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This one served as cement for what came before - showing that Action A will have Consequence B in due course - stitching it all together into a narrative quilt.

Don’t you judge my metaphors!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Chapter 10, eh?

Spoiler:

Bit of a quieter episode, overall. But it spent time reenforcing Mando’s own slice of the galaxy, with call backs to Season 1.

And I do believe those bugs to be at least cousins of those from Chopper Base in Rebels?

I’m happy with that! Roll on next Friday!

Given that Dave Filoni is IN the episode, and how big of a hand he has in them as well, I'd say it's not a coincidence.

Indeedy. As much as it would be nice to see ever more creatures and gribblies, call backs help stitch it altogether as a cohesive universe.

Seems the design is an unused concept for a Dagobah gribbly as well.

The writing for filler episodes needs to get better. Visually impressive as always, but the writing was not good.

Honestly, I feel like the sequel trilogy needs to be invalidated even more than the prequels.

The prequels sucked but at least there was a logic to them. The sequel trilogy is senseless in its world building. Most of the Disney movies actually have been rather senseless in terms of world building.

The New Republic being a handful of planets was a wtf moment. If the New Republic was just a handful of planets, why did the First Order even care? Why did anyone care? That would represent a total failure of the Rebellion's goals and would have already made them irrelevant in itself.

I can tolerate some things. Sublight speeds are slow as feth but there's a lot of speeds that are still sublight. Realistically we're still talking about years of travel subject to relativity, but space fantasy is fantasy so whatever.

The space cops were just kind of weird though.

 LordofHats wrote:
Honestly, I feel like the sequel trilogy needs to be invalidated even more than the prequels.

The prequels sucked but at least there was a logic to them. The sequel trilogy is senseless in its world building. Most of the Disney movies actually have been rather senseless in terms of world building.

The New Republic being a handful of planets was a wtf moment. If the New Republic was just a handful of planets, why did the First Order even care? Why did anyone care? That would represent a total failure of the Rebellion's goals and would have already made them irrelevant in itself.

I can tolerate some things. Sublight speeds are slow as feth but there's a lot of speeds that are still sublight. Realistically we're still talking about years of travel subject to relativity, but space fantasy is fantasy so whatever.

The space cops were just kind of weird though.

Spoiler:

You're under arrest! But don't make us shoot you (it's kind of weird to watch given, other things, actually). Then 30 minutes later, you would be under arrest because you totally broke the law but you don't seem like such a bad guy so we gonna let you go.

If I were Mando, I'd have been furious.

What was the point of any of this gak if you were just going to let him go? Why even bother chasing him in the first place?

except they never DID say they wanted to arrest him. they asked him if he was involved in an incident and he bolted. they chased but it's worth noting they held fire. very big contrast to the empire I'd say

and yeah I agree the sequal trilogy didn't make much sense, the world building there SUCKED.

He’s just lucky they were also crack marksmen with their rifles.

Not the best episode, but credit where credit is due for the spectacular visuals and the bit of world building we got. That definitely made it feel a lot more immersive and made up for the somewhat odd approach they took to the story.

 AduroT wrote:
He’s just lucky they were also crack marksmen with their rifles.

Either they were part of a unit that also deployed as infantry, or they weren't bothered about putting (more) holes in his ship.

Wouldn't it just be a case of infantry weapons aren't generally powerful enough to damage an armoured space vessel?

 Azreal13 wrote:
Wouldn't it just be a case of infantry weapons aren't generally powerful enough to damage an armoured space vessel?

That was my thought as well - at least not it’s hull?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Wouldn't it just be a case of infantry weapons aren't generally powerful enough to damage an armoured space vessel?

That was my thought as well - at least not it’s hull?

Also, it was already full of holes. What are a few more?

Forgive me for not being a Star Wars close followers, is the timeline for the Mandalorian = when Yoda was young or long after the Empire has fallen? I get all these young Yoda, then there is supposedly Baba-fett...

 Big Mac wrote:
Forgive me for not being a Star Wars close followers, is the timeline for the Mandalorian = when Yoda was young or long after the Empire has fallen? I get all these young Yoda, then there is supposedly Baba-fett...

I believe it is 9 years after A New Hope. Might be 9 years after Return of the Jedi. IDR off the top of my head, but it after the Original Trilogy.

This might be snarky, but Google could have answered that question faster. "Baby Yoda" isn't Yoda.

 Big Mac wrote:
Forgive me for not being a Star Wars close followers, is the timeline for the Mandalorian = when Yoda was young or long after the Empire has fallen? I get all these young Yoda, then there is supposedly Baba-fett...

This happens several years after the Empire has fallen, but before the newest sequel trilogy. So the New Republic has basically just been established, the First Order doesn't exist yet.

 trexmeyer wrote:

 Big Mac wrote:
Forgive me for not being a Star Wars close followers, is the timeline for the Mandalorian = when Yoda was young or long after the Empire has fallen? I get all these young Yoda, then there is supposedly Baba-fett...

I believe it is 9 years after A New Hope. Might be 9 years after Return of the Jedi. IDR off the top of my head, but it after the Original Trilogy.

This might be snarky, but Google could have answered that question faster. "Baby Yoda" isn't Yoda.

Indeed. The character's proper name per episode credits is 'The Child'.

 Grimskul wrote:

 Big Mac wrote:
Forgive me for not being a Star Wars close followers, is the timeline for the Mandalorian = when Yoda was young or long after the Empire has fallen? I get all these young Yoda, then there is supposedly Baba-fett...

This happens several years after the Empire has fallen, but before the newest sequel trilogy. So the New Republic has basically just been established, the First Order doesn't exist yet.

It's not completely guaranteed that the First Order will exist. There is some speculation that The Mandalorian is going to be a soft reboot of the ST. However, I don't believe it.

