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Now there's a plastic humans kit no one else has made. The first must buy for me in the whole campaign.

Waiting for many years for that town people.
Unfortunally it is a far awain goal

Nice - they confirmed in the comments that they will be 18 to a box like the zombies.

That folk rabble kit looks incredible and a segment woefully under represented in miniature. I'm very excited and will do my part to see it come to life.

Kickstarter link is now available here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fireforgegames/927490714?ref=558303&token=630d2b53

We made some changes on our campaign to try to listen your feedbacks. We changed stretch goals adding the possibility to get the stretch goal characters in hard plastic instead of resin, adding the possibility to unlock a plastic set for living villagers (Folk Rabble). We did what we can to listen your requests and suggestions, now we can only ask for you help to share our project and to search more people joining this campaign to unlock everything.

We changed the pledge levels, that are the following:

€1 Supporter (to donate 1€ to project or to get one box and/or add-ons)
€15 Forgotten World Rulebook (1 copy of the rules A4 format, full colour, paperback and add-on access)
€32 Beginner (2 boxes of your choice and add-on access)
€48 Living Dead Horde (3 living dead boxes of your choice, FREE stretch goals of Living Dead characters when unlocked and add-on access)
€48 Northmen Detachment (3 northmen boxes of your choice, FREE stretch goals of northmen characters when unlocked and add-on access)​
€64 Soldier (4 boxes of your choice, FREE stretch goal characters when unlocked and add-on access)
€96 Veteran (6 boxes of your choice, FREE stretch goal characters when unlocked and add-on access)​
€128 LIMITED EARLY BIRD (8 boxes of your choice, FREE Kickstarter exclusive figures, FREE stretch goal characters when unlocked and add-on access)​
€144 Forgotten World Starter Set - 108 models + tokens + rules (FREE Kickstarter exclusive figures, FREE stretch goal characters when unlocked and add-on access)​

We changed also retailer pledges and uploaded Shipping infos and infos about our future set of rules.
Note:there are problems in seeing the campaign preview link by mobile devices

link doesn't appear to be public yet?

EDIT: working now


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Can you clarify the price of the characters if they go plastic?

"You will get them in plastic instead of resin at he same prices and conditions" is very unclear - it implies that the plastic kit will be €56? I assume it would be 2 sprues 1 Northern and 1 Undead and does it entirely replace the resin versions as free stretch goas?

I think it's a very good idea I'm just not clear on whats happening and costs.

and shipping as it was asked for earlier

 DaveC wrote:
link doesn't appear to be public yet?

EDIT: working now


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Can you clarify the price of the characters if they go plastic?

"You will get them in plastic instead of resin at he same prices and conditions" is very unclear - it implies that the plastic kit will be €56? I assume it would be 2 sprues 1 Northern and 1 Undead and does it entirely replace the resin versions?

I think it's a very good idea I'm just not clear on whats happening and costs.

and shipping as it was asked for earlier

Each character (except the ks exclusive figures) will be a stand alone plastic kit. The price is the same if you take as add-on them, it changes only that if we will unlock their plastic version, you will get them in plastic instead of resin.

Pledges who have access to Free Characters as Stretch goals will get the characters always for free but in plastic instead of resin if campaign will unlock their plastic version.

Shipping costs are at bottom of the page

I'm totally in, but I have to say the main KS page is just too long. Most people will lose interest. I'd almost say, put the "starter set" pledge right at the top with a "Get all THIS! plus stretch goals!!! other pledge levels detailed below"

THanks for the clarification

And I agree with judgedoug you need to stick this right at the top



and the image has 24 bowmen but the pledge says 12.

The page is very long so the must important stuff needs to be up top.

we are waiting the painted figures to do a better picture and put our starter set on the top of the page also

your current image has too many bowmen 24 versus 12 in the pledge.

The additional value of including the SG characters in "lesser" batch pledges is really welcome and appreciated.

I agree with the others that a big honkin' "look at all the shiny!" image needs to be right up top where it can grab attention. I also think you need to put a lot of emphasis on the characters(people love their freebies) perhaps by moving the stretch goal progress image or a version of it with just the free character unlocks up to the top of the page just below the "big pledge" image.

I suggest changing the "Add Ons" section slightly to make it clearer that the characters are included, I had to go back and reread the characters & stretch goals section to reassure myself I could buy the KS exclusive figures with my Solider pledge if I wanted them.

A bit more information about the "Coupon" stretch goal would be good. Do we get one? One per unlocked extra faction? Is it just a code that backers can use to order as many boxes of those unlocked factions as we like at the KS price?

Otherwise, my only suggestion is to make sure that the campaign doesn't finish right before the end of the calendar month when a lot of folk get paid.

 Yodhrin wrote:
The additional value of including the SG characters in "lesser" batch pledges is really welcome and appreciated.

I agree with the others that a big honkin' "look at all the shiny!" image needs to be right up top where it can grab attention. I also think you need to put a lot of emphasis on the characters(people love their freebies) perhaps by moving the stretch goal progress image or a version of it with just the free character unlocks up to the top of the page just below the "big pledge" image.

I suggest changing the "Add Ons" section slightly to make it clearer that the characters are included, I had to go back and reread the characters & stretch goals section to reassure myself I could buy the KS exclusive figures with my Solider pledge if I wanted them.

we will work on

A bit more information about the "Coupon" stretch goal would be good. Do we get one? One per unlocked extra faction? Is it just a code that backers can use to order as many boxes of those unlocked factions as we like at the KS price?

