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 ImAGeek wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Rather exciting! But where’s the model piccies?

The article isn’t up yet. The video is from the Blackstone Fortress playlist on YouTube.

I know. I just want them now!

Updated article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/01/1st-nov-the-hunt-for-the-blackstone-fortress-4-the-hostilesgw-homepage-post-1/

I'm all for some more CSM/Renegades, but not Nurgle.

Need to get some *other* Gods in there.

I love the concept of adding games like this to a 40K game so there is some meaning to the fight. Already had a great combo with kill team using the temple board from the Rogue Trader set as a DA kill team infiltrated the crypts (randomly emerged from the crypt spaces) taking on a chaos kill team with the leader being a Fallen. On the 40K table, Chaos forces tried to hold back the Ravenwing/Deathwing force reaching the temple to acquire their goal. Was a lot of fun.


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OMG, that model is epic, and answered the question above about who they are

Eeeeeeee!

Hints of Dark Mechanicus!

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Renegades confirmed!! SQUUUEEEEEEEEEEE

Could there be a Codex appearing on the horizon??

Ohhh.. It's Dark Mech... that's very exciting...

Ur-ghuls, Beastmen, Chaos Cultists, Dark Mechanicus, Chaos Marines.

Cultists might actually be renegades, as the narrator refers to them as 'soldiers'

Not entirely sold on the Negavolt Cultist's weapons (or paint job), but the armor aesthetic is pretty neat.

 alanmckenzie wrote:
Could there be a Codex appearing on the horizon??

Maybe the designers are having some fun, cutting loose and doing things that don't work too well in 40K proper. Then again maybe they are throwing stuff onto the wall and seeing what sticks. Interesting times...

 alanmckenzie wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Renegades confirmed!! SQUUUEEEEEEEEEEE

Could there be a Codex appearing on the horizon??

I reckon that’s all but a certainty now.

Codex Rogue Traders, Codex Lost and the Damned,

 alanmckenzie wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Renegades confirmed!! SQUUUEEEEEEEEEEE

Could there be a Codex appearing on the horizon??

GW would not miss the opportunity, but I would imagine it will be like Rogue Trader until proper kits arrive.

Looks like the explorers will be getting a lot more than they bargained with. Here’s just one of the new enemy models from the set – a mysterious Negavolt Cultist:

Spoiler:

Negavolt Cultists express their heretical devotion by despoiling machinery and corrupting the function of sacred technologies through daemonic invocations and abstruse rituals. Such cults can often be found on planets controlled by the Adeptus Mechanicus.

Hmm. My interest has definitely picked up for this!

Much more intrigued now that we've guaranteed not just facing silly drones. Unfortunately my CSM army is made from non-CSM models, but I'll pick it up for the characterful good guys anyway.

Hehe, the guy is called the Negavolt cultist.

I think he'd serve much better as a crazy necromunda pit-fighter personally...

 Elbows wrote:
I think he'd serve much better as a crazy necromunda pit-fighter personally...

Decent opportunities for Necromunda in general from this set I’d say,

I can see him shouting "I'M YOU, I'M YOUR SHADOW" at the nearest Electro-priest.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
I think he'd serve much better as a crazy necromunda pit-fighter personally...

Decent opportunities for Necromunda in general from this set I’d say,

Scheduling. Do you know how busy a pitfighter's day gets? It's hectic, in a word.

Wow. This set's gonna be huge.

Chaos side :

1 Chaos Lord
2+ Chaos Space Marines
2+ Beastmen
Some Negavolt Cultists
Some Renegade Guards
1 Cultist Master (with the staff) ?

1 Ur-Ghul ?

 HorticulusDK wrote:
Wow. This set's gonna be huge.

Chaos side :

1 Chaos Lord
2+ Chaos Space Marines
2+ Beastmen
Some Negavolt Cultists
Some Renegade Guards
1 Cultist Master (with the staff) ?

1 Ur-Ghul ?

I count at least 8 guardsmen in the last shot (so probably 10). Maybe 5 cultists. The marines are certainly not the style of the previous release, which is interesting.

