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Another great episode, S4 has been amazing so far. T'Lyn joining the Cerritos is almost like Worf coming to Ds9, it just rounds out the cast in a way you didn't even realize was needed.

 Ahtman wrote:
I like T'lyn as well but the overall just didn't gel for me, especially having Vulkans suddenly being so psychically powerful that there sub-conscience can override almost an entire ship and practiced telepaths.

To be clear I still enjoyed it but it was one of their weaker episodes.

This is not the first time we've seen Vulcans do that though, the same thing happened with Sarek on the Enterprise D. They didn't pull it out of their ass just for this episode.

Lower Decks always has a legit precedent for a goof, which I think makes it better.
But I enjoyed it well enough and Lower Decks still very much sits in a strong spot on my show rankings.
Even the with all the jokes it's still Star Trek and deals with real issues.

Ah this was a fun one. I love the realistic detail that for all the talk and showing of the society becoming more progressive, they still have their conservatives because you can see at least one (conveniently censored) naked female sitting in the background.


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Oh, and new theory. The alien ship attacking other ships isn’t destroying them, or at least not killing the crews. I’m betting they’re capturing/collecting them. They’re going too far out of their way to show them grabbing one ship from each species so far. To what end? No idea.

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
This is not the first time we've seen Vulcans do that though, the same thing happened with Sarek on the Enterprise D. They didn't pull it out of their ass just for this episode.

I have absolutely no memory of that episode.

Lower Decks generally feels the most classic Trek thing that's been made in a long long time.

Whilst I really liked the Picard series for looking at the darker side of the Federation (even if it took them 3 seasons to get an ending that didn't feel rushed); Lower Decks just feels like a pure mix of classic Original and TNG with a bit of DS9 thrown in.

It legit feels like its been written by fans of the series and like it hasn't got a producer breathing down their necks to innovate in modern ways or something. Nor writers trying to change Trek into something else.

Might be also because the way how they tell a story

Picard needed a season of episodes to tell the storyline of a single TOS/TNG Episode, while LD uses that style of story telling and adds in the DS9/Voyager season arc stories

for the same reason Orville feels much more classic trek

 Ahtman wrote:

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
This is not the first time we've seen Vulcans do that though, the same thing happened with Sarek on the Enterprise D. They didn't pull it out of their ass just for this episode.

I have absolutely no memory of that episode.

S3 E23, literally called 'Sarek,'

Very good episode too.

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
S3 E23, literally called 'Sarek,'

What is it figuratively called?

 Ahtman wrote:

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
S3 E23, literally called 'Sarek,'

What is it figuratively called?

That One Episode Where Spock’s Dad Is Sick.

That was an exceptional episode.

It's so weird to think back to when LD first got teased and I was so very wary it was just going to be a Rick and Morty clone with annoying voices and awful characters that are all terrible people but I am delighted to say it has proved me wrong.

The stories are fun, the references are good and not heavy-handed, and the actors are great.

S4 so far is not the strongest season (2 and 3 are a high bar) but I still enjoy the show.

Also, "By the transitive property, I too am Vulcan as a melon-fether" might be my favorite line in a Star Trek show since "Death to the opposition."

The entire staff for writing did change halfway through season 3 airing.
It shows, the ship mystery is honestly frustrating tbh, if it's all addressed and fixed on one episode, it will br a poor season throughline

Nah, it’ll be a two episode season finale.

I admit it also took a while for Lower Decks to grow on me, but they've included interesting sci-fi plots that scratch the itch. The theme this season seems to be professionalism in the workplace which I appreciate, it was always an aspect modeled in the Federation but rarely explicitly discussed. Mariner's arc is getting a bit dark though, I suppose Federation tech ironically enables some very self-destructive behavior ("just grow me another liver, Doc!").

Also, Tendi and Rutherford: just kiss already!

I anticipate another seasonal holodeck/movie spoof episode where a character (Mariner) goes on a journey of self-discovery to deal with their issues.

