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Lol

It's obvious that it is not a hijab.

While it would absolutely makes no sense setting-wise, it would be great just for seeing the anti-muslims/arabs bigots lose their mind over it

Why would it make no sense to wear a covering garment?

 Galas wrote:
(The only extrange thing I have saw about this is people saying the girl with the slingshot in the Sigmar one has a hiyab... but then in her character draw in the information section she doesn't wear it... I'm the only one that saw her and first thought "ah, thats a hood"? I'm too inocent?)

Sounds like the perpetual far-right outrage machine is running at full speed .
And no you aren't too innocent. You are normal.

 Commissar Benny wrote:
Its has no visibility, which is why most of its community is older. A comic book isn't going to resolve that.

Introducing people to the universe through fiction, and then pointing out to them that there's a game set in that universe they're enjoying reading about is a viable marketing tactic. It's just a slightly smaller scale (and exponentially cheaper) version of what toy manufacturers have been doing with kids' cartoons since the 80s.

The glory days of retail stores are gone. Trying to stuff the online retail genie back in the bottle is an excercise in futility, and it's good that GW seem to be finally realising that and looking for other ways to expand their brand.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Sounds like the perpetual far-right outrage machine is running at full speed .
And no you aren't too innocent. You are normal.

I see Dakka is playing 'Nazis in my cereal' again over one or two idiots on the internet.

I think it's a great idea to introduce kids into this, as it can be a rewarding hobby.

I just wonder how a bunch of kids are going to hold back the might of a black crusade, a necron army, or ork spacehulk.

Or will they show their adventures fighting a single Grot, defeating it with the power of love and friendship and knowing they 'saved the day' while in the background the orks over-ran everwhere, killing everyone.

And what happens the day they run into a daemonette? Or flayed one? or any of the horrific things that 40k/fantasy can provide?

 Commissar Benny wrote:
Anyone who raise issue with this new installment or its fit with the 40k narrative, is immediately deemed "alt-right, white supremacist nazis, who are anti-diversity & hate children". I wish that was satire.

It's the go-to screech for anyone who doesn't have an actual argument. Losers need a boogeyman, you see.

I don't see 'issues' with the books at all. I think it's kind of funny, if I am being honest- but otherwise, no. Just a silly idea, something that no one asked for but maybe a few people will see their kids enjoy it. Like I said- buy the book for your kid, get him some snap-fit Primaris Marines, paint models together... not a bad thing at all.

Now granted, some people on a certain facebook page are claiming this is a victory and 'the end of muh white male 40k'- but those people are generally stupid, and of course they'd see a dumbed-down childrens' book with anti-violence themes as a 'victory'. And we both know that's not going to be the future of the main 40k Universe. Let them embrace a child's book- right on their level.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I see Dakka is playing 'Nazis in my cereal' again over one or two idiots on the internet.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
It's the go-to screech for anyone who doesn't have an actual argument. [...]
Now granted, some people on a certain facebook page are claiming this is a victory and 'the end of muh white male 40k'- but those people are generally stupid, and of course they'd see a dumbed-down childrens' book with anti-violence themes as a 'victory'. And we both know that's not going to be the future of the main 40k Universe. Let them embrace a child's book- right on their level.

It's magic!!!

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

Now granted, some people on a certain facebook page are claiming this is a victory and 'the end of muh white male 40k'- but those people are generally stupid, and of course they'd see a dumbed-down childrens' book with anti-violence themes as a 'victory'. And we both know that's not going to be the future of the main 40k Universe. Let them embrace a child's book- right on their level.

I heard the next Horus Heresy big book is about White Scars. If anyone thought toy soldiers cant be any more white supremacists nazi here is the proof.

Glumy wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

Now granted, some people on a certain facebook page are claiming this is a victory and 'the end of muh white male 40k'- but those people are generally stupid, and of course they'd see a dumbed-down childrens' book with anti-violence themes as a 'victory'. And we both know that's not going to be the future of the main 40k Universe. Let them embrace a child's book- right on their level.

I heard the next Horus Heresy big book is about White Scars. If anyone thought toy soldiers cant be any more white supremacists nazi here is the proof.

I'm not sure I understand. You know the background and what the White Scars are based on right?

