Ork speculation/chat - [new rumour p75 and in OP-Clan Warlord Traits]

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**ManTube**

In an effort to discuss something other than when the release date will/will not be, can we speculate wildly about what kind of datasheet and points costs the new buggies will have to have to be good?

I'm assuming a T6 4+ armor save model with under 10 wounds. All seem heavily-armed when it comes to guns. Possible melee/drive-by type weapons. The best they will have for BS is probably 4+ with some kind of mekboy-enhanced sights or targeting squigs.

Based on that, what kind of firepower at what price point do they need to have a place? By design they don't sound like they can be a very durable unit. And with no better than 4+ to hit, I don't know how reliable we can expect their firepower to be. Looking at the shock jump dragsta, for example, it appears to have rokkits and some kind of kustom mega weapon. If the thing had a rack of rokkits and a KMB at 4+ BS with some ability to teleport and ram enemies with its mini-deff rolla for mortal wounds, what would you pay for it, assuming a profile of T6 4+ save and say, 8 wounds?

**Nazrak**

redboi wrote:
Unsurprisingly, we were left until dead last.

Genestealer Cults say hi.

redboi wrote:
We get completely neglected by Chapter Approved when there was plenty of room for tweaks that other factions received.

We got about the same the other non-Codex factions did in Chapter Approved. And in the intervening time we've found out we'll be getting a lot more when our Codex *does* arrive than most factions did (i.e. a fairly substantial new model release, which doesn't really mesh with the narrative of "GW doesn't care about Orks").

redboi wrote:
We had previously gotten 2 codexes every single month for a solid year, and when Orks are finally announced in June, suddenly it's radio silence and no new books come out.
We are then left with zero news, and no new info regarding a possible release date for MONTHS

Granted, this was mildly annoying, but given that an explanation (i.e. "it'd interfere with the release of AoS 2" or "there are going to be a bunch of new models accompanying the Ork Codex") would have required GW to reveal upcoming releases months in advance, something they don't tend to do, I can see how it happened.

redboi wrote:
GW finally gives out some info(most likely their hand was forced after the leaks), and promises an "Orktober". A whole month dedicated to Orks to make the whole wait all worthwhile in the end

I'm pretty sure they didn't do this at all. They said Speed Freeks would be coming in "Orktober" then a bunch of people read between the lines and somehow extrapolated this to "A whole month dedicated to Orks". Then, the internet being what it is, this became an established "fact", despite there being no evidential basis for it.

redboi wrote:
Now they just turn around completely destroy any hype and good will they earned back. The absolute EARLIEST we can expect a release is on the 13th. More realistically the 20th. Half way through the month. Orktober my ass

So it's now GW's fault that they haven't lived up to the expectations cooked up by people putting two and two together and making five? Ok.

redboi wrote:
We are now coming up on FOUR MONTHS since the codex was announced. It's really hard to stay hyped after that long. We still don't even have a solid release window.

I think this is something of case where GW couldn't win. Currently, people are mad they don't know when the Codex is out. If they *hadn't* announced it so far in advance, people would have spent four months freaking out about no Ork Codex news.

redboi wrote:
Technically, they havn't even announced that the codex is even coming in October. Unless I'm mistaken, the only thing they have actually confirmed is the Speed Freeks box game. They have implied that the codex is coming too, but nothing concrete has been promised.

Correct.

Personally, I'd be very surprised if we don't have a Codex, or at least pre-order by the end of the month. Is hanging on for another month, tops, really that much to ask? As I've said before, the level, and rate, of support for 40K since the arrival of 8th is literally unprecedented. However, the community, and the players, being offered more, quicker, than they ever have been in the past seems to have ramped up the level of entitlement felt by some people, and the level of associated moaning that comes with that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about getting my mitts on the new Codex, but I certainly don't have so little going on in my life that I'm going to mind waiting another couple of weeks here or there. And I really don't see what page after page after page on a forum of pretty much unrelenting negativity hopes to achieve. It certainly isn't going to make the Codex arrive any quicker.