Okay, so this looks like the forces in this box are :

Chaos: Chaos Lord, 2 Chaos Marines, Weird Drone things, a couple beastmen, a couple negavolt cultists, a handful of renegade cultists, Cultist leader guy, Ur-ghul.

Good Guys: Rogue Trader, Kroot, Eldar Ranger, 5 various henchmen, Giant Robot Dude.


As these two side are supposed to be equal-ish, I have to wonder how powerful the Robot Guy is to balance things. A Rogue Trader is good, but not Chaos Lord good. The rest of the henchmen would be about as good as the cultists and Negavolts. That means the Robot Guy is about equal to two Chaos Marines, an Ur-Ghul, the drones, and needs to pick up the slack from the Rogue Trader/Chaos Lord fight.

I hope that whenever the negavolt cultist announces himself as a negavolt cultist, all the renegade guardsmen make fun of him.

Beastman and some sort of ghoul creatures? Mighty neat.

Are we sure that that's a Chaos Lord in the video? He looks a little under-dressed by 40k HQ standards, almost more like an aspiring champion.

I know this is mostly the hype talking but if Bullyboy is right and there's a big mind blowing surprise, I wonder if the Chaos force will be led by a Dark Mech Magos.

After all it wouldn't be unreasonable for someone like Abbadon to send Dark Mech in order to try controlling the BST.

I guess we'll find out this weekend judging by the WarCom post.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Okay, so this looks like the forces in this box are :

Chaos: Chaos Lord, 2 Chaos Marines, Weird Drone things, a couple beastmen, a couple negavolt cultists, a handful of renegade cultists, Cultist leader guy, Ur-ghul.

Good Guys: Rogue Trader, Kroot, Eldar Ranger, 5 various henchmen, Giant Robot Dude.


As these two side are supposed to be equal-ish, I have to wonder how powerful the Robot Guy is to balance things. A Rogue Trader is good, but not Chaos Lord good. The rest of the henchmen would be about as good as the cultists and Negavolts. That means the Robot Guy is about equal to two Chaos Marines, an Ur-Ghul, the drones, and needs to pick up the slack from the Rogue Trader/Chaos Lord fight.

This is a co-op dungeon crawler. There is no reason to assume the forces will be equal size. In fact there should be a ton more adversaries than characters, as it won't always be the same adversaries in each mission.

I hope with all my heart all those Chaos guys announce a Codex : The Lost and the Damned (based on the Eye of terror campaign concepts), in the same way "Silver Tower" announced the Disciples of Tzeentch new units.

There is so much cool stuff from the past of 40k coming back those days (Squat, Necromunda, Rogue Traders, Sisters of Battle, etc. etc.) that it wouldn't surprise me to see them back one way or another.

And with Abaddon leading them, of course

When I said Chaos Lord I really meant Chaos character (just Lord used as general term). Basically somebody a step up from the other two as he's obviously occupying the throne.

Now, if there is still a reveal (as my source indicated), it could be the Chaos Lord, or it could possibly be the contents of the vault, but maybe not actually in the box. Maybe they find a Primarch in stasis for example (or something else), that is then released as a model following Blackstone (just that the game gives away the model so not shown to people at this time). No idea.

I just can't imagine that they'd release such a major model in a boxed game.

As a secondary note, I'm less excited today than I was yesterday. The drones offered something unique and I was excited to see what came next. However, it just turned out to be more chaos stuff instead.

No god specific symbols and the red hues in the Chaos Marine shot make me think and hope for Word Bearers. Please let it be Word Bearers

 silent25 wrote:
No god specific symbols and the red hues in the Chaos Marine shot make me think and hope for Word Bearers. Please let it be Word Bearers

What appears to be a hammer makes me think Warpsmith...

The game models are looking really cool. I hope that for this or Kill Team we see a Inquisition expansion. An Inquisitor (or multiples) with some Storm troopers/acolytes. And of course multiple kit options for all.