awesome
On the other hand they may have also run into more aggressive cease and desist orders from the game and comic property owners. No star wars or star trek you notice and the MIB take off got nixed as well.
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PsychoticStorm wrote: Or they could have used the more popular characters from borderlands instead of using the claptrap.
And this is were this one fails majorly in its conception, it is sci fi but instead of drawing from were sci fi is popular, video games and comics it draws from sci fi movies that are not so popular.
They could have payed homages to mass effect, starcraft, boderlands, gears of war, destiny, titanfall, ghost in the shell even Anthem and count the millions.
Seriously a not mass effect crew and a not GITS crew alone could have brought in the same amount of money, femshep and Motoko alone could bring 1/4th.
Today I learned science fiction movies like Aliens, Dune, Back to the Future, Fifth Element, District 9, and Blade Runner are less iconic sci-fi fixtures than Titanfall, GoW and Starcraft.
Gosh your posts are amusing! Do you really believe this crap or are you just wish listing again?
And there are comic references in there. I will give you there could be a few more anime references, but the sci-fi CMON is paying tribute to is largely foundation works that are known, and if not loved, at least recognized by most sci-fi fans. Pay me $100 and I couldn't tell you what Anthem is without Googling it. Damn near anyone interested in sci-fi has heard of Aliens. Or Dune. Or Blade Runner.
2018/05/02 19:05:58
Subject: Re:Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
PsychoticStorm wrote: Or they could have used the more popular characters from borderlands instead of using the claptrap.
And this is were this one fails majorly in its conception, it is sci fi but instead of drawing from were sci fi is popular, video games and comics it draws from sci fi movies that are not so popular.
They could have payed homages to mass effect, starcraft, boderlands, gears of war, destiny, titanfall, ghost in the shell even Anthem and count the millions.
Seriously a not mass effect crew and a not GITS crew alone could have brought in the same amount of money, femshep and Motoko alone could bring 1/4th.
Damn but that sandwich board has got to be getting uncomfortable by now!
Thankfully the end really is near - amirite?!?
Anyway, I really do want something big and inspirational for that $3M goal ~ let's go CMON!
Insidious Intriguer
2018/05/02 19:28:54
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I'm surprised they haven't had some titanic, humanoid ballsack-chinned homage character with a Destiny Glove.
Well at least they didn't go for fricken Aquaman
I also wonder what is so magical about the atmosphere of the planet that stops bullets from working.
Negativity aside it looks like great fun and I'm just annoyed it will only get here a year after paying for it. I should get some impatience pills or something
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PsychoticStorm wrote: Or they could have used the more popular characters from borderlands instead of using the claptrap.
And this is were this one fails majorly in its conception, it is sci fi but instead of drawing from were sci fi is popular, video games and comics it draws from sci fi movies that are not so popular.
They could have payed homages to mass effect, starcraft, boderlands, gears of war, destiny, titanfall, ghost in the shell even Anthem and count the millions.
Seriously a not mass effect crew and a not GITS crew alone could have brought in the same amount of money, femshep and Motoko alone could bring 1/4th.
Today I learned science fiction movies like Aliens, Dune, Back to the Future, Fifth Element, District 9, and Blade Runner are less iconic sci-fi fixtures than Titanfall, GoW and Starcraft.
Gosh your posts are amusing! Do you really believe this crap or are you just wish listing again?
And there are comic references in there. I will give you there could be a few more anime references, but the sci-fi CMON is paying tribute to is largely foundation works that are known, and if not loved, at least recognized by most sci-fi fans. Pay me $100 and I couldn't tell you what Anthem is without Googling it. Damn near anyone interested in sci-fi has heard of Aliens. Or Dune. Or Blade Runner.
You have to take into account the target audience they aim for and what they are more likely to know and what fits with the game.
So what we have from Aliens Vasquez and? most iconic elements from alien are missing and we could have colonial marines instead of powered armour marines, Dune? Baron Harconen is distinct, sandworms more so and more iconic, back to the future is neither relevant to this zombicide, nor I saw many excited by the tribute miniatures, also quite dated IP I do not think most backers have nostalgia feelings about it, Fifth element you have Leeloo and that is what everybody cares about this IP, District 9 is not a widely known movie and has one (ok two if you count the mech) iconic things blade runner has two characters? to draw from and they are "iconic" could be in first zombcide and nobody would notice.
When you do the homage miniatures to bring up sales you either target for big nostalgia especially if the nostalgia models are not done by anybody and currently popular and hot IP, aliens ectr has been serviced quite a lot (but still has potential) while the current sci fi demographic is more infused in computer games and there is a lack of CG IP character models than in the old movies that have no contemporary value, even in the comments you see the calls for Half life ectr.
These should be the IP they should be aiming for, instead they went for 40k and old sci fi IP that are not current.
It is not "wish-listing" it is a pragmatic aproach.
Edit I am not sure if 40k is a conscious approach or just Andrian Smith been Andrian Smith
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2018/05/02 20:46:00
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
PsychoticStorm wrote: Or they could have used the more popular characters from borderlands instead of using the claptrap.