**geargutz**

Nazrak wrote:

I'm pretty sure they didn't do this at all. They said Speed Freeks would be coming in "Orktober" then a bunch of people read between the lines and somehow extrapolated this to "A whole month dedicated to Orks". Then, the internet being what it is, this became an established "fact", despite there being no evidential basis for it.

Spoiler:

edit-
yo mantube, i understand the frustration with the constant bickering (not the negativity, but the fights just cover the same stuff again and again), but i would be lying if this wasnt getting me more involved in the forum (and i will admit im adding to it). i just wish there was other news for us to finaly start speculating,

anyway, i did speculate on wpn loadouts on a forum earlier

Spoiler:

**JohnnyHell**

Seeing “Orktober” as anything but a shallow pun and extrapolating to mean a month of JUST ORKS ZOMG is all the work of people reading the word. A month with a bunch of Ork releases in = Orktober is the reality. Getting hung up on it is pointless, but appears to be the salt everyone is currently mining...

**tneva82**

redboi wrote:

GW finally gives out some info(most likely their hand was forced after the leaks), and promises an "Orktober". A whole month dedicated to Orks to make the whole wait all worthwhile in the end

No. They never, never, NEVER promised whole october for orks.

Furthermore you are missing something big: Ork release is big one. Lots of kits. Speed freak box, codex(plus accessory), 4 vehicle kits and also rumoured to have 3 non-speed freak kits as well. WD covers 2 months of half. To have ork releases in one WD they HAVE to either a) start on 2nd half of september and continue first half of october b) start on 2nd half of october, continue first half of november. I'm sure ork whiners would be complaining about a not being orktober either.

Of course they could dilute WD ork content by splitting to two but they seem to prefer one big ork themed white dwarf instead. With that decision either ork release would be size of usual codex+accessories+maybe one kit or it's split in 2 months.

Either way orks ARE getting month worth of releases but split between 2 months to ensure it's in one WD(most likely reason and if not that's what it ends up anyway. November WD is practically owned by orks).

But they never, ever said full october is orks. That's just idea people came up on their own. That one is on those who came up with that idea. GW never claimed so.

Orks are getting one of the biggest releases for any codex and yet ork players are not satisfied. Lol.

**geargutz**

tneva82 wrote:

No. They never, never, NEVER promised whole october for orks.

they also never never never promised a multi month release.

we might make speculations about what GW said and then get disappointed. but you, YOU claim fact when you are clearly speculating.

**leopard**

ManTube wrote:
In an effort to discuss something other than when the release date will/will not be, can we speculate wildly about what kind of datasheet and points costs the new buggies will have to have to be good?

I'm assuming a T6 4+ armor save model with under 10 wounds. All seem heavily-armed when it comes to guns. Possible melee/drive-by type weapons. The best they will have for BS is probably 4+ with some kind of mekboy-enhanced sights or targeting squigs.

Based on that, what kind of firepower at what price point do they need to have a place? By design they don't sound like they can be a very durable unit. And with no better than 4+ to hit, I don't know how reliable we can expect their firepower to be. Looking at the shock jump dragsta, for example, it appears to have rokkits and some kind of kustom mega weapon. If the thing had a rack of rokkits and a KMB at 4+ BS with some ability to teleport and ram enemies with its mini-deff rolla for mortal wounds, what would you pay for it, assuming a profile of T6 4+ save and say, 8 wounds?

Guessing not vastly different to how they are now to be honest, though with a range of different weapon options and special equipment upgrades open to them - keeps them in the "flanking cavalry" role. Base cost may be lower, but easy to make pricy with too many options added.

