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The Last Jedi” is absolutely the “Star Wars” film we deserved and didn’t expect. The prequels, stand alone “story” films and even the animated series considered canon are a frustratingly repetitious and revisionist cycle. “The Last Jedi” is not a crude predictable entry to the series; Rian Johnson has delivered a luminous spark that’s left the future of the franchise looking bright.
So Subversive and visionary - yep. Do I agree Hell no.
...that almost reads like a satire. I'm not kidding. It has to be a joke. That's got to be a troll post.
I stay away from 'professional' critics of anything because I've found they thrive on too much negativity and tend to serve as 'advertisements' more than reviewers... so this could very well be authentic for all I know.
Its real :(
here is another that beggars belief in a 2 minute search.
The Last Jedi tackles the bigger questions that the morally sure previous entries did not. The Light and Dark side become shades of grey; good and evil become subjective. It keeps you guessing more than Return of the Jedi ever did, and offers a more convincing argument than Revenge of the Sith. The profits of war is a surprising new theme for the series, giving an intellectual depth rarely seen in blockbuster cinema outside of Nolan
It is the best and most innovative Star Wars film to come along in a long time and you would think that this would inspire celebration in the streets among longtime fans of the franchise.
The Last Jedi" is not a crude predictable entry to the series; Rian Johnson has delivered a luminous spark that's left the future of the franchise looking bright.
Looks like Disney even told them what hackneyed phrases to spout.
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
here is another that beggars belief in a 2 minute search.
The Last Jedi tackles the bigger questions that the morally sure previous entries did not. The Light and Dark side become shades of grey; good and evil become subjective. It keeps you guessing more than Return of the Jedi ever did, and offers a more convincing argument than Revenge of the Sith. The profits of war is a surprising new theme for the series, giving an intellectual depth rarely seen in blockbuster cinema outside of Nolan
Except it really didn't... if anything ever did this well, it was KOTOR 2. And the 'war profit' thing... I mean, yeah I guess so but I'm pretty sure in a Galaxy where there's an Authoritarian Fascist regime led by evil Space Wizards making weapons is a pretty crucial thing if you don't want them to be the boss. You can't just hand everyone a squad of Ewoks and say, "Go get 'em, tiger!"
And yeah, some of those lines look repeated. Not that we haven't seen that before...
I think I have the perfect example to demonstrate the problems with the character(s) we're talking about. I don't know how familiar you are with comics, so I'm not trying to insult your knowledge here, but bare with me.
Two Superheroes, both INSANELY powerful- yet one is a better character than the other, by all standards of criticism. Those characters are Superman and Sentry.
Sentry is a Marvel character that was some guy who thought he could get high on some juice he found in a lab. It turned him into a hero with 'the power of a thousand exploding suns'. He suddenly manifested in the comics out of nowhere. Everyone in the Marvel Universe was like, "Oh yeah, Sentry, that guy" like he'd been there since the beginning and his existence and abilities were just common knowledge. He does have flaws, but they are kind of lame in comparison to what he is (He has some pretty severe mental issues and they are completely invalidated the moment he turns into Sentry). He literally ripped the God of War in half like it was nothing, a God that's give a lot of the most powerful MU characters a run for their money. He manages to show up and be a Deus Ex Machina whenever he is in comics- because Marvel still has a handful of talented writers on board that know he needs to be kept far the hell away from any normal story because he's so godlike that it makes the threat almost pointless. He's pretty much one of the most hated characters in comics, and that's saying something considering the current era. He COULD be really good, but it'd take a LOT of work and development, and quite frankly it's probably too late for that.
Superman is just as powerful. He got his powers because something something something Krypton and Earth's Yellow Sun. If he were introduced later, most of us would loathe him as much as we loathe Sentry. But writers have taken the time over the years to try and smooth him out and make him more relatable (sometimes it sucks, though). He has his flaws now- he sometimes struggles to make the right decision. He sees great potential in humans and is in awe of the things they achieve, and sometimes fears that they might end up like the Kryptonians if they don't change their ways. He struggles between 'inspiration' and 'guiding light' because the latter often makes him feel as if he's stepping too close to being a god or leader and it cheapens mankind's achievements. He had to master not crushing someone's hand, not slapping a bad guy into wet pulp, and not tearing doors off the hinges- which would be like handling a robin's eggshell in a dune buggy while on PCP. He's vulnerable to magic, so even chain-smoking Johnny 'Conjob' Constantine could shut him down with a few words. He may be awe-inspiring as Superman, but a lot of his geeky nerd side as Clark Kent is 100% awkward sheltered farm-boy and it's authentic. He fails- A LOT, in fact he got punked out during No Man's Land because all the super-powers in the world couldn't manage that crisis and literally no one gave a damn that Superman was there, because he couldn't work a water filter or make food grow- they actually ran past Superman to the guy who knew how to work a water pump and fell in line to follow HIM.
