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 Geifer wrote:
[...]everything (without exception) about plastic Sisters is damage control. GW was in on the Sisters joke, until they realized it wasn't a joke.

100% correct here. Plastic Sisters of ... Silence wasn't funny to me. Finding plastic Sisters in a bin wasn't funny to me. Re-setting a clock whenever someone asked about plastic Sisters wasn't funny to me. "Announcing" that there might be, maybe, perhaps, conceivably be plastic Sisters in 2019 was neither funny nor impressive nor celebratory to me. All of these "jokes" amount to trolling, from my perspective.

But now we have something meaningful, even if it's just a render. And its a really gorgeous render, at that. To me, it is at least a reassurance if not a lowkey apology. I look at this render and to me it feels like GW is saying, look we get this is serious and look how seriously we are taking this now. I appreciate that immensely.

 Geifer wrote:
And just because I think I've neglected to mention it in a while:

Emperor Willing!

Sure, let's not forget this is all conditional (on who knows what), after all.

 Geifer wrote:
GW was in on the Sisters joke, until they realized it wasn't a joke.

I like how you phrase it!

Edit: doesn’t matter.

 BrookM wrote:
Decals that tiny are a horrible ordeal to work with though.

I didn't say it would be easy.

Micron pens, people. I will never try and do text or teeny-weeny things with brushes again.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Micron pens, people. I will never try and do text or teeny-weeny things with brushes again.

Now I am intrigued. Going to have to look this up.

7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.

I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.

I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
One of the posts announcing it mentioned it was plastic

And, for what it's worth, the GW social media team said multiple time in the facebook comment that it was plastic rather than resin.

Fair enough. Hadn't realised they had taken steps to confirm that. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

 Manchu wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
[...]everything (without exception) about plastic Sisters is damage control. GW was in on the Sisters joke, until they realized it wasn't a joke.

100% correct here. Plastic Sisters of ... Silence wasn't funny to me. Finding plastic Sisters in a bin wasn't funny to me. Re-setting a clock whenever someone asked about plastic Sisters wasn't funny to me. "Announcing" that there might be, maybe, perhaps, conceivably be plastic Sisters in 2019 was neither funny nor impressive nor celebratory to me. All of these "jokes" amount to trolling, from my perspective.

But now we have something meaningful, even if it's just a render. And its a really gorgeous render, at that. To me, it is at least a reassurance if not a lowkey apology. I look at this render and to me it feels like GW is saying, look we get this is serious and look how seriously we are taking this now. I appreciate that immensely.

 Geifer wrote:
And just because I think I've neglected to mention it in a while:

Emperor Willing!

Sure, let's not forget this is all conditional (on who knows what), after all.

I feel the same way. I'd hear on Warhammer TV when someone would pester the team about plastic sisters, they'd always mention the sisters of silence, but going back and watching that original teaser video, they said, without a doubt, "plastic sisters of battle."

And then we got Celestine as a pittance. It's great to see them turning around. I took stock of some reactions on Facebook (and even posted the information I'm about to share on the Warhammer 40k FB page, but it got deleted, I wonder why )

The plastic sisters render got 3,700 reactions.
The Necron FW construct revealed at Warhammer Fest got 1,900 reactions.
The Rogue Trader teaser got about 1,800 reactions.

The only thing that came close to number of reactions to the render of one model is the Big FAQ, which got 3,400 reactions. LESS than the sisters, and you know that many of those reactions were not positive ones.

A lot of 40k players are salty that 40k didn't get much attention during Warhammer Fest, but to me, that one plastic sisters render means a lot more than anything they could have announced. It's a bit of solidarity, a reassurance that they are listening, and that they're sticking to the design they've already established for the Sisters of Battle and updating it to reflect their updated skill and technology.

The whole 'Emperor Willing' thing is just a way of saying 'Look, we're shooting for end of 2019, but if anything happens, it may be 2020, so, like, don't murder us.'

Actually I'm glad that it's end of 2019.

We're supposed to get our Beta rules in this years Chapter Approved (2018), so a late 2019 release gives them time to gather feed-back on the army before it goes to publishing.

I'd be rather off put if they released a Beta in December, and announced that the whole codex would be available in say, March, considering it typically takes a three month turn around for publishing.

 Mmmpi wrote:
Actually I'm glad that it's end of 2019.

We're supposed to get our Beta rules in this years Chapter Approved (2018), so a late 2019 release gives them time to gather feed-back on the army before it goes to publishing.

I'd be rather off put if they released a Beta in December, and announced that the whole codex would be available in say, March, considering it typically takes a three month turn around for publishing.