Thats one option, the other is for them not to be "War Buggy" data sheets, leaving that in the index and to have a couple of new named vehicle types which could well be very different. Guessing in all cases though they won't be as durable as a trukk, T6 10W doesn't sound unreasonable, not sure on the 4+ save though, expect a 5+, and expect an ork shooting for BS5+, possibly with options or a special rule about ignoring modifiers when moving and the clan trait to ignore when advancing

**Nazrak**

geargutz wrote:

you are the one "extrapolating" that orktober means "barely anything ork related"

I’m not though. I’m simply saying that in the absence of anything explicit being stated by GW, all we know at this point is that we’ll be getting the new buggy (and, by extension, probably Speed Freeks) in ‘Orktober’. As such, people starting to chuck their toys out of the pram because of expectations they’ve concocted themselves (or been convinced of by other people’s wild speculation on the internet) don’t have any justification for behaving as though GW have done something unreasonable, and should probably give the pissing and moaning a rest. It’s not GW’s fault people have decided to read far too much into what *may* have just been a throwaway play on words in some promotional material.

**geargutz**

so, if someone said "your gong to disney land" and then later just went to a normal water park and then watched a disney movie afterword its basically then its basically the same thing. they went to Disney by watching a movie and the water park was the "land" part of it,

this example has gotten out of hand but all im saying if someone promised me disneyland and then gave me some drugs and bashed my head in a few times to then i guess i shouldn't complain becasue what was sold as a month of orks (or orktober, GW words, not mine)and then they released a bunch of non ork stuff and then maybe something at the very end of the month for us ork players, then its all fine, its basically what they said.

you know what, your right!
man, i was just being unreasonable
-sarcasm

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geargutz wrote:
so, if someone said "your gong to disney land" and then later just went to a normal water park and then watched a disney movie afterword its basically then its basically the same thing. they went to Disney by watching a movie and the water park was the "land" part of it,

this example has gotten out of hand but all im saying if someone promised me disneyland and then gave me some drugs and bashed my head in a few times then i guess i shouldn't complain because what was sold as a month of orks (or orktober, GW words, not mine)and then they released a bunch of non ork stuff and then maybe something at the very end of the month for us ork players, then its all fine, its basically what they said.

you know what, your right!
man, i was just being unreasonable
-sarcasm
-man, this reads like squig droppings, its bedtime, complain tomorrow if no news from GW,
-Gnight

**Weazel**

I don't really care anymore, I was just hoping to run Orks in a tournament last weekend of 'Orktober'. But I have other armies so I guess at this point a couple of weeks one way or the other doesn't really make a difference. It's already been a 15 month wait.

**Nazrak**

geargutz wrote:
so, if someone said "your gong to disney land" and then later just went to a normal water park and then watched a disney movie afterword its basically then its basically the same thing. they went to Disney by watching a movie and the water park was the "land" part of it,

this example has gotten out of hand but all im saying if someone promised me disneyland and then gave me some drugs and bashed my head in a few times to then i guess i shouldn't complain becasue what was sold as a month of orks (or orktober, GW words, not mine)and then they released a bunch of non ork stuff and then maybe something at the very end of the month for us ork players, then its all fine, its basically what they said.

you know what, your right!
man, i was just being unreasonable
-sarcasm

Automatically Appended Next Post:

geargutz wrote:
so, if someone said "your gong to disney land" and then later just went to a normal water park and then watched a disney movie afterword its basically then its basically the same thing. they went to Disney by watching a movie and the water park was the "land" part of it,

this example has gotten out of hand but all im saying if someone promised me disneyland and then gave me some drugs and bashed my head in a few times then i guess i shouldn't complain because what was sold as a month of orks (or orktober, GW words, not mine)and then they released a bunch of non ork stuff and then maybe something at the very end of the month for us ork players, then its all fine, its basically what they said.

you know what, your right!
man, i was just being unreasonable
-sarcasm
-man, this reads like squig droppings, its bedtime, complain tomorrow if no news from GW,
-Gnight

fething hell this is one of the stupidest analogies I’ve ever heard. Ok, stay mad because you’re too thick to understand the difference between an explicit statement and an inference you’ve made inside your own head.

