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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 08:16:24
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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If we don't at least get a strategem where we can disembark after the Trukk has moved, I will be very disappointed. Should maybe be an ability or special rule even, otherwise you can only do one per turn.
Can't see how Trukk boyz would ever be useful otherwise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 10:38:40
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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warhammer community wrote:This boxed set pits you against a friend in a series of death races between a variety of Orkish speedsters, including the aforementioned Kustom Boosta-blasta and the Shokkjump Dragsta – a racer that uses shokk-attack technology to project itself ahead of the competition – or just into anyone that looks like they need smashin’ up.
By the looks of it, the second buggy comes with a rokkit launcha, a plasma-looking mystery gun and a SAG-turbo boost.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 10:45:38
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Nasty Nob
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Jidmah wrote:By the looks of it, the second buggy comes with a rokkit launcha, a plasma-looking mystery gun and a SAG-turbo boost.
...and some kind of mini deffrolla. That looks way more likely to be a piece of wargear or a weapon than the little nubbins on exhaust pipes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 10:54:02
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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True, might be a close combat weapon similar to kopta blades.
Considering other armies, the attack squig on the driver seat might even be able to attack in combat
Also note how they kept the triangular noses on the new ork boyz. That's pretty much a give away that the pig-nosed orruks won't be going to space any time soon (Thanks to lolman for that observation).
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 16:11:55
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Nasty Nob
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I'm pretty sure I can spot a couple of squigs on or behind the mystery trike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 16:26:17
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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My goodness.
Is, is that Klaw also a SQUIG LAUNCHA?!!?!
These reveals are so epic.
The terrain looks brilliant. The Buggies are both great and varied. Now it looks like we're getting a legitimate Biker Boss kit?! The boss himself looks to be a unit too. This is all too awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 16:30:22
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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That drawing really helps to understand what I'm looking at, great work! I do think that the gun is "just" a dakkagun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 17:30:01
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not sure if it has been mentioned on here but the FLG podcast talked about the ork leaks. They said some lines like that these buggies (i am paraphrasing as i don't remember the exact wording) were "just the first of many new releases for orks" That everything "should be out by Christmas" (which was said with a bit of hesitation making me believe that there might be quiet a few kits that they are even doubting it will all be released by Christmas) and that "ork players patience is about to pay off".
I have a feeling that if the buggies are getting larger and closer to a true scale they are ready to do it for a bunch of the ork line. Anyway, that's the wild speculating I'm doing after listening to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 17:34:10
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Asmodios wrote:Not sure if it has been mentioned on here but the FLG podcast talked about the ork leaks. They said some lines like that these buggies (i am paraphrasing as i don't remember the exact wording) were "just the first of many new releases for orks" That everything "should be out by Christmas" (which was said with a bit of hesitation making me believe that there might be quiet a few kits that they are even doubting it will all be released by Christmas) and that "ork players patience is about to pay off".
I have a feeling that if the buggies are getting larger and closer to a true scale they are ready to do it for a bunch of the ork line. Anyway, that's the wild speculating I'm doing after listening to it.
I briefly mentioned it and timestamped it here;
You're not wrong though. His exact words were "[the new buggies] are just the tip of the iceberg". I reckon this might form part of a larger release, in which case my wallet better get the lube out for the pounding it's going to take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 17:45:25
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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An Actual Englishman wrote:Asmodios wrote:Not sure if it has been mentioned on here but the FLG podcast talked about the ork leaks. They said some lines like that these buggies (i am paraphrasing as i don't remember the exact wording) were "just the first of many new releases for orks" That everything "should be out by Christmas" (which was said with a bit of hesitation making me believe that there might be quiet a few kits that they are even doubting it will all be released by Christmas) and that "ork players patience is about to pay off".
I have a feeling that if the buggies are getting larger and closer to a true scale they are ready to do it for a bunch of the ork line. Anyway, that's the wild speculating I'm doing after listening to it.
I briefly mentioned it and timestamped it here;
You're not wrong though. His exact words were "[the new buggies] are just the tip of the iceberg". I reckon this might form part of a larger release, in which case my wallet better get the lube out for the pounding it's going to take.
Well without seeing your post it looks like we had the same takeaway. While I'm so happy for ork players I'm scared if the models are too good ill have to start adding to my hundreds of fantasy goblins with futuristic boys and squids.... my wallet isn't ready
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 17:51:50
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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I don't think anyone's ready. Why didn't GW give us more time to prepare?
But seriously, I hope this ork release sells incredibly well so GW understands not only how much we as ork players appreciate the effort clearly put into these models but also that remaking old models in general is worth it.
Several races have plenty of old stuff due for an upgrade even if they knock it out of the park with orks (hopefully)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 17:56:22
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Asmodios wrote:Well without seeing your post it looks like we had the same takeaway. While I'm so happy for ork players I'm scared if the models are too good ill have to start adding to my hundreds of fantasy goblins with futuristic boys and squids.... my wallet isn't ready
Definitely, Reece was extremely positive. He always is but he was all but stating we should prepare ourselves for all the releases and that many are coming.
