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2018/10/16 15:37:06
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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 Hanskrampf wrote: Paradigm wrote:I could certainly go for a Heroes for Hire show that just pulled Danny, Luke, Misty and Coleen into the same sphere on a permanent basis, rather than the occasional crossover. It's a real shame to see Iron Fist go though, I loved both series and the end of the second set up so much intriguing stuff.
I wonder what the decision behind this is... Is it just based on response to the show or are Marvel going to kill off the Netflix series one by one before they launch their own streaming service on which they can relaunch them in slightly different guises? I get a very strong 'final season' vibe from Daredevil 's promotion, so I'd not be surprised if that ends there, JJ, Punisher and LC get one more series next year then it all gets moved over to their own service and we get another Defenders, or Heroes For Hire ect.
I thought Netflix confirmed that these shows will stay with them and only new shows are on the Disney platform?
Correct, R rated properties will not exist on the Disney platform, so any current or future "grown up" shows will likely find a home on alternative platforms.
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2018/10/16 16:34:40
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Honestly it's a real shame that this goes away but we're likely in for even more Moping Catholic Pseudoninja. Never got how folk could be so annoyed by Danny but just eat up Murdoch's endless droning circular bouts of self-flagellation.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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2018/10/16 17:30:22
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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It's kind of a shame as S2 seemed to be a substantial step up, but maybe a Heroes for Hire show a few years down the line once DD and Jones have run their course
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2018/10/16 17:57:43
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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After a solid season 2, IF deserved better. You look at some of the stuff on TV that gets three seasons, and yeesh...
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2018/10/16 19:44:34
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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 Yodhrin wrote:Honestly it's a real shame that this goes away but we're likely in for even more Moping Catholic Pseudoninja. Never got how folk could be so annoyed by Danny but just eat up Murdoch's endless droning circular bouts of self-flagellation.
Because Murdoch doesn't yell "But I'm the IMMORTAL IRON FIST!" to people passing him on the street. Murdoch's character makes sense to me. The Danny we meet in season 1 is just nonsensical and obnoxious.
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2018/10/16 19:49:29
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
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I must be in the minority as I dislike, most marvel stuff like daredevil but enjoyed this.
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2018/10/16 19:55:50
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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Season 2 was definitely an improvement, but I am not too surprised to see this decision being made. I am personally hoping that they take this opportunity to consolidate into more of a Heroes for Hire type series in the future.
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2018/10/16 20:25:54
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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 Turnip Jedi wrote:It's kind of a shame as S2 seemed to be a substantial step up, but maybe a Heroes for Hire show a few years down the line once DD and Jones have run their course
Jones has already run her course. Very surprised it got a 3rd season, after the weaksauce season 2... and I'm really not looking forward to a season of superpowered Trish.
Still kind of hoping that Coleen and Misty get their own series.
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2018/10/16 20:38:15
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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Was admittedly a step down, but anything trying to follow wee Davie McD 's Kilgrave turn was going to struggle, plus Ms Ritter gets a free pass cos reasons
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2018/10/16 21:24:19
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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 Hulksmash wrote: Yodhrin wrote:Honestly it's a real shame that this goes away but we're likely in for even more Moping Catholic Pseudoninja. Never got how folk could be so annoyed by Danny but just eat up Murdoch's endless droning circular bouts of self-flagellation.
Because Murdoch doesn't yell "But I'm the IMMORTAL IRON FIST!" to people passing him on the street. Murdoch's character makes sense to me. The Danny we meet in season 1 is just nonsensical and obnoxious.
His character might "make sense", but it's still hideously dull and repetitive. The best parts of Daredevil have been things that aren't Daredevil or Murdoch; Fisk, Punisher's debut, Temple, Foggy's banter etc.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2018/10/16 21:27:13
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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I’d argue that Daredevil is indeed a bit dull. But Matt Murdoch isn’t. At all. It’s his civvy life that the real drama comes from, and the impact of his costumed arseing about brings to that civvy life.
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2018/10/16 21:38:35
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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 insaniak wrote: Turnip Jedi wrote:It's kind of a shame as S2 seemed to be a substantial step up, but maybe a Heroes for Hire show a few years down the line once DD and Jones have run their course
Jones has already run her course. Very surprised it got a 3rd season, after the weaksauce season 2... and I'm really not looking forward to a season of superpowered Trish.
Still kind of hoping that Coleen and Misty get their own series.
Exalt. And to me, there's your Heroes for Hire Bridge- Misty and Colleen team up and start going after one of the Kingcage's unsavory associates, Luke gets called in to protect Harlem's peace and eventually goes up against the two ladies.
Ideally, Shades is behind it all, and he continues to smirk the paint off of the walls in every scene he occupies, but manages to remain safely behind the scenes.
Harlem turns on Luke's help everybody whether they want you to or not routine, and he and Danny open up their shop.
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
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2018/10/16 22:42:23
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I’d argue that Daredevil is indeed a bit dull. But Matt Murdoch isn’t. At all. It’s his civvy life that the real drama comes from, and the impact of his costumed arseing about brings to that civvy life.
