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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/03 16:31:16
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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South East London
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angryboy2k wrote:shadowsfm wrote:angryboy2k wrote:Look, the game's fun and generally well-done, but if you're not finding problems with the rules you're not looking hard enough
For example:
Does a basic success of the gambit force you to swap initiative places with the NEAREST hostile group to the left or the right (no choice of direction, you must swap with the nearest) or is it a swap with the nearest to either the left or the right (your choice)?
your choice. it wouldn't work as intended if otherwise
Well that kind of proves my point because I think a “gambit” should entail some risk, so my opinion is that you shouldn’t get a choice of direction. Why do you think the intent is the opposite?
It's a gambit because it costs you an activation dice to do, but only has a 2 in 6 chance of success, so a potentially wasted activation before the turn starts. Unless you're Janus Draik who gets to do it for free.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/03 16:44:55
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Leader of the Sept
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The risk is that you waste an action dice. Those things don't grow on trees
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Terranwing - w3;d1;l1
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/03 16:53:55
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Fresh-Faced New User
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AndrewGPaul wrote:You use the smallest Size in the group to find out how many models potentially return, but that doesn't say only those models can return.
You're right. This reading does make the game harder, which is a good thing if you ask me.
Thanks for pointing it out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/03 17:54:24
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Hallowed Canoness
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Ragnar69 wrote:Well, I did but only got 'The interpenetration of two chain polymers in a good solvent'
I trust you, and somehow I won't check if I get different results, with being at work and all that  .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/03 17:57:01
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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endtransmission wrote:
I like the Legacy style modifications to the decks as you go further in. I think I've been quite lucky with the draws so far, in that I've done a few trips into the Fortress now and still havn't drawn any harder enemies to fight.
We have done two expeditions and a stronghold and have not pulled any higher level enemy Legacy cards. Do you draw a Legacy card after a Stronghold expedition?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/03 19:43:23
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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i think so
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 11:29:27
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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First expansion?
The Dreaded Ambull!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 11:34:53
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Looks like I’m gonna have to buy Blackstone Fortress after all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 11:53:34
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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It’s worth it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 11:57:17
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Now that's a redesign. Compare it to the original: I think it's great, and it looks like a real proper honest-to-Khorne expansion pack. Multiple card types, a rulebook, new tiles, even a new ship. That's the Quest I remember.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 12:08:55
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Yup. Agree 100%. It’s also an expansion I dare say painters will pick up, simply because the Ambull is gorgeous.
Doubly chuffed at Geotsnik Towers that they continue to explore the fringes of 40k. Lovely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 12:11:04
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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[DCM]
Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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Just putting my Blackstone mini's together at the moment.. so happy to see there will be expansions for the game.. and awesome for such a throwback to the old RT days.
Can't wait.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 12:11:15
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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And if you’re not picking it up for Necromunda as well, are you even Hobbying, Bro?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 12:23:15
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 12:42:41
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So that is where the horrible little maggot earwig thing that were put into Chekov's and that redshirt's ears by Khan came from,
They are litterally dripping off the Umber Hulk there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 12:59:15
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Dakka Veteran
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So we are going down the Kingdom Death Monster route with since enemy expansions...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 13:16:40
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Leader of the Sept
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I've only just been able to crack open my copy of the game and I'm not even halfway through building the base game models and they bring out an awesome new beastie. Dagnammit!
Also, hooray for what looks like an amazing bad guy to come across
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 13:59:43
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Fixture of Dakka
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Now that's a redesign. Compare it to the original:
I think it's great, and it looks like a real proper honest-to-Khorne expansion pack. Multiple card types, a rulebook, new tiles, even a new ship. That's the Quest I remember.
It's still clearly an Ambull, but now it's more than just a quick Umber Hulk knockoff. Automatically Appended Next Post:
More than that:
14 August 2018
7 August 2018

These appeared in the Rumour Engine last August; had they even announced Blackstone Fortress at that point?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 14:21:09
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Bummer they didn't make an explorer as a nemesis to the ambull. Like a hunter and the beast. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 14:30:10
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Chopstick wrote:Bummer they didn't make an explorer as a nemesis to the ambull. Like a hunter and the beast. :(
They did say this is just the "first expansion"...I would be shocked if the second isn't new Explorers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 14:44:05
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:Chopstick wrote:Bummer they didn't make an explorer as a nemesis to the ambull. Like a hunter and the beast. :(
They did say this is just the "first expansion"...I would be shocked if the second isn't new Explorers.
New explorer is definitely likely, what i don't want to see is that the new explorer is related to the ambull expansion but not included in the very big ambull box.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 14:48:05
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Dakka Veteran
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Definitely buying this.
Gorgeous stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 14:50:44
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Dakka Veteran
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Kanluwen wrote:They did say this is just the "first expansion"...I would be shocked if the second isn't new Explorers.
Like say, an Inquisitor and retinue...
In the meantime I'd love to see some existing models (Starstriders) get cards for BSF in a White Dwarf since that's now a thing.
Do we expect all now stuff or are we going to whine when Greyfax, a Calladius ... et al show up in a boxed expansion? Is the quality of the execution more important than just new stuff?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 15:53:54
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Terrifying Doombull
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Nice model (really nice model), but.. seems an overly limited 'expansion.' Price point should be fascinating.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 16:36:00
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Fixture of Dakka
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Here you go. Hot out of the oven. Its a pretty serious threat, so one of them will be enough. In space, no one can hear your wallet scream....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPDwq12LsNA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 17:21:45
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Ambull has its own ship? Seems odd that an adversary only expansion would come with one. But if there was a new explorer as well why would GW hold them back?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 18:06:40
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Dakka Veteran
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GoatboyBeta wrote:The Ambull has its own ship? Seems odd that an adversary only expansion would come with one. But if there was a new explorer as well why would GW hold them back?
OMG!?! You mean the Ambull is an explorer expansion and not an adversary... j/k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 18:16:05
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Is there a new ship in the video?
One thing is it could be a variety of new ships coming that people can then buy/trade up for their characters.
For more modularity and narrative or something?
(Don’t know if that would practically work/be possible. Not played yet)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 18:16:08
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Chairman Aeon wrote:GoatboyBeta wrote:The Ambull has its own ship? Seems odd that an adversary only expansion would come with one. But if there was a new explorer as well why would GW hold them back?
OMG!?! You mean the Ambull is an explorer expansion and not an adversary... j/k
Not in grey plastic its not
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/05 18:21:34
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Now that is something realllllly special! Want one!
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