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No changes or mention of Orks in the FAQ. Ork codex before Genestealer Cult codex confirmed

Booger ork wrote:

 Eonfuzz wrote:
Nothing about Orks in the Orktober white dwarf. Nice.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/28/28th-sept-white-dwarf-preview-octobers-issuegw-homepage-post-4/

well done geedubs

they seem to have added to it, there are now pictures of a grot themed army... its something but yea compared to other codexes nowhere near enough leaks so far. nor GW actualy previews.

LMAO! Orktober! Crap we forgot to put literally anything in White Dwarf for orkz....quick....grab a couple of pictures of some fluffy ork army and write up a 2 bit article on how they are taking over Orktober.

Well at least they remembered to put some stuff in the FAQ and erratas about Orkz right? no? well feth.

GW batting a thousand as usual

This just furthers my fears that we aren't getting our codex in October. "Orktober" could have purely been a pun on GW's part and not meant to imply a month of Ork releases. At the very least, we know the Speed Freeks game is coming out then, but that's no guarantee our codex is as well.

I've been defending the new GW so far, but I can't say I'm optimistic after seeing the WD preview. I pray to Gork I'm wrong, but I'm calling a November release for our codex.

The community team has stated that Orktober was not a lie.

So the worst thing that could happen is pre-orders up on October 31st.

 Jidmah wrote:
The community team has stated that Orktober was not a lie.

So the worst thing that could happen is pre-orders up on October 31st.

Negativity getting the better of me, it is starting to feel like GW massively screwed up on our codex and is either putting forth a rush jump or is just going to be completely screwing over a decent Codex because they thought it might be too powerful. If our codex is supposed to be released for pre-order sometime in the next 30 days I am a bit surprised we haven't had anything at all in regards to leaks or sneak previews since the "Klan" rules got leaked.

 Jidmah wrote:
The community team has stated that Orktober was not a lie.

So the worst thing that could happen is pre-orders up on October 31st.

If this is satisfactory for an "Orktober" for people, then good for them.

It isn't for me though. GW are within their rights to wait until 31st of October before allowing preorders to go up for Ork things but it would be a very, very stupid thing to do in the context of the expectations that they have, themselves, set.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
The community team has stated that Orktober was not a lie.

So the worst thing that could happen is pre-orders up on October 31st.

If this is satisfactory for an "Orktober" for people, then good for them.

It isn't for me though. GW are within their rights to wait until 31st of October before allowing preorders to go up for Ork things but it would be a very, very stupid thing to do in the context of the expectations that they have, themselves, set.

100% this. Even if their intention was never to give us our codex in October, Orks getting a codex in October is absolutely the impression they gave by confirming Orktober. With what they said, I would expect our codex to be released in October, but the pessimist in me is telling me November.

SemperMortis wrote:
LMAO! Orktober! Crap we forgot to put literally anything in White Dwarf for orkz....quick....grab a couple of pictures of some fluffy ork army and write up a 2 bit article on how they are taking over Orktober.

Well at least they remembered to put some stuff in the FAQ and erratas about Orkz right? no? well feth.

GW batting a thousand as usual

The White Dwarf highlights are on things already released. If they were pre-orders then you would have a point. But they aren't so you don't.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:
LMAO! Orktober! Crap we forgot to put literally anything in White Dwarf for orkz....quick....grab a couple of pictures of some fluffy ork army and write up a 2 bit article on how they are taking over Orktober.

Well at least they remembered to put some stuff in the FAQ and erratas about Orkz right? no? well feth.

GW batting a thousand as usual

The White Dwarf highlights are on things already released. If they were pre-orders then you would have a point. But they aren't so you don't.

September's WD had previews and news about the SW codex that hadn't been released yet.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:
LMAO! Orktober! Crap we forgot to put literally anything in White Dwarf for orkz....quick....grab a couple of pictures of some fluffy ork army and write up a 2 bit article on how they are taking over Orktober.

Well at least they remembered to put some stuff in the FAQ and erratas about Orkz right? no? well feth.