And this is were this one fails majorly in its conception, it is sci fi but instead of drawing from were sci fi is popular, video games and comics it draws from sci fi movies that are not so popular.
They could have payed homages to mass effect, starcraft, boderlands, gears of war, destiny, titanfall, ghost in the shell even Anthem and count the millions.
Seriously a not mass effect crew and a not GITS crew alone could have brought in the same amount of money, femshep and Motoko alone could bring 1/4th.
Maybe I’m getting old but I don’t know what borderlands is. I’ve never heard of Destiny, Titanfall or Anthem. I do however, know all about Fifth Element, Back to the Future and Dune. I seriously wonder if the people playing whatever Gears of War is, are really the people likely to drop a couple of hundred dollars on a board game.
2018/05/02 20:59:53
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
Maybe? FFG tried it so it probably has potential, could say Halo instead, but the GoW armour is closer to what they have as art design, Doom would be another hot IP they could have tapped.
@DaveC sorry autocorrect.
2018/05/02 21:08:36
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
PsychoticStorm wrote: Or they could have used the more popular characters from borderlands instead of using the claptrap.
And this is were this one fails majorly in its conception, it is sci fi but instead of drawing from were sci fi is popular, video games and comics it draws from sci fi movies that are not so popular.
They could have payed homages to mass effect, starcraft, boderlands, gears of war, destiny, titanfall, ghost in the shell even Anthem and count the millions.
Seriously a not mass effect crew and a not GITS crew alone could have brought in the same amount of money, femshep and Motoko alone could bring 1/4th.
Today I learned science fiction movies like Aliens, Dune, Back to the Future, Fifth Element, District 9, and Blade Runner are less iconic sci-fi fixtures than Titanfall, GoW and Starcraft.
Gosh your posts are amusing! Do you really believe this crap or are you just wish listing again?
And there are comic references in there. I will give you there could be a few more anime references, but the sci-fi CMON is paying tribute to is largely foundation works that are known, and if not loved, at least recognized by most sci-fi fans. Pay me $100 and I couldn't tell you what Anthem is without Googling it. Damn near anyone interested in sci-fi has heard of Aliens. Or Dune. Or Blade Runner.
You have to take into account the target audience they aim for and what they are more likely to know and what fits with the game.
So what we have from Aliens Vasquez and? most iconic elements from alien are missing and we could have colonial marines instead of powered armour marines, Dune? Baron Harconen is distinct, sandworms more so and more iconic, back to the future is neither relevant to this zombicide, nor I saw many excited by the tribute miniatures, also quite dated IP I do not think most backers have nostalgia feelings about it, Fifth element you have Leeloo and that is what everybody cares about this IP, District 9 is not a widely known movie and has one (ok two if you count the mech) iconic things blade runner has two characters? to draw from and they are "iconic" could be in first zombcide and nobody would notice.
So what? You want them to put all the characters from each movie in the game? A character per movie/book/etc. is often enough to pay homage to that license without the game becoming a cheap knock off of the thing to which an homage is being made. As is we have Ripley and Vasquez from Aliens. The mothxenos look like face huggers, anything else and we start Kickstarting a "not-Aliens" game.
Also, Back to the Future isn't relevant? District 9 is not widely known? And Blade Runner is iconic because of the first Zombicide? See that is where your argument loses me. No, actually those are perfect examples of what has made me scratch my head with a lot of your posts about this campaign. You make grand assertions based on your own preferences. It is annoying and it kills any argument you are attempting to put forth.
PsychoticStorm wrote: When you do the homage miniatures to bring up sales you either target for big nostalgia especially if the nostalgia models are not done by anybody and currently popular and hot IP, aliens ectr has been serviced quite a lot (but still has potential) while the current sci fi demographic is more infused in computer games and there is a lack of CG IP character models than in the old movies that have no contemporary value, even in the comments you see the calls for Half life ectr.
Citation needed. Nearly every year there are block buster/large budget sci-fi movies (not including Star Wars/Trek in that statement), and in the last few years there has been an explosion of great sci-fi television. That doesn't even touch on books and comics either. I don't think it is accurate at all to say that sci-fi fans are more "infused" in video games.
Or they could have used the more popular characters from borderlands instead of using the claptrap.
And this is were this one fails majorly in its conception, it is sci fi but instead of drawing from were sci fi is popular, video games and comics it draws from sci fi movies that are not so popular.
They could have payed homages to mass effect, starcraft, boderlands, gears of war, destiny, titanfall, ghost in the shell even Anthem and count the millions.
Seriously a not mass effect crew and a not GITS crew alone could have brought in the same amount of money, femshep and Motoko alone could bring 1/4th
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Maybe I’m getting old but I don’t know what borderlands is. I’ve never heard of Destiny, Titanfall or Anthem. I do however, know all about Fifth Element, Back to the Future and Dune. I seriously wonder if the people playing whatever Gears of War is, are really the people likely to drop a couple of hundred dollars on a board game.
And this. Based on the IPs being used in Invader, I'd say the target age group is likely in their 30's-50's. You know, folks who can more easily throw $280+ at a board game like MonkeyBallistic points out.
2018/05/02 21:24:42
Subject: Zombicide: Invader - Kickstarter on April 10!
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