In the end, people are going to appreciate a character that struggles. The one that falls on his face. The one that screws up. He can go and splatter a billion bad guys and do awesome stuff but if he's given a proper background to support him and you see the human side- that side that screws up, makes a selfish decision, embarasses himself- but grows from it... then you have a likeable, enjoyable, fun character with enough depth to seem like a bit more than a list of abilities.
We have VERY different takes on the Sentry.
Sentry's introduction was a commentary on how things get constantly retconned in the comics. He was retroactively always a part of the Marvel universe in a way that the readers themselves could kind of be a part of. The reason nobody knew about him was some shenanigans with Reed Richards and Dr Strange wiping memories and erasing him from history because of his madness. When he reappeared it was because something triggered his reemergence and that trigger broke the spell/science that kept him forgotten and his powers locked away.
His characters ark is done. There is no Sentry in the comics now and hasn't been since the Siege story line when his other personality went full on berserk (forgot it's name) and everyone had to go full on to stop him at Asgaurd floating over the midwest. It ended the Dark Avengers/Norman Osborn in charge era and kicked off the Heroic Age.
The Sentry I feel is a very well fleshed out character. Much like Deadpool, his conflicts are not about power. Deadpool can ultimately beat anyone because his healing is so extreme that nobody can actually stop him. But thats not important because Deadpools real conflicts are personal. It's man vs himself rather than man vs other. The Sentry is a guy who lives in fear of the sheer power he has. He's never fully utilized it because its so vast. He KIND of starts to when he fought the Hulk at the end of WWHulk. His mental instability along with his fear makes him a prime candidate for man vs himself. And when he shows up in other stories it's often him being manipulated because of his insecurities and fears.
Superman on the other hand had to be fully remade 3 whole times in the comics to adjust his power set and power level because that character is full on out of control. Did you know that until Crisis on Infinite Earths (published in the mid 80s) superman could sneeze and wipe out entire solar systems and from his hand he could spawn a smaller superman with all his powers which could in turn spawn a smaller superman with all his power etc etc like some kind of mad god Russian nesting doll? Superman has had to go through so many iterations over so many years to experience any kind of growth. They keep resetting him and then he just learns the same lessons over and over because once he decides to be a good person hes got nothing else to actually learn. This is MOSTLY a problem of DC rebooting their entire universe every 6 months at this point. But it's not ONLY because of that. Superman is ultimately a kind of boring character. In terms of external conflict he can only be stopped by magic or green rocks. That doesn't provide for very much variety in external villains. And he's not insane or unstable or insecure enough to be manipulated like Sentry is. You would never see classic superman working for Lex Luther because he legit thinks it's the right thing to do but thats exactly what we got out of Sentry with Norman Osborne. Which makes for an interesting conflict for everyone else caught up in the world Norman was building. The most interesting versions of Superman are the non canonical ones like Red Son.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
The Last Jedi” is absolutely the “Star Wars” film we deserved and didn’t expect. The prequels, stand alone “story” films and even the animated series considered canon are a frustratingly repetitious and revisionist cycle. “The Last Jedi” is not a crude predictable entry to the series; Rian Johnson has delivered a luminous spark that’s left the future of the franchise looking bright.
So Subversive and visionary - yep. Do I agree Hell no.
...that almost reads like a satire. I'm not kidding. It has to be a joke. That's got to be a troll post.
I stay away from 'professional' critics of anything because I've found they thrive on too much negativity and tend to serve as 'advertisements' more than reviewers... so this could very well be authentic for all I know.
Its real :(
here is another that beggars belief in a 2 minute search.
The Last Jedi tackles the bigger questions that the morally sure previous entries did not. The Light and Dark side become shades of grey; good and evil become subjective. It keeps you guessing more than Return of the Jedi ever did, and offers a more convincing argument than Revenge of the Sith. The profits of war is a surprising new theme for the series, giving an intellectual depth rarely seen in blockbuster cinema outside of Nolan
It is the best and most innovative Star Wars film to come along in a long time and you would think that this would inspire celebration in the streets among longtime fans of the franchise.