GW batting a thousand as usual

The White Dwarf highlights are on things already released. If they were pre-orders then you would have a point. But they aren't so you don't.

Most of the White Dwarfs have spotlights and battle reports with codex's that are landing that month

i expected nothing from the FAQ, if it comes out right before the codex then there is no reason to expect any faq for us, we are about to get the codex (though if i remember they have stated they do an faq after a codex release to touch up anything in the codex, or in the case of SW completely negate the codex before it came out ).

but yeah, this whole white dwarf thing is more then infuriating, but not really shocking. i can easily see GW unhyping any release that isnt "blue big marine spank", but i dont have to be happy for something for so predictable.

this is all getting to my irrational fear. now that i "know" gw is actively unhyping the orktober releases for orks then i correlate that with a type of "damage control" for a bad codex and bad rules for new models.

they cant get in trouble if they dont say "these models are going to be so awesome on the tabletop" and the models turn out to be squig dung.

geargutz wrote:
i expected nothing from the FAQ, if it comes out right before the codex then there is no reason to expect any faq for us, we are about to get the codex (though if i remember they have stated they do an faq after a codex release to touch up anything in the codex, or in the case of SW completely negate the codex before it came out ).

but yeah, this whole white dwarf thing is more then infuriating, but not really shocking. i can easily see GW unhyping any release that isnt "blue big marine spank", but i dont have to be happy for something for so predictable.

this is all getting to my irrational fear. now that i "know" gw is actively unhyping the orktober releases for orks then i correlate that with a type of "damage control" for a bad codex and bad rules for new models.

they cant get in trouble if they dont say "these models are going to be so awesome on the tabletop" and the models turn out to be squig dung.

You mean like they did with the Orkanauts? or the Wazbom Blasta Jet? or the (Insert ork release)

oh man...the wazbom blastajet...almost forgot about that one actually...and come to think of it, I have no idea what it has/does...is it any good, in any way, at all?

 ZoBo wrote:
oh man...the wazbom blastajet...almost forgot about that one actually...and come to think of it, I have no idea what it has/does...is it any good, in any way, at all?

Its 179pts fully equipped...ish, It has 2 1D3 KMKs with a different name, 2 Supa Shootas a Smasha gun and a KFF. For the kustom KMKs it rolls 2D3 (averages 4) but only hits on 5s. The Supa Shooters don't get strafing rules so they hit on 5s and the Smasha Gun can hit on 4s. The KFF is kind of useless and is basically a 20pt 5++ for the plane alone.

Basically, you could take 4 KMKs for about the same price and do a lot more damage and be more durable.

To summarize....its a piece of Gak.

yeahh, figured that'd be the case, considering how very little I've heard about it since it came out...shame, it does look cool...also, annoying, because they just decided to pack that sprue in with every ork flyer variant and jack up the price -__-

At least it provides a bunch of bits for other projects.

that is definitely a big point in the kit's favour...and even without that wazbom sprue it was a great conversion bitz box...

Hoping we get an article in Warhammer Community tomorrow afternoon.

The White Dwarf is a bit sad. It wouldn't shock me if that means no pre-order until say 26th. Not sure what they could have for the next 3 weeks though.

Whether the Ork Codex is awful or not (and I doubt it will be Necrons bad) I'd have thought they would be plugging their buggy game.

Tyel wrote:
Hoping we get an article in Warhammer Community tomorrow afternoon.

The White Dwarf is a bit sad. It wouldn't shock me if that means no pre-order until say 26th. Not sure what they could have for the next 3 weeks though.

Whether the Ork Codex is awful or not (and I doubt it will be Necrons bad) I'd have thought they would be plugging their buggy game.

ive posted about this in another forum, but the fact they named the month "orktober" is the same as saying "month dedicated to orks". if they decide to leave our stuff for the end of the month then they are going back on their word. i cant wait to see the increasing justified rage on the facebook page.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/30/next-week-warbands-and-warhounds/

ORKtober sure is looking jam-packed!

This has been known for weeks. GW clearly wanted ork releases to be in ONE white dwarf and with the amount of models orks get only way that is possible is late october/early november.

