Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress

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**EnTyme**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
I assume it's just another miracle of faith. The Emperor hands those out left and right.

I sure hope not, I like Lord Blackfang's suggestion more. But even then, him inspiring an eldar or a kroot is... really not in character!

In a game like this, I find it acceptable to make small lore omissions in favor of game mechanics.

**Chairman Aeon**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Starters should be more middling. Leave serious specialists to expansion

These are the middling guys. Wait til you see the specialists.

**Daedalus81**

Chairman Aeon wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Starters should be more middling. Leave serious specialists to expansion

These are the middling guys. Wait til you see the specialists.

Someone tie this guy down and apply some truth serum.

**Danny76**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, now we know the game doesn't even scale.

As in for difficulty?
As later missions will get harder as you go.

Or as in more players means more enemies type?
As if you’d like that difficulty, just drop one of he four heroes I guess, then it’s scaled harder

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

EnTyme wrote:
In a game like this, I find it acceptable to make small lore omissions in favor of game mechanics.

Yeah but it gives a vibe of confusing a 40k priest (usually either a corrupt sleazy thing or a fanatical zealot, but definitely without any supernatural ability, and frankly, not the kind to specialize in healing) with a classic DnD Cleric (a conduit for the power of his/her/their patron god, with a focus on healing).
Why not give the healing ability to another char?

Though if it's just about him owning some very old and precious archeo-tech artifact because the Ecclesiarchy is fething richer than rich, it would be ok, I think.

**Grot 6**

Can anyone pint me to the conversation from GW where they talk about this game and it's road ahead?

**MrMoustaffa**

There's already lore account for acts of faith healing people though. Sisters/ecclisiarchy already have abilities using faith points to bring back dead models, Celestine, etc. It's really not all that unusual to have him healing friendly targets aside from maybe the xenos, abhumans, and robot. This guy isn't some Joe shmoe priest either from the looks of it

**lord_blackfang**

Danny76 wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, now we know the game doesn't even scale.

As in for difficulty?
As later missions will get harder as you go.

Or as in more players means more enemies type?
As if you’d like that difficulty, just drop one of he four heroes I guess, then it’s scaled harder

I mean it doesn't scale with the number of players. Multiple heroes per player is a bull gak cop-out. Might as well claim the game supports 40 players, as long as 10 of them take turns on the same hero. Same gak.

**Daedalus81**

lord_blackfang wrote:

I mean it doesn't scale with the number of players. Multiple heroes per player is a bull gak cop-out. Might as well claim the game supports 40 players, as long as 10 of them take turns on the same hero. Same gak.

No, it really isn't a cop out.

You can't design unique abilities with weaknesses and expect them to perform without any support. You don't go into a World of Warcraft raid with just a sniper and no tanks or healers.

**Elbows**

You get upset over really bizarre gak.

**Voss**

Geifer wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
UR-025 could also be a stooge of the Necrons? Capture Imperial Robot, replace cortex with some Constructy. Let the pathetic humans take the risks whilst you record what you need.

Nah, too complicated. If they want to infiltrate human society, they'll just wear uncle Bob.

I think at this point they know that doesn't work. They just think it's funny.

I wonder how viable some of the combinations of explorers are.
Robot, Navigator, Priest, Kroot has some interesting potential benefits, if you can juggle healing and shielding effectively and Robot stomps everything, then the Kroot handles the post battle stuff.

**drazz**

Slow robot plus telekinetic navigator? Yeah, I’m calling that a combo.

**Inquisitor Kallus**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, now we know the game doesn't even scale.

As in for difficulty?
As later missions will get harder as you go.

Or as in more players means more enemies type?
As if you’d like that difficulty, just drop one of he four heroes I guess, then it’s scaled harder

I mean it doesn't scale with the number of players. Multiple heroes per player is a bull gak cop-out. Might as well claim the game supports 40 players, as long as 10 of them take turns on the same hero. Same gak.

Damn, give it a rest chum

The characters look to be interestingly different enough role wise and it should be fun with different combinations. Id like to see how some of the rules mechanics work, hopefully there will be a gameplat video

**Rayvon**

If it was the other way around he would be saying its too simplified, they just cant win !!

Anyway it seems like most people are hyped about this game everywhere, I am too I just hope they keep the promise about support in the future, it shows a lot of promise now they are not scared to try new stuff out.

**Geifer**

Grot 6 wrote:
Can anyone pint me to the conversation from GW where they talk about this game and it's road ahead?

Here's the introductory article on Warhammer Community,,,

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/04/the-blackstone-fortress-awakens/

...which has this to say about the future:

A New Beginning

There are hours of fun to be had in Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress. Why, if you wanted to, you could play every day and have a different experience each time. And we’re just getting started.

Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress is the basis for a brand-new series that’ll expand your game and allow you to continue your adventures. Future expansions will contain new battles to fight, enemies to conquer and champions to choose from. You can buy Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress in the confidence that the game will be supported for a long, long time to come.

**Flinty**

So the anti-material rifle of that halfling... is that a suppressor or a muzzle brake?

Otherwise SQUEEEEEEEEE. Looks like a tasty game to.me.

**Jack Flask**

Chairman Aeon wrote:
rayphoton wrote:
Also isn't one of the constant tenets of 40k...."Everyone is currently engaged is something awful all the time"

"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is nothing but war...except for these guys over here who met in a bar and are about to explore an ancient, abandoned mine--I meant space ship!"

Let's be fair here, that "except for these guys over here who met in a bar" is basically the pregame huddle to a far more confusing war.

Come to think of it, that's probably why there are no intelligent xenos enemies in the base game. Otherwise the Imperials would be liable to shoot their allies in the back at some point and walk off with a different xenos and never notice the difference.

"Say Rogue Trader, are you sure this is the same Eldar we walked in with? Hasn't had much to say lately and I think she's gone a bit 'spikey'."

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I hope older fans of WHQ are patient enough to allow them to expand this organically rather than demanding the 'full' WHQ experience that took them years to get to last time right away

To a degree

I'm not demanding weekly or even monthly releases. I'm happy to have some expansion content in WD (I've got a sub, no skin off my nose). But I want to see something quarterly Either couple of character packs, or a scenario type pack.

Quarterly is quite reasonable and sensible, everything they've ever done for WHQ redone for blackstone fortress within a month or two not so much

**Chairman Aeon**

MrMoustaffa wrote:
There's already lore account for acts of faith healing people though. Sisters/ecclisiarchy already have abilities using faith points to bring back dead models, Celestine, etc. It's really not all that unusual to have him healing friendly targets aside from maybe the xenos, abhumans, and robot. This guy isn't some Joe shmoe priest either from the looks of it

Hey, that sounds nothing like a D&D cleric--you know the guys and gals that worship extraplanar beings and receive cool powers like..Heal Light Wounds. DAMNIT!

**Thargrim**

Looks like the set comes with bare basic slot bases. So the eavy metal team outdid themselves pulling off these painted bases on the studio models. To get them to look like that I imagine having to fill the gaps, file smooth and hopefully whtv does a guide on how to base models to match these tiles. In fact the more painting guides they do for this the better.

**Chopstick**

Thargrim wrote:
Looks like the set comes with bare basic slot bases. So the eavy metal team outdid themselves pulling off these painted bases on the studio models. To get them to look like that I imagine having to fill the gaps, file smooth and hopefully whtv does a guide on how to base models to match these tiles. In fact the more painting guides they do for this the better.

These attempt at making game more casual and appealing for noobs just cause the average player more headache. Filling a slotted base wouldn't be too hard, it's just a total waste of time.(or money if you're replacing them with your base)

**Insane Ivan**

Back of the box, from FB:

**H.B.M.C.**

40 board tiles hey?

Well I guess we'll see...

**Yodhrin**

I really want to dig into the rules for this, if I can get a handle on how they put it together it would make a brilliant basis for an all-Mechanicus "(Wahammer)Quest for Knowledge" game - at this kind of "scale" you can really dig into individual factions and tease out interesting archetypes to play as. Would have to seriously up my graphics design game though if I wanted tiles that don't look like arse next to the official ones.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Got two other peeps roped in for a day long session weekend after release. Should give me sufficient time to get everything built, and run myself through the rules.

Bagsy the robot!

**Sneggy**

For you lovely folks who want to have a look at the inside of the box, maybe ask some questions about the game etc.
We will be doing a live unboxing at 7pm GMT on https://www.twitch.tv/teammmx/
Come down and join us if you fancy

**BoomWolf**

What are the odds you'll go over the 40k datasheet of the units in that unboxing/ (especially factions. ESPECIALLY of the less obvious ones like the traitor guards and brand new drone thingies)

**Irbis**

Flinty wrote:
So the anti-material rifle of that halfling... is that a suppressor or a muzzle brake?

Edit: After thinking a bit and second look, yeah, that's probably a muzzle brake. Doesn't really look like silencer or flash suppressor, so will bet on the first one after all.

**H.B.M.C.**

That doesn't look like long las. It looks like a projectile weapon. It has a bolt, and there's a spare bullet stuck to the stock.

And to the question "Is it a suppressor/flash-hider or a muzzle break?" the answer is "Yes".

**Sneggy**

BoomWolf wrote:
What are the odds you'll go over the 40k datasheet of the units in that unboxing/ (especially factions. ESPECIALLY of the less obvious ones like the traitor guards and brand new drone thingies)

Its certainly something I'll be interested in so I'd expect pretty high odds.