The Last Jedi" is not a crude predictable entry to the series; Rian Johnson has delivered a luminous spark that's left the future of the franchise looking bright.
Looks like Disney even told them what hackneyed phrases to spout.
Funny that Disney didn’t pay the critics to like Solo more then
It’s just laughable that some people can’t accept that their opinion isn’t the definitive truth and that if film critics gave a film they didn’t like a positive review ... well, they must have been bribed. I wonder who bribes the critics to give poor reviews to films I like?
Adeptus Doritos wrote: Okay, you're missing the point. This is not about what you like or how many times it's been retconned. This is about developing characters.
I got the point. And I answered it with your example and it's easy to see how you and I view the characters differently. Superman has never been developed through an organic story. He has had his slate wiped clean and rebooted. The Sentry has had to grow and develop with the sheer volume of power that he has.You look at 2 characters with vast amounts of power and pointed towards the one that has developed the least but also in the exactly same way over and over always to the end up in the same place and always to be rewound back to the same starting point, as an example of good character development.
I argued that the Sentry had far superior character development and it wasn't because he was incredibly powerful.
Rey, like Sentry or Superman (but to a vastly smaller degree) is not about her external conflicts. It's not about her in a sword fight. It's not about her doing CGI flips. Rey's interesting conflicts are internal and personal.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Lance845 wrote: Rey's interesting conflicts are internal and personal.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree because it seems we have polar opposite ideas about what 'good' is and I feel like I'm getting nowhere with making you understand.
Funny that Disney didn’t pay the critics to like Solo more then
It’s just laughable that some people can’t accept that their opinion isn’t the definitive truth and that if film critics gave a film they didn’t like a positive review ... well, they must have been bribed. I wonder who bribes the critics to give poor reviews to films I like?
Solo wasn't nearly as big of a turd and didn't need the skids greased. Big difference between a spinoff doing 'meh' and your main continuity saga getting bad reviews.
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How the feth did Disney know TLJ was such a load of gak that it would need world-wide illegal bribing of professional critics to shill it to the point of success that all trufans recognised it as turdeverest but in the end it got almost 70% from over half a mill of public reviews including all the turd birds?
Lance845 wrote: Rey's interesting conflicts are internal and personal.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree because it seems we have polar opposite ideas about what 'good' is and I feel like I'm getting nowhere with making you understand.
Appears to be true. There is nothing for you to make me understand. You like characters with failings that have interesting external conflicts. I don't have a problem with characters whos most compelling conflicts are internal. We don't have to like the same things.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Kilkrazy wrote: How the feth did Disney know TLJ was such a load of gak that it would need world-wide illegal bribing of professional critics to shill it to the point of success that all trufans recognised it as turdeverest but in the end it got almost 70% from over half a mill of public reviews including all the turd birds?
A better question is if they didn't- how that could have been possible. I'm not sure how, upon looking at the end product, one couldn't realize that it was a turd.
I don't know, maybe the epiphany struck them somewhere during the editing process.
Also, 'illegal bribe'? Not sure you realize how this professional critic/reviewer gig works. Your job is to review movies- and you must be among the first. Review something too negatively and you lose that next ticket to the early showing. That hurts your livelihood. Or can kill it.
That's why 'professional' critics aren't credible to me.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Or the whole ‘all positive reviews were shills’ is baseless nonesense?
Mostly because it’s baseless nonsense.
Has it ever occurred to you that different people enjoy different things?
Careful with that Hyperbole Drive.
Yes, people enjoy different things. I'm fully aware of this. At no point did I say 'all positive reviews'. But I am saying critics are less likely to give the movie an honest review. If that's 'baseless nonsense', then I'm not sure what planet you live on but it needs to meet the Death Star before that sort of madness spreads to a planet with decent folks.
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The Last Jedi” is absolutely the “Star Wars” film we deserved and didn’t expect. The prequels, stand alone “story” films and even the animated series considered canon are a frustratingly repetitious and revisionist cycle. “The Last Jedi” is not a crude predictable entry to the series; Rian Johnson has delivered a luminous spark that’s left the future of the franchise looking bright.
So Subversive and visionary - yep. Do I agree Hell no.
...that almost reads like a satire. I'm not kidding. It has to be a joke. That's got to be a troll post.
I stay away from 'professional' critics of anything because I've found they thrive on too much negativity and tend to serve as 'advertisements' more than reviewers... so this could very well be authentic for all I know.
Its real :(
here is another that beggars belief in a 2 minute search.