Really? Because it seems like he just keeps repeating the same pattern over and over - do vigilante stuff in secret, lie to friends, get found out, agonize about how dumbadwrong he is and mope about how much everyone hates him, get a quick slap of common sense from that priest, reconcile with everyone, goto 1. All the interesting stuff from his "civvy life" happens to other people. I'm looking forward to S3 to follow Fisk's story, to see what Foggy is up to, but another go on the Stereotypical Catholic Self-loathing Train? Bleugh.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2018/10/17 01:41:28
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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This season is based on Born Again. It has Bullseye. It should be good.
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2018/10/17 03:57:27
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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insaniak wrote: Turnip Jedi wrote:It's kind of a shame as S2 seemed to be a substantial step up, but maybe a Heroes for Hire show a few years down the line once DD and Jones have run their course
Jones has already run her course. Very surprised it got a 3rd season, after the weaksauce season 2... and I'm really not looking forward to a season of superpowered Trish.
Why not? She is super powered in the comics.....
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2018/10/17 04:47:21
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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Is she as annoying in the comics, though?
I've never read the comics. Hadn't even heard of Jessica Jones prior to the series, so I'm just going off that. Trish was bearable in the first season, but her story arc in the second was just a painful train-wreck, and frankly I was rooting for her to be killed off.
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2018/10/17 06:46:17
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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Experienced Maneater
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insaniak wrote:
Is she as annoying in the comics, though?
I've never read the comics. Hadn't even heard of Jessica Jones prior to the series, so I'm just going off that. Trish was bearable in the first season, but her story arc in the second was just a painful train-wreck, and frankly I was rooting for her to be killed off.
Patsy Walker doesn't play a role in the Jessica Jones comics.
She has her own series called "Hellcat", "Patsy Walker: Hellcat" and "Patsy Walker aka Hellcat!"
No idea if they are any good, though.
Jessica is best buddies with Ms. Marvel/Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) in the comics, which is less annoying (in the JJ comics) unless Bendis (creator of JJ) goes on one of his 12-year-old-dialogue-sprees ("No way." - "Yes." - "No way!" - "Yes." - "Really?" - "Yes.")
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2018/10/17 06:50:22
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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She’s also BFFs with She Hulk.
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2018/10/17 14:32:34
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Pretty much every one of these shows suffers from being about 3-5 episodes too long. I quite liked LC2, but it starts with pretty much all the episodes that needed to be cut so it takes a bit to get going (which funny enough means that combined there's probably a straight full season of bloat between season 1 and 2).
JJ2 was pretty bad. Pretty much everything with ninjas was bad. That said, all these shows are still pretty good, but nothing has really lived up to DD or JJ's first seasons.
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2018/10/17 20:24:16
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Punisher did....But overall I agree.
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2018/10/17 20:30:07
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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I guess I'm one of the weirdos that thought JJ2 was excellent. Anyway, I'm not that sad to see Iron Fist go. The second season was a huge improvement over the first but it still wasn't good IMO. The ending with the dual wield chi pistols was especially cringe worthy.
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2018/10/17 21:23:29
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Never bothered watching the second season of iron fist but I only enjoyed the first seasons of DD and JJ, primarily because of their villains. D'onofrio and Tennant were what kept me watching and since then nothing Netflix made has really kept me interested in them.
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2018/10/17 23:54:47
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I liked JJ2 and really liked LC2.
Punisher is the only one to use its full 13 episodes well. LC2 might be a close second, and DD1 after that.
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2018/10/18 16:47:46
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Sure, the Netflix Marvel-verse is not perfect but compared to the CW DC-verse it is light years better.
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2018/10/18 17:04:37
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Fixture of Dakka
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 Easy E wrote:Sure, the Netflix Marvel-verse is not perfect but compared to the CW DC-verse it is light years better.
IDK, they have very different tones, but quality wise the CW stuff is pretty solid. Certainly Arrow's first two seasons and Flash's first season are up there. Funny enough, both universes even fall apart with the inclusion of ninja death cults.
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2018/10/18 18:33:45
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Easy E wrote:Sure, the Netflix Marvel-verse is not perfect but compared to the CW DC-verse it is light years better.
Yeah, I'm going to go with a no. Tonal differences aside I generally enjoy them all (have not watched black lightning) more than anything other than dd1 and punisher1. And their 4 episode team ups are awesome.
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2018/10/20 07:26:17
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2018/10/20 08:23:01
Subject: Iron Fist Season 2.
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Maybe it's because they are doing heroes for hire instead?
Or Ike Pearlmutter is an idiot again?
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2018/10/20 08:42:31
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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.did wonder -- about both -- of the above.
Or it's Disney consolidating their stuff for/in their own channels only maybe ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2018/10/20 10:25:05
Subject: Re:Iron Fist Season 2.
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 reds8n wrote:.
Or it's Disney consolidating their stuff for/in their own channels only maybe ?
think you might be onto something there as they are both 'cheap' heroes whose powers don't really need expensive fx as even with Disneys deep pockets its a consideration
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