@LordOfHats

On the topic of reboots, I think everything outside of the OT would need to be rebooted in order to tell a coherent story in a believable universe. The current canon Star Wars suffers from a lack of verisimilitude.

This is why the old EU had the Keeper of the Holocron. We can say what we want about the quality of the franchise entries then, but the Keeper generally did their job of ensuring continuity across entries well (except when Lucas was the problem). Disney kept Leland Chee around supposedly to do just that, but it's pretty clear no one is really trying to keep things consistent or coherent. Right now individual entries are generally consistent, but as a whole franchise the canon has lots of little wtf moments.

Episode 10 was a good one overall. Some unexpected and very cool callbacks. However...

 ZergSmasher wrote:
Episode 10 was a good one overall. Some unexpected and very cool callbacks. However...

Spoiler:

Sublight travel?! Wtf? Even if the ship was only going the distance between Sol and Alpha Centauri and was capable of moving at 0.999999 the speed of light, it would take over FOUR YEARS to get there. Somebody in the writing team is clueless when it comes to realistic science. Yes, yes, Star Wars is space fantasy, not reality, but stuff like that is very immersion-breaking. SMH

The thing is, in the old Legends universe, Timothy Zahn got it right in Heir to the Empire. Luke's X-wing's hyperdrive was damaged and he ended up stuck in the void between systems. Luke knew he either had to find a way to fix it or successfully call for help or he'd never live long enough to reach the nearest star system at sublight speed. So it's not like Star Wars always gets science stuff wrong.

I know Luuuuuuuuuuuuuke (extra Us for emphasis) gets clowned, but I'll be damned if that trilogy wasn't better than just about everything Star Wars related that came after. Particularly for the post-ROTJ setting.

there's been some suggestions that even at "sublight" a ship in SW can actually break the light barrier. mostly as people try to resolve TESB's "our hyperdrive is broken.... what nearby systems can we visit?" issue

 LordofHats wrote:
This is why the old EU had the Keeper of the Holocron. We can say what we want about the quality of the franchise entries then, but the Keeper generally did their job of ensuring continuity across entries well (except when Lucas was the problem). Disney kept Leland Chee around supposedly to do just that, but it's pretty clear no one is really trying to keep things consistent or coherent. Right now individual entries are generally consistent, but as a whole franchise the canon has lots of little wtf moments.

Leland Chee is STILL the keeper of the holocron. He still works for lucasfilm in that capacity. Disney lets LFL pretty much run itself, the same way it lets marvel ruin its franchise with endless retellings of the same story.

BrianDavion wrote:
there's been some suggestions that even at "sublight" a ship in SW can actually break the light barrier. mostly as people try to resolve TESB's "our hyperdrive is broken.... what nearby systems can we visit?" issue

Just nuke it all and start over.

This is why I loved KotOR 1 and 2. It completely divorced itself from the films while keeping the aesthetic elements that drew me in.

BrianDavion wrote:
there's been some suggestions that even at "sublight" a ship in SW can actually break the light barrier. mostly as people try to resolve TESB's "our hyperdrive is broken.... what nearby systems can we visit?" issue

Technically this is resolved with the vast majority of ships in Star Wars actually having 2 hyperdrives. They have a primary drive which is the higher quality, but they also have a secondary emergency drive which is a much slower hyperdrive. To be used only to reach very close-by systems for repairs. The backup hyperdrive would take weeks or even months to travel what with the normal would only take days.

Canonically, the Millenium Falcon has a Class 0.5 Hyperdrive(Han's line saying "she'll make .5 past lightspeed") and a class 10 backup hyperdrive. The class ratings IIRC are relative ranks comparing to other hyperdrives. A Class 10 is 1/10 the speed of a Class 1. A class 0.5 is twice the speed of a class 1.

So they simply used the backup hyperdrive to get to Bespin, probably taking a few weeks to arrive. This gave Luke time to conduct a fair amount of training with Yoda. It also gave Boba time to calculate their destination and arrive there with the Empire before they did.

This system would make quite a bit of sense to have all ships have a backup hyperdrive. Space is big and if you get stuck somewhere off the beaten path you are really stuck. Putting a backup hyperdrive would be a sensible thing and probably saved countless lives.

That was my understanding of the whole "hyperdrive is broken, but we can still get to places" thing, having read various SW technical manuals over the years - including the excellent Haynes manuals.

This only ran into a massive snag when you end up in a situation where you absolutely can't use a hyperdrive.

One workaround is that in the SW universe, some distances between some planets are very small; much as I hate referring to The Forgotten Chapters, in the Force Awakens the planets that get Starkillered to death appear to be very close to each other.

Mind you, space is big. Really big.

 trexmeyer wrote:

Just nuke it all and start over.

This is why I loved KotOR 1 and 2. It completely divorced itself from the films while keeping the aesthetic elements that drew me in.

This seems to be more or less what they're trying to recapture with the High Republic.

 Graphite wrote:

Spoiler:

Well, The Child eating a sentient creature's offspring being played for laughs certainly is horrifying

the kids racking up sooooooooooooooooooo many dark side points!

That was point that I thought "Oh my God... Baby Yoda's a little d***!"

 Graphite wrote:

Spoiler:

Well, The Child eating a sentient creature's offspring being played for laughs certainly is horrifying

Glad I’m not the only one who thinks that!



I just want to say that seeing/hearing the old school T65’s just gave me chills, so awesome! I also really appreciate the Dr Who style random nightmare fuel they’re dropping in a few episodes.

Also, with the failed hyperdrive thing, I wonder if it can be used a bit like Tau FTL in 40k; you can use the drive to distort space and go faster than light, but without punching all the way through into true hyperdrive. Fast enough to travel a few light years, but not to get across the galaxy.