Thebiggesthat wrote:

I'm not sure I understand. You know the background and what the White Scars are based on right?

Hmm... Its actually a good thing you dont. We are living in a world where facts dont matter anyway. Embrace it! Embrace the chaos and start fighting with other people over trival things you think are important.

Thebiggesthat wrote:

Glumy wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

Now granted, some people on a certain facebook page are claiming this is a victory and 'the end of muh white male 40k'- but those people are generally stupid, and of course they'd see a dumbed-down childrens' book with anti-violence themes as a 'victory'. And we both know that's not going to be the future of the main 40k Universe. Let them embrace a child's book- right on their level.

I heard the next Horus Heresy big book is about White Scars. If anyone thought toy soldiers cant be any more white supremacists nazi here is the proof.

I'm not sure I understand. You know the background and what the White Scars are based on right?

He's taking the piss.
They have white in the name, ergo they are nazis.
As jokes go, its not great. 2/10, would not lol.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Sounds like the perpetual far-right outrage machine is running at full speed .
And no you aren't too innocent. You are normal.

I see Dakka is playing 'Nazis in my cereal' again over one or two idiots on the internet.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that it was something many people has said. I just read a bunch of random people talking about that, and it mentioned in a video of Arch-Warhammer. I pointed it out because it didn't even crossed my mind it could be a hiyab until that. My first impresion was "Shes the kind of sthealty girl, thats a hood".

(Now, I would say, being born in Aqshy, the realm of fire, I wouldn't had a problem with it being a hijab or other kind of similar dessert clothes. I have made my khorne barbarians of brown skin and bone armour for that same reason)

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

It's magic!!!

Not sure what your point is. There are two extremes of idiots on this argument. That's quite obvious.


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 Galas wrote:


Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that it was something many people has said. I just read a bunch of random people talking about that, and it mentioned in a video of Arch-Warhammer. I pointed it out because it didn't even crossed my mind it could be a hiyab until that. My first impresion was "Shes the kind of sthealty girl, thats a hood".

Oh, no- that is what I thought. Arch and Hamblin are being fools over this.

I remember times where people were discussing the lack of greatcoat guardsmen when it comes to clothes. I think the first rumour were on the old Portent forums.

Today people are discussing if the hood on a cover of Warhammer children book is a hijab. Didnt cross my mind untill i read it but i have a pretty awful imagination.

Glumy wrote:
I remember times where people were discussing the lack of greatcoat guardsmen when it comes to clothes. I think the first rumour were on the old Portent forums.

Today people are discussing if the hood on a cover of Warhammer children book is a hijab. Didnt cross my mind untill i read it but i have a pretty awful imagination.

It could be one and still fit. In fact, I want a Stormcast with a Hijab. And a Shemagh on a Space Marine. And Arab coffee, because why not?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:

Glumy wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

Now granted, some people on a certain facebook page are claiming this is a victory and 'the end of muh white male 40k'- but those people are generally stupid, and of course they'd see a dumbed-down childrens' book with anti-violence themes as a 'victory'. And we both know that's not going to be the future of the main 40k Universe. Let them embrace a child's book- right on their level.

I heard the next Horus Heresy big book is about White Scars. If anyone thought toy soldiers cant be any more white supremacists nazi here is the proof.

I'm not sure I understand. You know the background and what the White Scars are based on right?

He's taking the piss.
They have white in the name, ergo they are nazis.
As jokes go, its not great. 2/10, would not lol.

Oh. Ha.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

Glumy wrote:
I remember times where people were discussing the lack of greatcoat guardsmen when it comes to clothes. I think the first rumour were on the old Portent forums.

Today people are discussing if the hood on a cover of Warhammer children book is a hijab. Didnt cross my mind untill i read it but i have a pretty awful imagination.

It could be one and still fit. In fact, I want a Stormcast with a Hijab. And a Shemagh on a Space Marine. And Arab coffee, because why not?

Eh, why not.
I mean, Necrons with Sombreros are already a thing



And lets not forget the dwarf wearing a tophat!

I find the hijab argument almost offensive.



These are christian ladies wearing headscarfs. That kind of stuff isn't exclusive from Islamic countries but it goes to show how ignorant some people can be.