The Last Jedi tackles the bigger questions that the morally sure previous entries did not. The Light and Dark side become shades of grey; good and evil become subjective. It keeps you guessing more than Return of the Jedi ever did, and offers a more convincing argument than Revenge of the Sith. The profits of war is a surprising new theme for the series, giving an intellectual depth rarely seen in blockbuster cinema outside of Nolan
It is the best and most innovative Star Wars film to come along in a long time and you would think that this would inspire celebration in the streets among longtime fans of the franchise.
The Last Jedi" is not a crude predictable entry to the series; Rian Johnson has delivered a luminous spark that's left the future of the franchise looking bright.
Looks like Disney even told them what hackneyed phrases to spout.
Funny that Disney didn’t pay the critics to like Solo more then
It’s just laughable that some people can’t accept that their opinion isn’t the definitive truth and that if film critics gave a film they didn’t like a positive review ... well, they must have been bribed. I wonder who bribes the critics to give poor reviews to films I like?
Just making sure you all see that because the stupid is very strong in this thread haha.
Maybe... just maybe..... emphasising MAYBE!!!!! they didnt try it this time because it was so obvious last time, kind of a "gak, we got caught out, lets not try that again lads"
Hey, even if you're not an actual 'professional critic'- you have to be careful about how you criticize things. You could end up, say, having a programmer working at a AAA game studio mock you after you die of cancer.
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The user scores had a large disparity with the Critics scores, ignore rotten tomatoes for a second, even other sites had a large disparity.
So given the large disparity it is quite reasonable, nay Expected!! That people would get suspicious of the numbers, what has caused those critic reviews to be so... wrong? For lack of a better word, well some think bribes, others think favours, yet more believe that it’s a by product of the industry and making a living from writing reviews professionally, what is for certain though, the critics are out of touch with the audience IN THIS CASE.
Formosa wrote: So given the large disparity it is quite reasonable, nay Expected!! That people would get suspicious of the numbers, what has caused those critic reviews to be so... wrong? For lack of a better word, well some think bribes, others think favours, yet more believe that it’s a by product of the industry and making a living from writing reviews professionally, what is for certain though, the critics are out of touch with the audience IN THIS CASE.
I lived with a friend who reviewed fishing equipment, he had a site online he wrote for and everything. So, when they had new products- they sent them to him before they went out on the market for the general public. He made his 'clicks' by having this product first, and giving a review for something. And, he got new free stuff. But, if he gave a harsh review- that company wouldn't send him stuff any more... which hurt his clicks. Which hurt his income. So he was constantly struggling for a nice way to say 'this reel sucks'... and many times, couldn't be completely honest. Otherwise, he wouldn't get new shinies and he'd lose his reviewing job.
Crimson Devil wrote: So you're upset Holdo didn't share her plans with a reckless pilot recently demoted by Holdo's superior officer? If it had been anyone other than Leia, Poe would've been in the brig or out the airlock.
For what? Leading a successful (if costly) attack on an enemy capital ship that would have wiped out the fleet before it left orbit that they utterly failed to stop by issuing a recall order on the bombers ?
If Poe is a failure for leading the attack from the front, Leia and Ackbar fail by not issuing recall orders... or just skipping off into hyperspace and leaving Poe to face the New Order alone.
That's yet another severe plot hole in this movie - if Poe really was wrong, Leia and Ackbar could easily have overridden his orders. And there's no sign they even tried.
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Earth127 wrote: Holdo's plan would have succeeded if it didn't leek to the first order. The transports were cloacked. And untill DJ told the first order to run a scan they didn't.
Holdo's sacrifice had a purpose. It prevented the Raddus's long range guns from continuing to fire on the resistance transports. Rey's fight in the throne room was not involved.
If you wanna critice the movie fine. But don't ignore parts of it to do so.
Then don't ignore the part where DJ was only there BECAUSE Holdo didn't share her plan with Poe. If Poe had been given any hope at all that Holdo actually had a plan, he would not have sent Finn and Rose off in the first place, they never meet DJ, and he can't spill the beans to the New Order.
People like you keep saying this, but honestly the majority of "if you see problems with it you're a bigot" mentions have come from the anti-SJW crowd complaining about "some people" saying it. Many people have accurately pointed out that there has been sexist/racist/etc criticism of the movie, but I haven't seen anyone argue that criticizing it for, say, having poor pacing or plot holes means that you're stupid or a bigot.
Aside from Kathleen Kennedy, J.J. Abrams, and Rian Johnson?