**JSG**

Nazrak wrote:
geargutz wrote:

you are the one "extrapolating" that orktober means "barely anything ork related"

I’m not though. I’m simply saying that in the absence of anything explicit being stated by GW, all we know at this point is that we’ll be getting the new buggy (and, by extension, probably Speed Freeks) in ‘Orktober’. As such, people starting to chuck their toys out of the pram because of expectations they’ve concocted themselves (or been convinced of by other people’s wild speculation on the internet) don’t have any justification for behaving as though GW have done something unreasonable, and should probably give the pissing and moaning a rest. It’s not GW’s fault people have decided to read far too much into what *may* have just been a throwaway play on words in some promotional material.

I've seen this type of argument floating around a lot lately. It's utterly disingenuous.

**Nazrak**

JSG wrote:
Nazrak wrote:
geargutz wrote:

you are the one "extrapolating" that orktober means "barely anything ork related"

I’m not though. I’m simply saying that in the absence of anything explicit being stated by GW, all we know at this point is that we’ll be getting the new buggy (and, by extension, probably Speed Freeks) in ‘Orktober’. As such, people starting to chuck their toys out of the pram because of expectations they’ve concocted themselves (or been convinced of by other people’s wild speculation on the internet) don’t have any justification for behaving as though GW have done something unreasonable, and should probably give the pissing and moaning a rest. It’s not GW’s fault people have decided to read far too much into what *may* have just been a throwaway play on words in some promotional material.

I've seen this type of argument floating around a lot lately. It's utterly disingenuous.

What’s disingenuous about saying “you’re mad at GW for not doing something they never said they were going to do, and that’s ridiculous”?

**crzylgs**

My 2c regarding the 'Orktober' term: GW really should not have used the phrase 'Orktober' unless they were planning to heavily dedicate (clearly does not have to be exclusively Ork stuff, but they should be the empasis) the month to Orky related news, features, releases etc. You can argue semantics all you like but I think the common sense answer is if you replace the correct spelling of a month (October) with a pun of a faction (Orktober) you are directly implying that faction is the primary focus of the entire month. Anything else is simply disingenuous on GW's behalf and no amount of linguistic squirming will prove otherwise.

It's a bit early to be crying Orky tears but as things stand with a bespoke Grot modded army (which could prove interesting if/when models are missing data profiles in the codex due to 'no model, no rules?' yet they are showcasing an example of after market modification) seeming to be the only article in WD and nothing on pre-orders yet... It is already feeling a little like an after thought :/

**G00fySmiley**

funny enough I do like those zarbag's gitz in the shadowspire release, will probably pick some up, they even have squig models, gretchin in cosplay, plus getchin weirdboy counts as models!.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/30/next-week-warbands-and-warhounds/

not orks proper, but something to tide me over.

**Perfect Organism**

tneva82 wrote:
...4 vehicle kits and also rumoured to have 3 non-speed freak kits as well.

No, once again, there was never a rumour of 3 non-speed-freak kits. There was a rumour of three new units apart from the two that had been revealed by the time that rumour came out. All of them are vehicles; the deffkilla wartrike, rukkatrukk squig buggy and megatrakk skrapjet. We don't have any idea how many kits there are (beyond 'at least one, probably more'). For all we know all the new units could be built with a couple of new kits with lots of options, or equally they could each be a different kit with several more kits for existing units (I'm inclined to believe the latter, but that's guesswork on my part, not a rumour from a source claiming inside knowledge).

This is another example of forum speculation being treated as solid information because it has been repeated a lot and people don't bother to actually look at the sources or read what is written, but instead mash together a vague impression from half-remembered hearsay.

**davou**

Eonfuzz wrote:
KingCorpus wrote:
Let the first day in Orktober happen at the very least, you squabbling boyz and grotz.

We have and it doesn't look pretty.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/30/next-week-warbands-and-warhounds/

**Jidmah**

You must have missed the flame thread on how the September FAQ was late.