It's time you joined da 40k WAAAAAGGGGHHH!! ya backwards git!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 18:01:31
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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An Actual Englishman wrote:Asmodios wrote:Well without seeing your post it looks like we had the same takeaway. While I'm so happy for ork players I'm scared if the models are too good ill have to start adding to my hundreds of fantasy goblins with futuristic boys and squids.... my wallet isn't ready
Definitely, Reece was extremely positive. He always is but he was all but stating we should prepare ourselves for all the releases and that many are coming.
It's time you joined da 40k WAAAAAGGGGHHH!! ya backwards git!
I swore an oath id never paint that much green again after fantasy  these rumors are so tempting though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 18:02:29
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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An Actual Englishman wrote:
My goodness.
Is, is that Klaw also a SQUIG LAUNCHA?!!?!
These reveals are so epic.
The terrain looks brilliant. The Buggies are both great and varied. Now it looks like we're getting a legitimate Biker Boss kit?! The boss himself looks to be a unit too. This is all too awesome.
I'm going to be so poor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 18:05:14
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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PiñaColada wrote:I don't think anyone's ready. Why didn't GW give us more time to prepare?
But seriously, I hope this ork release sells incredibly well so GW understands not only how much we as ork players appreciate the effort clearly put into these models but also that remaking old models in general is worth it.
Several races have plenty of old stuff due for an upgrade even if they knock it out of the park with orks (hopefully)
I always thought the old GW way of producing stuff was weird
> I don't know guys SM just seems to outsell orks
>do you think it could be because we haven't released new orks in over a decade?
>No no it must be because people don't like orks as much
repeat that exact conversation for almost everything lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 18:36:29
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Asmodios wrote:I swore an oath id never paint that much green again after fantasy  these rumors are so tempting though
The more we spend the more kits we get gents! Show GW there's a market! I'm going to be spending a small fortune if it's any consolation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 18:50:05
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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F1 comes to 40k...
likely more interesting than the real thing, just hoping in the codex they are more than just generic "buggies" but you have a few options for the different designs that do slightly different things.
Liking both so far though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 18:50:19
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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An Actual Englishman wrote:Asmodios wrote:Well without seeing your post it looks like we had the same takeaway. While I'm so happy for ork players I'm scared if the models are too good ill have to start adding to my hundreds of fantasy goblins with futuristic boys and squids.... my wallet isn't ready
Definitely, Reece was extremely positive. He always is but he was all but stating we should prepare ourselves for all the releases and that many are coming.
It's time you joined da 40k WAAAAAGGGGHHH!! ya backwards git!
Sounds good for model release wise.
I sure hope he doesn't start to preach how awesome rules are. His track record on that is so bad I would rather have him say how BAD rules are. Then they might actually be good!
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 20:10:40
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Stinky Spore
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These images have me really stoked to build a Kult of Speed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 20:22:01
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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I really like the new buggies. I might pick one up when the codex is released, provided I clear my existing back log.
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/18 20:49:38
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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loving the models, hope this box isn't a splash though as don't have the cash currently.
Pity could easily get two or three of them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/19 01:11:40
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wonder how he can stand on the pipe barefooted. If that is racing engine exhaust, it should reach a few hundred degrees easily...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/19 03:10:50
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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That warboss/primeork is humongeuous. Primeork maybe? Hopefully atleast a new warboss model
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/19 03:18:19
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Honestly what I'm hoping for is that this Formula-One style buggy is going to be our solution for anti-tank. A bunch of speedy, fast-attack choices that are geared towards tank/monster hunting. It has missiles and a plasma weapon, so it clearly is geared towards that. I can see these coming in squadrons at a cheap enough points cost to hunt down slower, heavier vehicles- probably with some sort of outflank rule.
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"The undead ogre believes the sack of pies is your parrot, and proceeds to eat them. The pies explode, and so does his head. The way is clear." - Me, DMing what was supposed to be a serious Pathfinder campaign.
6000 - Death Skulls, Painted
2000 - Admech/Skitarii, Painted |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/19 03:34:11
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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hey, nice linework, your really selling what it could very well look like.