Realistically the reason such a gap isn't just possible but to be expected is because they only started the Sisters project two or three months ago, so they couldn't really speed up especially model production (which obviously determines when the codex is released). Whipping up some rules to put into Chapter Approved (if that's where the beta rules end up in) is easy by comparison, especially since the faction isn't new and they have a foundation in the index already.

 godswildcard wrote:
I’ve always been a big fan of the ‘Aztec’ themed sister of battle who’s image floats around every now and then. I realize that some people aren’t big fans for fluff reasons, but I’m thinking that I may try and do that theme since I’m painting Some Kukulkani for Dark Age that should give me some good experience.

Kitbashing with Necromunda Escher and perhaps even Seraphon or Tzeentch daemons for feathers would work there.

 Haighus wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Micron pens, people. I will never try and do text or teeny-weeny things with brushes again.

Now I am intrigued. Going to have to look this up.

I'm also intrigued. Any hints on how to use them?

 monarda wrote:


I'm also intrigued. Any hints on how to use them?

Just write on the model. The ink adheres to acrylic surfaces and is waterproof, so you can paint and glaze it over. The smallest nib I know of is 0.15mm, so you can get some pretty decent detail.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 monarda wrote:


I'm also intrigued. Any hints on how to use them?

Just write on the model. The ink adheres to acrylic surfaces and is waterproof, so you can paint and glaze it over. The smallest nib I know of is 0.15mm, so you can get some pretty decent detail.

Yup. You have to be a bit gentle, obviously, but they're incredibly useful and you can get them in a reasonable range of colours.

 Geifer wrote:

 Mmmpi wrote:
Actually I'm glad that it's end of 2019.

We're supposed to get our Beta rules in this years Chapter Approved (2018), so a late 2019 release gives them time to gather feed-back on the army before it goes to publishing.

I'd be rather off put if they released a Beta in December, and announced that the whole codex would be available in say, March, considering it typically takes a three month turn around for publishing.

Realistically the reason such a gap isn't just possible but to be expected is because they only started the Sisters project two or three months ago, so they couldn't really speed up especially model production (which obviously determines when the codex is released). Whipping up some rules to put into Chapter Approved (if that's where the beta rules end up in) is easy by comparison, especially since the faction isn't new and they have a foundation in the index already.

Oh yeah, it makes perfect sense. However, the CA dex is supposed to include things like relics, and (if I'm remembering correctly) "chapter traits"

 Manchu wrote:
... damage control...

 Geifer wrote:
... everything (without exception) about plastic Sisters is damage control.

 Manchu wrote:
Plastic Sisters of ... Silence wasn't funny to me. Finding plastic Sisters in a bin wasn't funny to me. Re-setting a clock whenever someone asked about plastic Sisters wasn't funny to me. "Announcing" that there might be, maybe, perhaps, conceivably be plastic Sisters in 2019 was neither funny nor impressive nor celebratory to me. All of these "jokes" amount to trolling, from my perspective.

There it is! Took us 9 pages, but we got there in the end.

Hive fives all 'round everyone!

Damage control? I mean honestly... do you actually believe that? Genuinely? Or do you maybe perhaps think that GW, a company that has spent over a decade shutting out its customer base and treating them like a necessary evil finally put a big survey out into the wild and, to their surprise, found an overwhelming desire for Sisters of Battle to be taken seriously as an army, and therefore responded accordingly by actually starting the process of making them?

"Damage control" vs "Company coming out of its self-imposed shell responding to customer feedback".

Don't need Occam's Razor to see which is the more likely. And the least melodramatic.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Damage control" vs "Company coming out of its self-imposed shell responding to customer feedback".

You act like these are mutually exclusive.

He answered his own question, Geifer.

Micron pens are indeed great. They're my little secret for purity seals, scrollwork, and eyes.

For a tattoo on skin I think the best way to do it would be to dilute the colour a bit by applying the pen before the last, lightest fleshtone that would go on that surface.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There it is! Took us 9 pages, but we got there in the end.

Hive fives all 'round everyone!

Some grumbling nine pages in? I'm flabbergasted! Truly an unprecedented level of toxicity!

 Captain Joystick wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There it is! Took us 9 pages, but we got there in the end.

Hive fives all 'round everyone!

Some grumbling nine pages in? I'm flabbergasted! Truly an unprecedented level of toxicity!

It only happens on Sisters of Battle threads though. For every other faction, after 1000 pages, you still cannot find ANY complaint AT ALL! Very unique!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Captain Joystick wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There it is! Took us 9 pages, but we got there in the end.

Hive fives all 'round everyone!

Some grumbling nine pages in? I'm flabbergasted! Truly an unprecedented level of toxicity!

It only happens on Sisters of Battle threads though. For every other faction, after 1000 pages, you still cannot find ANY complaint AT ALL! Very unique!

Ah yes, overly exaggerated sarcasm from people who have helped turned threads into SoB threads when they weren't originally about them. Riveting really!

At least it took a while before we got the conspiracy theory though. Loving the model, hope we'll see more.. I wonder if we'll finally get some rather uniqueish SoB kits that don't just feature more basic flamers and meltas.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
I wonder if we'll finally get some rather uniqueish SoB kits that don't just feature more basic flamers and meltas.