What's there to be surprised? This was known already for few weeks.

First orks to be announced next sunday. So only one more week to wait.

tneva82 wrote:

What's there to be surprised? This was known already for few weeks.

if i might ask. how was this "known for weeks"?
this is news to me that they decided to leave all ork stuff to be at the end of octbober/beginning of November. can you post proof of this. i haven't been on the forum for a while (too busy prepping for a tourney), so i wasn't here to learn from your apparent "insider" like knowledge of this stuff.

They told orks coming on october. October WD was leaked long time ago not having orks. As WD contains last half of previous month+first half of WD month...

No orks on october WD=either orks are not coming on october at all(proven false by GW saying they come on october) or they come on 2nd half.

If you know month something comes(we know here it 100% sure as GW already officially stated so) and you know whether it's in WD of that month you can 100% accurately tell is it on first or or second half of that month.

On the flip side this means that not only ork release is going to be big(likely spreading to november as well) but also orks are practically OWNING the november WD(which contains last half of october=orks and first half of november=likely MORE orks as there's coming up so many kits for orks and GW wants to spread out releases. They don't release codex, speed freak and say 6 model kits in 1 or 2 weeks! They want to spread out to maximize profits as generally they are more likely to get people spend more money by spreading releases during few weeks than concentrating. Not quite sure how that works since it goes so much against my buying habits but hey since it works it's obvious path for GW to take). So it's one heck of a green WD coming up.

tneva82 wrote:
They told orks coming on october. October WD was leaked long time ago not having orks. As WD contains last half of previous month+first half of WD month...

No orks on october WD=either orks are not coming on october at all(proven false by GW saying they come on october) or they come on 2nd half.

If you know month something comes(we know here it 100% sure as GW already officially stated so) and you know whether it's in WD of that month you can 100% accurately tell is it on first or or second half of that month.

On the flip side this means that not only ork release is going to be big(likely spreading to november as well) but also orks are practically OWNING the november WD(which contains last half of october=orks and first half of november=likely MORE orks as there's coming up so many kits for orks and GW wants to spread out releases. They don't release codex, speed freak and say 6 model kits in 1 or 2 weeks! They want to spread out to maximize profits as generally they are more likely to get people spend more money by spreading releases during few weeks than concentrating. Not quite sure how that works since it goes so much against my buying habits but hey since it works it's obvious path for GW to take). So it's one heck of a green WD coming up.

oh, i get it now...

your just assuming this all then.

i assume your basing the majority of these claims on "hindsight" knowledge of what you assume is how whitedwarfs work. because GW has yet to claim how they do whitedwarfs (unless you can pull a quote form them on how they set up whitedwarfs).
also, was there a white dwarf leak that i didn't catch that came out before this recent community post? the community post ive known about only came out 2days ago. i must've missed something because you make it seem you've known this stuff at least a week in advance.

geargutz wrote:
oh, i get it now...

your just assuming this all then.

i assume your basing the majority of these claims on "hindsight" knowledge of what you assume is how whitedwarfs work. because GW has yet to claim how they do whitedwarfs (unless you can pull a quote form them on how they set up whitedwarfs).
also, was there a white dwarf leak that i didn't catch that came out before this recent community post? the community post ive known about only came out 2days ago. i must've missed something because you make it seem you've known this stuff at least a week in advance.

Correct.

He makes assumptions based on random guesses then claims we've known about it for 'ages' and gets on his high horse if he's correct. It's pretty shameful to be honest.

The WD that he claims was spoiled had exactly one page shown in advance of the preview that you've seen and we still haven't seen the entire thing. In the WD the month BEFORE the SW release, they were included. So his claim that Orks don't fit into the WD schedule (that doesn't exist) are also wrong.

Either way, perhaps GW shouldn't name an entire month after a faction and release/preview nothing for the faction during the first weeks of that month? Maybe that would appease Ork players? If GW actually delivered what they claimed they were going to?