(posted in the speedfreeks rumors thread)
i have a theory.
they are phasing out the old warbuggy/wartrack/boss on bike models and or rules (left inside the index) and being replaced by these new buggies and that warboss looking fella in the back.
my reasoning, so far the 2 buggies we have seen are vastly different then what we have now, not only are they bigger but they are packed with unique weapons (and more then just one, the SAG version has rokets and some type of mek weapon on the front with what looks like a targeting squig). also they have their own unique names.
so i say dont hope GW will still support the old buggies and tracks, and just look forward to the new blood of green muscle cars. im at the same time hyped and a little sad. (its very much like the 1st reveal trailer with them smashing the old buggy, they are most likely doing that to some of our codex, at least the new stuff is frigging awesome)
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"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/19 03:40:04
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Vitali Advenil wrote:Honestly what I'm hoping for is that this Formula-One style buggy is going to be our solution for anti-tank. A bunch of speedy, fast-attack choices that are geared towards tank/monster hunting. It has missiles and a plasma weapon, so it clearly is geared towards that. I can see these coming in squadrons at a cheap enough points cost to hunt down slower, heavier vehicles- probably with some sort of outflank rule.
Yup, definitely our weakpoint. Would be nice to see tankbustas get bonus to MONSTERs as well as VEHICLES
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/20 04:13:07
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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welp, that seems like thats it for ork news (at least maybe until the nova), so time for unadulterated speculations.
i have suggested before that i think the 2 new buggies are not going to be actually the buggies we are used to and will instead be their own uniqgue vehicles, but i have a theory.
that 3rd yet unrevealed buggy on the box of speed freaks. i propose it might be the new actual "buggy/wartrack" that will technically replace the old buggies/wartracks and assume their profile (but most likely with tweeks). i suspect this because just looking at it shows what only looks like it has a possible bigshoota/dakka weapon and no aprerent other noticeable upgrades or dudads (unless you consider the grot strapped to the front to be a sort of wargear...more speculation is needed). this could be a very customizable kit that has at least the twin roket/bigshoota or skorcha and will have the option to add tredds. it will replace the old ones and probably be the "cheap" option when it comes to the new ork vehicles since the 2 revealed roadsters seem to be leagues more advanced then what a buggy/wartrack actually is.
so in the end with what we see from the speed freek box art and the back ground of the pic for the shockjumpah it looks like we will get both the Kustom Boosta-blasta and the Shokkjump Dragsta along with a new boss trike and a new all purpose buggie/wartrack.
even if my theory about the 3rd buggie is not correct i will just say it's most likely another type of unique buggy with its own quirks compared to the others, and even if these 3 new buggies are only maximum 3 per squad we can at least can make speed freaks lists with new trike boss accompanied by 9 deadly buggies and followed by waves of warbikers and trucks with eager boys (of coarse this all assumes that all these units will me reasonably points costed so we can field a horde of them if we wanted to).
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more speculation, the grot on the front of the 3rd buggie is a "grot shield" and will tank the 1st hit on the vehicle, because if it worked in kill team for boyz on da ground then why cant it work for our buggies
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"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/20 04:42:39
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Dakka Veteran
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Billagio wrote: Vitali Advenil wrote:Honestly what I'm hoping for is that this Formula-One style buggy is going to be our solution for anti-tank. A bunch of speedy, fast-attack choices that are geared towards tank/monster hunting. It has missiles and a plasma weapon, so it clearly is geared towards that. I can see these coming in squadrons at a cheap enough points cost to hunt down slower, heavier vehicles- probably with some sort of outflank rule.
Yup, definitely our weakpoint. Would be nice to see tankbustas get bonus to MONSTERs as well as VEHICLES
Agreed; rename the rule to "Big Game Hunters" instead of "Tank Hunters", and let them get the bonus versus other large targets.
It makes sense, and monsters often have nearly identical stat lines to tanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/20 04:53:58
Subject: Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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At least the Shokkjump Dragsta could be the same datasheet as the warbuggy, since it's pretty much a rokkit buggy with two additinal pieces of wargear.
The trike has a dakkagun on it, so it's more likely to be a new datasheet than replace the warbuggy. It might replace the wartrakk though, actually making wartrakks different from buggies..
In general, I expect the warbuggies to allow you to pick one of the ork standard weapons (big shoota, dakka gun, rokkit) and a big turret weapon plus some wargear like the SAG drive, the skorcha exhausts, the grot shield or the front grinder.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/20 05:45:41
Subject: Re:Delicious, sweet, intoxicating Ork speculation/chat
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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"posted this on another thread but is more relevant here as its speculation"
hey,maybe we will get a system like the deldar, being able to get multiple clans for cool detachments. ork fluff on waaaghs is when clans can ignore their rivalry's to band together to cromp other gits.
it would be like having our own pool of allies.
it seems Gw is more and more willing to experiment with such things with them doing the cool cabal cand covens mix matching and now the new space wolf sagas.
a cool system would be a "choose your waaaagh" that gives us back our once a game waaagh ability but gives us different variants to best suit our play styles.
dakka waaaagh (reroll all shooting?)
charging waaaaagh (extra charge dice?)
more punchy waaaagh (more atacks or better ws?)
burny waaagh (reroll all flamer hits or better rend?)
wierd waaagh (whatever this is, it would be realy weird, like tunring the enemy warlord into a squig random table stuff?
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"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket" |
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