**r_squared**

Got to say I'm disappointed by WD content. Regardless of how GW organises itself, I did expect at least a preview in October's WD of the supposed new models and codex, to build interest prior to the pre-release.

As it stands, my excitement over the new buggies has waned, and I'm actually just a bit bummed by it all.

The wait has been too long. We were told October, and here we are still waiting. It may only be a few weeks (maybe), but my goodwill reserves just bottomed out. The codex better be well thought out and worth it, otherwise I'm spending not a single penny more on GW Ork releases.

**An Actual Englishman**

JohnnyHell wrote:
Seeing “Orktober” as anything but a shallow pun and extrapolating to mean a month of JUST ORKS ZOMG is all the work of people reading the word. A month with a bunch of Ork releases in = Orktober is the reality. Getting hung up on it is pointless, but appears to be the salt everyone is currently mining...

And they're entirely correct to mine this salt, given that GW have promised something and failed to deliver, yet again.

Nazrak wrote:
’m not though. I’m simply saying that in the absence of anything explicit being stated by GW, all we know at this point is that we’ll be getting the new buggy (and, by extension, probably Speed Freeks) in ‘Orktober’. As such, people starting to chuck their toys out of the pram because of expectations they’ve concocted themselves (or been convinced of by other people’s wild speculation on the internet) don’t have any justification for behaving as though GW have done something unreasonable, and should probably give the pissing and moaning a rest. It’s not GW’s fault people have decided to read far too much into what *may* have just been a throwaway play on words in some promotional material.

This is completely wrong, GW did promise news in advance of "Orktober" (see information below). We've had no new news since Nova so they have lied. We have every right to be annoyed.

tneva82 wrote:
redboi wrote:

GW finally gives out some info(most likely their hand was forced after the leaks), and promises an "Orktober". A whole month dedicated to Orks to make the whole wait all worthwhile in the end

No. They never, never, NEVER promised whole october for orks.

Furthermore you are missing something big: Ork release is big one. Lots of kits. Speed freak box, codex(plus accessory), 4 vehicle kits and also rumoured to have 3 non-speed freak kits as well. WD covers 2 months of half. To have ork releases in one WD they HAVE to either a) start on 2nd half of september and continue first half of october b) start on 2nd half of october, continue first half of november. I'm sure ork whiners would be complaining about a not being orktober either.

Of course they could dilute WD ork content by splitting to two but they seem to prefer one big ork themed white dwarf instead. With that decision either ork release would be size of usual codex+accessories+maybe one kit or it's split in 2 months.

Either way orks ARE getting month worth of releases but split between 2 months to ensure it's in one WD(most likely reason and if not that's what it ends up anyway. November WD is practically owned by orks).

But they never, ever said full october is orks. That's just idea people came up on their own. That one is on those who came up with that idea. GW never claimed so.

Orks are getting one of the biggest releases for any codex and yet ork players are not satisfied. Lol.

Let's have a look at what GW did actually 'promise' shall we?

I'll just repeat my previous post here, since the three of you above seem to have missed it;

E - just to put the 'why are people expecting Ork news now?!' thing to bed, here's a link to an article by the community team that states, and I quote:

Warhammer Community Team wrote:
"Watch out for more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober approaches…"

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/30/breaking-previews-and-reveals-from-novagw-homepage-post-1/

Now I'm not sure what 'more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober APPROACHES' means to you, but to me it means we'll get things in advance of Orktober. Orktober is a pun of October, the month we are now in. We've had no previews since this statement. Nothing. This was Nova.

I'm getting pretty sick of certain white knights putting this back on the community. GW have made this mess, no one else. GW CHOSE to name the month "Orktober" and push it as if there'd be a ton of new releases. They CHOSE to respond to comments by citing the wonderful "Orktober" that was coming. They CHOSE to make the statement above in the article linked that leads everyone to believe there'll be previews before October. It's a marketing feth up and they deserve all the hate they have themselves generated. This is all on the back of a 17 month wait where we've been playing half a game of 8th edition, with basically one competitive build that happens to make my particular play style completely unusable.