They have made a rod for their own back and they deserve every bit of vitriol the community gives them. This is what happens when you misrepresent something while trying to build hype and fill your wallets - the community bites back and reacts negatively.

E - just to put the 'why are people expecting Ork news now?!' thing to bed, here's a link to an article by the community team that states, and I quote:

Warhammer Community Team wrote:"Watch out for more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober approaches…"

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/30/breaking-previews-and-reveals-from-novagw-homepage-post-1/

Orktober is now. It is not approaching. Its here. We have nothing.

At this point, it's not even just the complete lack of info regarding "orktober". It's a lot of pent up annoyance by a very dedicated and loyal fanbase that are the Ork players. If this was the ONLY disappointment regarding orks, it wouldn't be such a big deal, but it's a long running trend now.

We waited an entire year for codex news. For one of oldest and most core factions in the game next to space marines. Unsurprisingly, we were left until dead last.
We get completely neglected by Chapter Approved when there was plenty of room for tweaks that other factions received.
We had previously gotten 2 codexes every single month for a solid year, and when Orks are finally announced in June, suddenly it's radio silence and no new books come out.
We are then left with zero news, and no new info regarding a possible release date for MONTHS
GW finally gives out some info(most likely their hand was forced after the leaks), and promises an "Orktober". A whole month dedicated to Orks to make the whole wait all worthwhile in the end
Now they just turn around completely destroy any hype and good will they earned back. The absolute EARLIEST we can expect a release is on the 13th. More realistically the 20th. Half way through the month. Orktober my ass

We are now coming up on FOUR MONTHS since the codex was announced. It's really hard to stay hyped after that long. We still don't even have a solid release window. Technically, they havn't even announced that the codex is even coming in October. Unless I'm mistaken, the only thing they have actually confirmed is the Speed Freeks box game. They have implied that the codex is coming too, but nothing concrete has been promised.

Keep calm and work on terrain. That's my strategy.

I was able to snag a bunch of metal Deff Dreads for $7 each off of eBay last night. The Dread Mob is growing!

Let the first day in Orktober happen at the very least, you squabbling boyz and grotz.

 KingCorpus wrote:
Let the first day in Orktober happen at the very least, you squabbling boyz and grotz.

We have and it doesn't look pretty.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/30/next-week-warbands-and-warhounds/
More camera time for beakies and some obscure boardgame for the next two weeks.

Most this frustration and anger could be answered the most minimal amount of communication "Oh ye sorry lads we forgot about your codex. see you november".



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tneva82 wrote:
They told orks coming on october. October WD was leaked long time ago not having orks. As WD contains last half of previous month+first half of WD month...

No orks on october WD=either orks are not coming on october at all(proven false by GW saying they come on october) or they come on 2nd half.

If you know month something comes(we know here it 100% sure as GW already officially stated so) and you know whether it's in WD of that month you can 100% accurately tell is it on first or or second half of that month.

On the flip side this means that not only ork release is going to be big(likely spreading to november as well) but also orks are practically OWNING the november WD(which contains last half of october=orks and first half of november=likely MORE orks as there's coming up so many kits for orks and GW wants to spread out releases. They don't release codex, speed freak and say 6 model kits in 1 or 2 weeks! They want to spread out to maximize profits as generally they are more likely to get people spend more money by spreading releases during few weeks than concentrating. Not quite sure how that works since it goes so much against my buying habits but hey since it works it's obvious path for GW to take). So it's one heck of a green WD coming up.

Do you remember when the leaked schedules hit and we were slated for june? The Ork community couldn't believe it.
Do you remember when the Space Wolves and Ork codex were announced? The Ork community was estatic! Finally, some news!
Do you remember when we had no work on the Ork codex for several months, and the only information we had was from some badly worded rumors sent to a youtuber?
What about all the releases since the announcement of the Codex, Adeptus Titanicus, Killteam, Space Wolves, Shadespire, Killteam Expansions, FAQ's and two other codex (I'm sure i'm forgetting something).

tneva82, I get you're trying to be optimistic. But this level of communication and frankly, terrible support, is a valid source of frustration and disbelief.