Again.

That was... an OK episode. I can't think of any course of events where Rom could end up grand nagus, that was downright bizarre. Almost felt like a total regression of the character. I'm also not sure how many more times Mariner can be made aware of her efforts to constantly self sabotage before it gets old. We're rapidly approaching that point though.

I anticipate another seasonal holodeck/movie spoof episode where a character (Mariner) goes on a journey of self-discovery to deal with their issues.

Again.

While I've really enjoyed the movie episodes, I agree with the sentiment here. Very easy to overdo. I think they're only doing crisis points during the odd numbered seasons though, s2 did not have one.

Didn’t he become Nagus on DS:9?

Yeah, Zek passed the title to Rom at the end of DS9.

Rom becoming Nagus ushered in a new age for the Ferengi. With a more democratic outlook and importantly rights for women, the Alliance became more profitable than ever. Zek specifically chose Rom to be the new Nagus because no traditional Ferengi could do the job.
Rom was the opposite of a traditional Ferengi but still had the smarts to bring the Alliance even greater prestige and profit than ever before.

Yeah people easily forget that Rom is actually very smart. He's just not got the "lobes for business". However he is smart in many other ways and those new ways were what the Ferengi needed more of to advance socially.

Plus he's still likely got the support of the old Nagus and his Mother, who was basically running the Ferengi' empire near the end of the old Nagus's tenure; and who had also laid some of the groundwork for the social and management changes that Rom followed through with.

0h wow, I don't remember him becoming nagus at the end of Ds9 at all. Alright I retract my objection about that, but I still think the episode was pretty mid.

That was a fun episode. Is this the first time we've seen the Ferengi home world?

No, we saw bits of Ferenginar during DS9 (mostly around Moogie - Rom and Quark's mother).

If you don’t recall their home world before, I’ll point out the low doors, as they require people to bow when entering your home.

I mean Ferengi are also just short. Like, species-wide.

Rom's characterization is maybe a bit off, but it's fitting with the tone of Lower Decks vs the tone of DS9. And whose to say Rom would grow into his role, supported by retiring Zek and Moogie and Leeta to become a reasonably saavy leader who can use the impression that he's a dunce to his advantage?

I thought it was more fitting than not.

Can we also appreciate how hilarious it is that Boimler got addicted to Ferengi television XD

I also hope that the Tendi/Rutherford thing goes somewhere before the show ends, or at least that the writers wouldn't leave us hanging. They're so sweet >.>

Also are we ever going to address the whole Jennifer thing? Cause Mariner easily forgave the captain and her friends but I kind of hope Mariner and Jennifer get some kind of closure for how that relationship exploded at the end of S3.

‘Star Trek: Prodigy’ Season 2 Moves to Netflix After Paramount+ Cancellation - Variety

The first season of “Prodigy” will debut on Netflix later this year, with the second season slated to premiere on the streaming giant in 2024.

 Ghaz wrote:
‘Star Trek: Prodigy’ Season 2 Moves to Netflix After Paramount+ Cancellation - Variety

The first season of “Prodigy” will debut on Netflix later this year, with the second season slated to premiere on the streaming giant in 2024.

Yay!

And this is why I predict the next fortune t obe made in TV streaming is going to be a firm that manages to take 1 payment per month to give you credits to activate on X number of separate streaming services each month so that you can have 1 account but access multiple streaming services so you can chase your favourite shows around.

It's BADGEY!

I have to say I was expecting Badgey to be behind the mystery ship attacking ships but this was a fun episode. I especially liked the twist with the B plot.

 LordofHats wrote:
It's BADGEY!

I have to say I was expecting Badgey to be behind the mystery ship attacking ships but this was a fun episode. I especially liked the twist with the B plot.

I forgot peanut hamper had been imprisoned, had them or badgey pegged as the mastermind as well, but at least I was right about them not actually being destroyed.