Yeah, my grandmother weared a headscarf for 30 years after my grandfather died and I can tell you she was not muslim (But I still believe it is just a normal hood)


And to be honest we are arguing about this because theres not much else to talk about until we receive more information.

So now its not a hood or hijab but a christian headscarf on the cover.

Glumy wrote:
So now its not a hood or hijab but a christian headscarf on the cover.

It is what you want to believe.

Thats the magic of Age of Sigmar!

Considering how much crap on Steam has 40k stapled to it, these books are nothing to be worried about.

Necromunda had an actual KKK-robed gang and people are worried about a head dress?

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I see Dakka is playing 'Nazis in my cereal' again over one or two idiots on the internet.

Well that's what happens when you overuse the word 'racist' until it completely loses all its meaning. There's no where else to go but escalation, which is why "White Supremacist" and "Nazi" are the norm for insults, rather than the extreme insults.

Although what is strange is how quick some are to call anyone who dislikes this a Nazi, or anit-diversity, or whatever.

What has any of this got to do with diversity? Race and gender are meaningless in 40K. All that matters are if you are human, and not a mutant/heretic/witch. If you are human and don't tick any of those three boxes, you're golden.

Some of us are against this just 'cause it's dumb! No more hidden motives than that.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Necromunda had an actual KKK-robed gang and people are worried about a head dress?

No it doesn't. It has red-hooded Redemptionists. If you think they're KKK then that's you projecting something that's not there.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Necromunda had an actual KKK-robed gang and people are worried about a head dress?

Actually the KKK took it from really old (and weird) Catholic attire- namely, something people on a penance would wear. The KKK was very Anti-Catholic and was wearing it as a sort of a middle finger to the Spanish Catholic restrictions placed on French Catholics. Yeah, I know- it doesn't make sense but it is what it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capirote

It falls in line with the Redemptionist's theme of being a bunch of extreme religious moral authoritarians, sort of a thing with a lot of the classic 40k satire.

Though I would actually laugh if someone painted them like a bunch of hillbilly klansmen.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Not sure what your point is. There are two extremes of idiots on this argument. That's quite obvious.

You seemed annoyed at us talking about one extreme but somehow decided to talk about the other one so...

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
You seemed annoyed at us talking about one extreme but somehow decided to talk about the other one so...

If the second viewpoint is 'extreme' for you, then you're probably the exact kind of extremist I was talking about.

Idiots see Nazis everywhere. The other kind of idiot sees Commies everywhere. Religious idiots see devil worship everywhere.

Idiots on every extreme part of the spectrum.

A casual observer of 40k must know how these stories end.

The ganger gets shot by a commissar for deserting the guard, if not shoved into a penal legion to slow a tyranid advance. The martian either gets disassembled for servitor components when he tries to innovate or gradually becomes less human as he purges weak organic components (like his arm, and pleasure centers)
The 'girl without fear' who carries no weapons will suffer the fate of any brave soul in a horror movie.

They cannot rise to significance in 40k without attracting the kind of attention or dangers that will bring these consequences upon them.

Edit:
I may as well throw in my 2c as to what I would have done.

Have enemy du jour overrun a world with a schola progenium. The schola is evacuated Tanith style, making the kids now mobile on a ship. They now have the narrative freedom to explore new worlds/space stations, interact with the variuous forces of the Imperium at muster points and slip the leash of their overseers when they discover treasonous plots etc.
This has the advantage of immediate emotional resonance as not all of the children's peers/friends will make it off the world (they die off screen, protecting the retreating shuttles) and gives them plenty of plot to discuss off the bat. Combined classes/tight living spaces might result in sororita inititiates forced to work with commissar cadets, ecclesiarchal neophytes etc.

Alternatively, hive kids from the mid levels, not the underhive, when Cain shows up to save the day. We the reader are shown the hypocrisy and black humour horror of the Imperium through the kids eyes but they never see it themselves. They consider Cain to be 100% the real deal and the Imperium to always have their interests at heart.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Not sure what your point is. There are two extremes of idiots on this argument. That's quite obvious.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
You seemed annoyed at us talking about one extreme but somehow decided to talk about the other one so...

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
If the second viewpoint is 'extreme' for you, then you're probably the exact kind of extremist I was talking about.

You: there are two extremes
Me: *something about the two extremes*
You: if you think there are two extremes here you must be an extremist