We've already lost Orks who have moved on to armies that actually get updates in good time. If we don't get any more updates soon, we'll just lose more players. It's as simple as that. Hopefully GW realise this and do what they can to fix the situation that they have, themselves created.

**G00fySmiley**

An Actual Englishman wrote:
JohnnyHell wrote:
Seeing “Orktober” as anything but a shallow pun and extrapolating to mean a month of JUST ORKS ZOMG is all the work of people reading the word. A month with a bunch of Ork releases in = Orktober is the reality. Getting hung up on it is pointless, but appears to be the salt everyone is currently mining...

And they're entirely correct to mine this salt, given that GW have promised something and failed to deliver, yet again.

Nazrak wrote:
’m not though. I’m simply saying that in the absence of anything explicit being stated by GW, all we know at this point is that we’ll be getting the new buggy (and, by extension, probably Speed Freeks) in ‘Orktober’. As such, people starting to chuck their toys out of the pram because of expectations they’ve concocted themselves (or been convinced of by other people’s wild speculation on the internet) don’t have any justification for behaving as though GW have done something unreasonable, and should probably give the pissing and moaning a rest. It’s not GW’s fault people have decided to read far too much into what *may* have just been a throwaway play on words in some promotional material.

This is completely wrong, GW did promise news in advance of "Orktober" (see information below). We've had no new news since Nova so they have lied. We have every right to be annoyed.

tneva82 wrote:
redboi wrote:

GW finally gives out some info(most likely their hand was forced after the leaks), and promises an "Orktober". A whole month dedicated to Orks to make the whole wait all worthwhile in the end

No. They never, never, NEVER promised whole october for orks.

Furthermore you are missing something big: Ork release is big one. Lots of kits. Speed freak box, codex(plus accessory), 4 vehicle kits and also rumoured to have 3 non-speed freak kits as well. WD covers 2 months of half. To have ork releases in one WD they HAVE to either a) start on 2nd half of september and continue first half of october b) start on 2nd half of october, continue first half of november. I'm sure ork whiners would be complaining about a not being orktober either.

Of course they could dilute WD ork content by splitting to two but they seem to prefer one big ork themed white dwarf instead. With that decision either ork release would be size of usual codex+accessories+maybe one kit or it's split in 2 months.

Either way orks ARE getting month worth of releases but split between 2 months to ensure it's in one WD(most likely reason and if not that's what it ends up anyway. November WD is practically owned by orks).

But they never, ever said full october is orks. That's just idea people came up on their own. That one is on those who came up with that idea. GW never claimed so.

Orks are getting one of the biggest releases for any codex and yet ork players are not satisfied. Lol.

Let's have a look at what GW did actually 'promise' shall we?

I'll just repeat my previous post here, since the three of you above seem to have missed it;

E - just to put the 'why are people expecting Ork news now?!' thing to bed, here's a link to an article by the community team that states, and I quote:

Warhammer Community Team wrote:
"Watch out for more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober approaches…"

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/30/breaking-previews-and-reveals-from-novagw-homepage-post-1/

Now I'm not sure what 'more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober APPROACHES' means to you, but to me it means we'll get things in advance of Orktober. Orktober is a pun of October, the month we are now in. We've had no previews since this statement. Nothing. This was Nova.

I'm getting pretty sick of certain white knights putting this back on the community. GW have made this mess, no one else. GW CHOSE to name the month "Orktober" and push it as if there'd be a ton of new releases. They CHOSE to respond to comments by citing the wonderful "Orktober" that was coming. They CHOSE to make the statement above in the article linked that leads everyone to believe there'll be previews before October. It's a marketing feth up and they deserve all the hate they have themselves generated. This is all on the back of a 17 month wait where we've been playing half a game of 8th edition, with basically one competitive build that happens to make my particular play style completely unusable.