Oh, yes, they did indeed go there. It's a big part of WHY the backlash to TLJ has been so severe; this whole 'the movie was brilliant and if you don't like it you're a bigot' originated with their responses to criticism of the movie on social media.
EDIT: Having since read the discussion over 'did he/didn't he' the past few pages... nevermind.
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The Last Jedi” is absolutely the “Star Wars” film we deserved and didn’t expect. The prequels, stand alone “story” films and even the animated series considered canon are a frustratingly repetitious and revisionist cycle. “The Last Jedi” is not a crude predictable entry to the series; Rian Johnson has delivered a luminous spark that’s left the future of the franchise looking bright.
So Subversive and visionary - yep. Do I agree Hell no.
...that almost reads like a satire. I'm not kidding. It has to be a joke. That's got to be a troll post.
I stay away from 'professional' critics of anything because I've found they thrive on too much negativity and tend to serve as 'advertisements' more than reviewers... so this could very well be authentic for all I know.
Its real :(
here is another that beggars belief in a 2 minute search.
The Last Jedi tackles the bigger questions that the morally sure previous entries did not. The Light and Dark side become shades of grey; good and evil become subjective. It keeps you guessing more than Return of the Jedi ever did, and offers a more convincing argument than Revenge of the Sith. The profits of war is a surprising new theme for the series, giving an intellectual depth rarely seen in blockbuster cinema outside of Nolan
It is the best and most innovative Star Wars film to come along in a long time and you would think that this would inspire celebration in the streets among longtime fans of the franchise.
The Last Jedi" is not a crude predictable entry to the series; Rian Johnson has delivered a luminous spark that's left the future of the franchise looking bright.
Looks like Disney even told them what hackneyed phrases to spout.
Funny that Disney didn’t pay the critics to like Solo more then
It’s just laughable that some people can’t accept that their opinion isn’t the definitive truth and that if film critics gave a film they didn’t like a positive review ... well, they must have been bribed. I wonder who bribes the critics to give poor reviews to films I like?
Just making sure you all see that because the stupid is very strong in this thread haha.
Maybe... just maybe..... emphasising MAYBE!!!!! they didnt try it this time because it was so obvious last time, kind of a "gak, we got caught out, lets not try that again lads"
Or, break out the tinfoil hats people, we're going on a ride
They did "bribe" the critics to make sure TLJ got high reviews because they learned after ghostbusters that feminism and SJW politics in films don't sell. So they hype up TLJ but not solo. They want solo to bomb, it was barely advertised, and after it bombs they can go see, nobody cares about these cis white guys in star wars, so let's just concentrate on our female driven story lines, look what great reviews they got. When we see 9's reviews come out, if it's up in the 90's again, this conspiracy theory will gain a lot more traction.
Other movies, the reviews are not as important a good story will draw in the crowds, but when you're selling politics over a story, the story fails and less people want to see it. And as we also saw with ghostbusters, if you have the critics on your side you can blame the movies falure on misogony. Yes TLJ did well raking in the cash, but it could have gotten a lot more with a better story.
there's many ways to ensure good reviews, just ask the LA times what happens when they upset the mouse. They got banned from all disney screenings, thus reminding critics to be nice, or get cut off.
2018/05/29 02:00:31
Subject: Re:Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Reconsidered?
jeff white wrote: In every 'entertainment' industry arm from the West, there has been a rather rapid decline with some exceptions few and very far between. I mean, in fact, I have not simply given up on movies, music, and television. The culture is corrupted from top to bottom with so little redeeming that there are simply no good stories left to tell.
“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”
― Socrates
The truth here is not the same old complaints about how culture is in decline, complaints that have been made for literally thousands of years, it's that we have a biased view of the past. When you look back at movies/music/etc from decades ago you only see the good stuff, because that's all anybody bothers to preserve. You see the classic movies that everyone praises and encourages their friends to watch. You hear the best songs that make it onto radio playlists. Etc. You don't see all the mediocre and awful stuff that was mercifully forgotten. And so you forget that back then 90% of movies/music/etc were trash and people were busy complaining about how bad everything is compared to the good old days. Just like people 50 years from now will be nostalgic for 2018 and a time when entertainment didn't suck, while boasting about how they've given up on modern stuff.
Remember the context of Socrates' statement. It was the height of the Golden Age of Hellenistic culture, and they fell from those heights within the next couple generations, and from then to now they never achieved anything like that cultural height and power again.