In the same vein as the exorcist, then. Would be great.

Oh yeah, I really wouldn't mind more weird church imagery turned weaponry. I kind of want missionaries with loud hailers that's able to tune them up into pseudo sonic weapons. If those things can reach near hundreds to thousands of people in a huge area, I really want to see it turned up to max when enemies are near. Though not too sure how fitting it'd look in the army proper.

Though at this point I would prefer more sanctified weaponry that doesn't entirely rely upon Acts of Faith. They're able to consecrate bolters, their hand to hand weaponry and there's even holy promethium that isn't represented. I'd love to see options in that vein that allows for decent hand to hand without changing the base statline too much, but by giving interesting new melee weaponry out to new squads.. Maybe go the crusader route where they are armed with shields and can protect nearby squads.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
I kind of want missionaries with loud hailers that's able to tune them up into pseudo sonic weapons. If those things can reach near hundreds to thousands of people in a huge area, I really want to see it turned up to max when enemies are near. Though not too sure how fitting it'd look in the army proper.

How would you explain it not hurting nearby allies?

Personally what I'd love to see if some thing that's already present in the background to be translated to insane weaponry: Ecclesiarchal love for reliquaries/remains of long-dead saints. Something along a 40k version of the WFB Grail Reliquae:

Replace, or even better, supplement the crazy unwashed frateris militia with crazy expensive archeo-technology with antigrav stuff and force fields, and you get your fighting skeleton that isn't technically an undead .

 Revarien wrote:
7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.

I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.

I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!

Same here. Sisters were the first army I bought, way back in 2nd edition. I switched to Marines in 3rd edition and spent probably $600 on models, but what I wanted to spend that money on was new Sisters. Close to $800 on Tyranids in 4th, because i wanted to keep playing. But what I really wanted was Sisters, eventually I realized GW wasn't just about to release them, so I left. Since then I've probably spent a few thousand dollars on games that actually give me what I want. That money could have been GWs. These days my gaming budget isn't very big, and while i'm super excited for new Sisters, I doubt I'll be able to buy much.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
I kind of want missionaries with loud hailers that's able to tune them up into pseudo sonic weapons. If those things can reach near hundreds to thousands of people in a huge area, I really want to see it turned up to max when enemies are near. Though not too sure how fitting it'd look in the army proper.

How would you explain it not hurting nearby allies?

Personally what I'd love to see if some thing that's already present in the background to be translated to insane weaponry: Ecclesiarchal love for reliquaries/remains of long-dead saints. Something along a 40k version of the WFB Grail Reliquae:

Spoiler:

Replace, or even better, supplement the crazy unwashed frateris militia with crazy expensive archeo-technology with antigrav stuff and force fields, and you get your fighting skeleton that isn't technically an undead .

Because they are emboldened through faith! Nah I wouldn't know how to explain it.

But yeah, the old idea of having a dedicated group just holding an entire box containing a single finger or head of a saint would be nice to bring back.

 jake wrote:

 Revarien wrote:
7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.

I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.

I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!

Same here. Sisters were the first army I bought, way back in 2nd edition. I switched to Marines in 3rd edition and spent probably $600 on models, but what I wanted to spend that money on was new Sisters. Close to $800 on Tyranids in 4th, because i wanted to keep playing. But what I really wanted was Sisters, eventually I realized GW wasn't just about to release them, so I left. Since then I've probably spent a few thousand dollars on games that actually give me what I want. That money could have been GWs. These days my gaming budget isn't very big, and while i'm super excited for new Sisters, I doubt I'll be able to buy much.

Buy small and build up slowly over time? You don't need $1k worth of figures right out of the gate (or $800 or $600 or whatever). Unless you can build and paint at the speeds of GMM studios that huge purchase of minis would just become one big plastic pile of shame. Buy a box at a time and enjoy the fact that you are getting something now that you've wanted for years.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Micron pens are indeed great. They're my little secret for purity seals, scrollwork, and eyes.

For a tattoo on skin I think the best way to do it would be to dilute the colour a bit by applying the pen before the last, lightest fleshtone that would go on that surface.

I'd echo everything here about micron pens. I think the tattoos might even look fine if you just do them before the last wash. Don't try to write with them over gloss or semi-gloss though, it won't work.

 Revarien wrote:
7years ago (and through all this time) I was prepared to drop 1k on a new Sisters army if they came out in plastic.

I'm now married, have a house, have a kid on the way (wife is due in the next couple of weeks), and I HIGHLY doubt I'll drop that on them.

I might pick up a box purely for edification, but god damn they missed the boat on some people. Surely not everyone that played then is still in a place that they haven't moved on? Like... the model is nice and beautiful, but where the hell was this 5-6 years ago?!

I would have collected a sisters army ten years ago but nowadays there isn´t time left for such a commitment. So I will just purchase the cover art mini and be done with it.