We've already lost Orks who have moved on to armies that actually get updates in good time. If we don't get any more updates soon, we'll just lose more players. It's as simple as that. Hopefully GW realise this and do what they can to fix the situation that they have, themselves created.

yea, in 5th I was 100% only orks. I picked up an eldar army to paint towards the end, and ran a few gaems with them but 90+% went orks. then the travesty that was 6th ed came otu and ruined orks completely. graned in GWs defense I now have a huge imperial army, plus a chaos marines army built to augment my orks... but i want to go back to my good ole orks ebign relivant again... though in anticipation of orktober I pulled them out to dust them off and saw how far my painting has come since then... may be strippign them and repainting a squad at a time.

**Nazrak**

r_squared wrote:

The wait has been too long. We were told October, and here we are still waiting..

It’s been October for less than a day. Get a grip.

**G00fySmiley**

intro is up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/01/1st-oct-orktober-1st-introducing-the-orksgw-homepage-post-1/

**Nazrak**

Boyz on 32mm bases confirmed. People are going to lose their minds.

**Perfect Organism**

Runtherdz also serve as the cultural history keepers of the Orks, for they are born with an ancestral memory of past events and the deeds of their clan – not that anyone listens to them.

That's new, isn't it? And interesting...

**Dandelion**

Well look at that. It really is a whole month dedicated to orks. It turns out September really isn't October.

**G00fySmiley**

Nazrak wrote:
Boyz on 32mm bases confirmed. People are going to lose their minds.

not seeing that in there, and the pictures of boyz do not appear to be 32mm. though much liek space marines all it means to most casuals is they will buy new models with different base sizes than old ones.

for tournament players they will likely just buy the snaprings to make the bases a bit bigger.

**Billagio**

G00fySmiley wrote:
intro is up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/01/1st-oct-orktober-1st-introducing-the-orksgw-homepage-post-1/

This must be fake. I was told by this thread and the rumors thread that GW hates orks and becuase GW hadn't posted anything about Orks by Sept 30th that Orktober was a lie.

**geargutz**

at least they promised more articles about the clans, and had a blurb about vigilus (though it added no context, just states we are there. which we knew already and they couldn't help themselves and talk about the other factions there as well), and they have a new pic with some of the new buggies that confirms 32mm bases for boyz (i still think its a non issue, GW has never forced us to rebase 40k minis before,especially if what we have them based on is what came in the box with them originally).

this article has majority copy paste stuff. and again, as said by many others, we are tired after this ridiculous wait (doesn't matter if you think its a justified wait or not). many of us are fed up with being stringed along with poor marketing (long periods of no news whatsoever after model previews).

GW did hype up this month with claiming it "orktober" (and no amount of "orktober doesn't mean month of orks" arguments are going to change our mind about it). GW could easily just have a bunch of articles pop up this month and all the releases could be reserved for the very end of the month or next month, we are still are going to be irritated.

we have been made bitter and pessimistic by the GW team. they have shown they dont know how to properly hype up our faction (so far what we have seen has mostly been copy paste of what we knew already). at this point no amount of "you guys should be soooo excited" is going to change our mood until we have codex in hand and have played a few games to see if they really understand our faction. they have tried hyping us up for bad codexs and bad models (rules wise) before and they disappointed us.

we will stay disappointed till the day they finally give us something genuinely good (and not a half squiged attempt to satiate us).

**jhnbrg**

G00fySmiley wrote:
Nazrak wrote:
Boyz on 32mm bases confirmed. People are going to lose their minds.

not seeing that in there, and the pictures of boyz do not appear to be 32mm. though much liek space marines all it means to most casuals is they will buy new models with different base sizes than old ones.

for tournament players they will likely just buy the snaprings to make the bases a bit bigger.

And for players like me that cares about the look of our armies its a disaster...