America is at the height of it's power, and that very same statement could be made about my generation (GenX) and the millennials. We don't have more than one, maybe two generations to turn things around or we're going to follow the Hellenisti into the scrap-heap of history.
sirlynchmob wrote: TLJ is a clear example at how to fail at telling a compelling story. There's no point in having a diverse cast if you cast them in sterotypical roles and don't give them depth as a character.
I didn't think Finn was stereotypical.
What are you talking about? He's the very essence of the 'comic relief token black guy' we've seen over and over again. He's a walking, talking stereotype and the actor deserves a HECK of a lot better.
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Crimson Devil wrote: So you're upset Holdo didn't share her plans with a reckless pilot recently demoted by Holdo's superior officer? If it had been anyone other than Leia, Poe would've been in the brig or out the airlock.
For what? Leading a successful (if costly) attack on an enemy capital ship that would have wiped out the fleet before it left orbit that they utterly failed to stop by issuing a recall order on the bombers ?
If Poe is a failure for leading the attack from the front, Leia and Ackbar fail by not issuing recall orders... or just skipping off into hyperspace and leaving Poe to face the New Order alone.
That's yet another severe plot hole in this movie - if Poe really was wrong, Leia and Ackbar could easily have overridden his orders. And there's no sign they even tried.
The Fleet could have left as soon at the last transport reached the fleet. They had plenty of time to leave if Poe had returned. The Dreadnought fired at the base 6:12 minutes in. The last transport reaches the fleet and Leia orders Poe back. But he ignores her and turn off his com. At 7:40 the bombers arrive. At 10:30 the Dreadnought is ready to fire again, but gets blown up.
Seriously did any of you guys actually watch the film?
Of course, if anyone in the FO, was competent, they would have scrambled all their TIE fighters and the cruisers would have been screening the dreadnaught from the start.
Hux ordered Canady not to do that. Hence the "We need to scramble our fighters", "Five bloody minutes ago." Hux didn't want his propaganda vid/ victory parade looking bad. It's quickly adressed in the movie Snoke prefers not to have a too competent general in charge of the first order military because he can manipulate Hux easily.
Professional critics like different things than audiences do. A consequence of seeing so many movies. You start to see the patterns so a movie that toys with them is refreshing. Most proffesional critics had the same criticisms you guys have with the movie tough. Why didn't Holdo share her plan, why is every military leader and engineer in the gallaxy incompetent, why didn't Holdo share her plan, the casino was pointless, the moviue had pacing issues,..
BTW I think all of these are genuine issues. Including Holdo not sharing her plan. But to say that is a worse sin than mutiny? Yeah I disagree.
Also there was a lot of genuinely racist and sexist pushback against TLJ. (and the TFA for that matter). Hence the quote in the earlier interview with JJ Abrams: "If you are used to a position of privilege even equality feels like discrimination." Even tough it only comes from a small minority, it sure is a loud one. Reminds me about something I hear and notice regularly (especially of the internet here in Belgium.). I hear more rightwing complaints about the left complaining than I do the actual left complaints.
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J.J. Abrams is one of the most privileged people on this planet. He is a leader in an industry infamous for sordid exploitation, including sexual predation of countless women. There is literally no difference between citing J.J. Abrams or Kathleen Kennedy on equlity and diversity and citing a CGI gecko on how you can save a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to Geico.
The reason studios pay marketing agencies to magnify and rebroadcast absurd racist and misogynistic views, which on their own would be ignored as silly and pathetic, is to shift how people talk about their films. Rather than deal with the product's flaws, they would much rather have the narrative be about how stupid bigots are the ones who don't like their movies. The idea is to connect not liking the film to being a terrible person. This is not a conspiracy. Thanks to the Sony hack, we know this is literally the strategy.
TLJ is a fething disaster of a movie. It has nothing to do with the gender or race of the actors involved, It has everything to do with the horrid script, unimaginative directing, and bland production design. The script features elements clearly inspired by gender politics, however - to the point where at least two major strands of the plot are entirely built around it. Two otherwise unnecessary female characters are invented for the sole purpose of undermining two existing male characters. Once this mission is accomplished, they are either killed off or incapacitated. They literally serve no other purpose.
I'm really worried about the horrible direction Star Wars has taken in merchandising. I haven't seen any plushies of the cat-horses or crystal foxes anywhere.
Funko makes a Vulptex. I suppose all tye crystal is hard to render into plushie form. There are plushie fathiers already, of course. As to why you may not have seen either, TLJ merch hasn't been doing super well apparently.