We will explain them better. Coupons will work in this way: you will receive a coupon on our webstore when the product unlocked will be available for pre-order. Instead to pay the MSRP price, with your coupon you will be able to get the released products in any quantity you want at kickstarter price for your first order. And you will get a coupon for each stretch goal.

Example:
We will unlock Folk Rabble, the New Human Faction and the Orcs. You will receive 3 coupons.
When the products will be available you can get all the boxes you want for these released products at the kickstarter price. This will works also if the release will be in different months, for example June 2019 Folk Rabble, October 2019 the 2 new boxes of the new human faction. The coupons will work each one for the right stretch goal unlocked (with their products)

Otherwise, my only suggestion is to make sure that the campaign doesn't finish right before the end of the calendar month when a lot of folk get paid.

Campaign will for sure start after the 20 of september


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 DaveC wrote:
your current image has too many bowmen 24 versus 12 in the pledge.

a photoshop error in the making of the picture :( we are sorry for that

The human rabble has pushed me over the edge onto backing this one! I was leaning towards just waiting for retail but I need to get in on that rabble. All the stuff, both undead and alive, looks pretty great already but that kind of kit in particular has been needed for decades.

It has never been feasible to get a good looking peasant horde in Warhammer or KoW when we have to rely on lots of metal packs to form huge units, (and there hasn't even been a good selection of suitable models there either).

Good shipping prices too. Looks like my fave KS of the year.

I'm holding off pledging on KS at the moment, but I wish you guys well and will definitely end up owning some of these. The biggest winners so far are the rabble townfolk --- you could fund the KS just based on those they're so useful for soooo many games. Nice stuff.

September 20 seems so far away. I am hoping to get the 8 box early bird. Right now I am thinking:

6 boxes of Warriors... to make
30 Spearmen
30 swords men
12 extra warriors for characters/ conversions etc
6 cavalry with lances
6 cavalry with swords

With 16 command Sprues I could make an- up armored command unit or some elite frostgrave guys

I had been planning on getting some undead, but may just get more warriors. Will definitely get 3 boxes of the Rabble... I hope this goes very well and they unlock the other Human faction boxes and the other races. Excited for this.

Wait. The characters will be plastic? How much will they cost as add ons?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Wait. The characters will be plastic? How much will they cost as add ons?

They are resin at the start and are 8 euro to add on for the foot characters and 12 Euro for mounted characters.

If the stretch goal that turns them in to molded plastic is reached then the add on cost is the same as if they were resin. So 8 and 12.

 Smokestack wrote:
A pic of the Rabble stretch goal Posted on Facebook



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"Wip of Folk Rabble plastic kit, that will be unlocked as stretch goal on our kickstarter in september. Do you like it? Join our campaign

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At last! Revolting Peasants! Who can also be used to represent a peasant rebellion

Have you guys considered leading with the human rabble, or moving them up earlier in the funding queue? Based on comments here they are shaping up to be real stars. Having them only unlock at a quarter of a million seems like it will be difficult to reach.

These look fantastic. Finally someone else making 28mm heroic horses. And fingers eternally crossed for some Bretonnian Grail Knight / Arthurian style cavalry replacements...

The new Peasants look amazing, I hope they will have the option of having some slightly less Heroic Axe heads though, something that looks more like a woodsman axe would be nice.

Everything looks really great... but those human rabble are simply a must have, IMHO. So many uses...

Rabble are great. We need more random peasants.

Plus, in plastic?!?!? Yes please!

There will be all sorts of conversions out there if get these!

It might not be a bad idea to move them to an earlier funding position. There is obviously lots of interest.

The peasants looks great, but what are the many uses that you all have for them, RPG and ?

Agreed on moving the rabble up the list of unlocks as these are also getting a lot of attention on other forums.

I'm a bit confused by the add-on costs table though. I think you may have a typo in there as it lists the starter set as costing 144 euro at kickstarter and only 20 afterwards. I think you may want to fix that one

Samko wrote:
The peasants looks great, but what are the many uses that you all have for them, RPG and ?

Well, mainly dozens of RPGs and boardgames that use NPCs, but also all sort of historical or scenario-driven wargames... they are generic enough to be used from medievals to 20th century, so with conversions you could get a whole lot out of them.


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And reposted on rpg.net. I have a feeling they might find it interesting...

https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?833321-Kickstarter-Forgotten-World-Fireforge-s-new-fantasy-range&p=22088282#post22088282

Just thinking on the Rabble and coupon you are not going to raise any additional funds for them in the KS just leaving them as later after KS purchase at a special price for backers anyone who wants just the rabble has no incentive to back now and then won't get the coupon either and backers have no reason to put in extra funds for them.

I understand that you can't tool them with the initial six but have you considered more than 1 wave of items and charging shipping separately for each wave? you'll get all those €16s a box upfront now including from those who just want the rabble and then you can ship them 3 months later and just collect the postage then. It would certainly help to raise the required €250,000 within the KS.


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 sphynx wrote:
These look fantastic. Finally someone else making 28mm heroic horses. And fingers eternally crossed for some Bretonnian Grail Knight / Arthurian style cavalry replacements...

They already have them and Pegasus Knights

https://fireforge-games.com/fantasy-knights/252-albion-s-knights.html

It would be nice to see a comparison picture with the Northern Cavalry

Coupons are also something specifically prohibited by KS https://www.kickstarter.com/rules/prohibited

so while I know projects do offer them, the can get pulled/paused if KS spots them or somebody reports you so

I'd at least change the term you're using, maybe voucher, future discount or something similar