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 Jadenim wrote:
Yeah, this is really filling a Firefly sized hole in my life!

Don't worry, the harpoons come out in the wash ...

On a totally different note - big fashion statement from the Mon Cal on the docks. That was a knitted jumper that would kill a lesser mortal.

 chromedog wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
Yeah, this is really filling a Firefly sized hole in my life!

Don't worry, the harpoons come out in the wash ...

Your post was sudden yet inevitable.

 Graphite wrote:
More to the point - everyone knows the stuff is REALLY expensive. Why didn't whoever killed the Mandalorians take it? How did the Smith survive? It's all very suspicious.

Mando's not going to sell it to buy a new spaceship - it's holy. Neither is the Smith. But some random stormtrooper in a failing empire maybe thinking about stashing a few creds for retirement? And any random Imperial officer is going to "confiscate" the lot and pass it back to his superiors (after taking a small cut for his troubles, of course)

You're assuming that any Stormtroopers walked away from that attack. The fact that the Armourer was still there suggests they quite possibly didn't.


Having said that, my impression was that most of the armour in that enclave wasn't actually beskar.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 chromedog wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
Yeah, this is really filling a Firefly sized hole in my life!

Don't worry, the harpoons come out in the wash ...

Your post was sudden yet inevitable.

Is there a way to anti-exalt? It’s been over fifteen years and still too soon!

 Jadenim wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 chromedog wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
Yeah, this is really filling a Firefly sized hole in my life!

Don't worry, the harpoons come out in the wash ...

Your post was sudden yet inevitable.

Is there a way to anti-exalt? It’s been over fifteen years and still too soon!

Reported for hate speech.

 insaniak wrote:

 Graphite wrote:
More to the point - everyone knows the stuff is REALLY expensive. Why didn't whoever killed the Mandalorians take it? How did the Smith survive? It's all very suspicious.

Mando's not going to sell it to buy a new spaceship - it's holy. Neither is the Smith. But some random stormtrooper in a failing empire maybe thinking about stashing a few creds for retirement? And any random Imperial officer is going to "confiscate" the lot and pass it back to his superiors (after taking a small cut for his troubles, of course)

You're assuming that any Stormtroopers walked away from that attack. The fact that the Armourer was still there suggests they quite possibly didn't.


Having said that, my impression was that most of the armour in that enclave wasn't actually beskar.

not to mention the armorer was resmelting the beskar when Mando found her amidst everything. So they didn't leave the armor behind so much as they decided to melt it down into easier to carry shapes. lol

Well - she decided to melt it down. Maybe she's decided that things have got a bit too hot with Gideon in the vicinity, and is off to some other planet to start a new Covert/Cult/Orphanage/Brainwashing Cell

I wonder if there's potential for the story to lead Din Djarin to become the Lord Mandalore of old should anything end up happening to Bo Katan and he manages to get the Darksabre. Might be a bit of a hot take though.

I kinda feel like it's more likely that Bo-Katan could achieve her goals and in game of thrones terms, over Din as a position of effectively Kingsguard.

But, of course, since this is a space Western, it will of course end with Din flying off into the sunset and another adventure.

Din is not leader material. Maybe he could be, but he's got a looooooooong way to go.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I wonder if there's potential for the story to lead Din Djarin to become the Lord Mandalore of old should anything end up happening to Bo Katan and he manages to get the Darksabre. Might be a bit of a hot take though.

It’s not impossible. But remember in Rebels Sabine handed the Dark Saber to Bo-Katan, recognising shed just make a better Mandal’ore.

I can see that bit of history repeating. Or, perhaps more interestingly....

Din’s cell defeat Gideon, and refuses to hand over the Dark Saber, leading to further series shenanigans about the actual nature of what it is to be Mandalorian?

I suspect they’ve a few future plot lines in development, and will decide based on viewer reaction/reception to whatever is currently set in stone (so S2, which is in the can, and probably S3).

I really hope they don't go that route.

 LordofHats wrote:
Deathwatch took their helmets off all the time though.

I wouldn’t take anything Bo Katan said to Din at face value. She was borderline gaslighting him throughout E3.

 LordofHats wrote:
He's basically a cultist

Uh yeah THIS is the main thing you shouldn’t be taking at face value btw ...

As to the eggs:

The Child is depicted doing something the audience will find transgressive to demonstrate that Din MUST starting taking a more active parental role. But of course he is hardly equipped to do so!

In Season 1, we saw a lot of “This Is The Way” without much looking into WHY it’s the Way. Pretty much every character, even quite minor ones, are presented from a moral perspective. They all have their codes, sometimes more and sometimes less flexible.

The major exception to this is obviously the Child ... because it’s a child. Blankly repeating “This is the Way” or “I have spoken” may be fine for adults summing up their ethics but that kind of laconic attitude is useless when you need to TEACH the difference between right and wrong to a child.

Notice that S2 has already introduced some major themes along these lines. Cobb Vanth in S2E1 had to reconsider his worldview to work with the Tusken Raiders. In S2E2, the frog lady asks whether the vaunted Mandalorian code is “just stories for children.” And then in the latest episode, Bo Katan demonstrates that not all Mandalorians share the same values.

As Din grows and develops, he will have to take a harder look at his own sense of what’s right and wrong. We’ve already seen him change (rethinking his hatred of droids and his preference for being a loner) but he needs to get to the point where he can teach the child why it is not okay to eat the eggs of a sentient being.

Chapter 12.

Absolutely superb. Lots to unpack, and definitely a raising of the stakes. Plus strong hints as to just what Gideon is up to...

Highlight for me?

Another good episode, loads of cool easter eggs in this one again.

Damn, those are some insanely good engineers. They got the Razorcrest looking like new in what, an hour? Maybe two?

Imperial Base was the opposite side of the moon from what I could tell?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Imperial Base was the opposite side of the moon from what I could tell?

It was, although the way it played out made it seem like it was done in an afternoon. I'd say it took longer than that though.

Those Tie pilots would have to be seriously upping the game of storm trooper bad marksmanship to whole new levels of incompetence if they followed that tank all the way from the other side of the moon and never managed to hit it once. Not to mention the speed/distance Mando’s jet pack can cover.

I agree that the planet size doesn't make a lot of sense (unless it's somehow a Little Prince planet made of insanely dense material to generate enough gravity to keep the atmosphere).

But I think it's a deliberate choices from producers to handwave away stuff for cinematic effects.

Mando jetpack is already a little bit insane, I can accept a further stretch and that it is powered by an perpetual engine. He is basically an Ork Storm Boy (am I wrong, or in some other SW product Mandalorian board flying ship with them? That's serious altitude and speed).

I appreciate more and more the horizontal structure of the series. Episodes are still indipendent, but there is a single element in each that justify their position in the series. That was my biggest fear entering in S2

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Another good episode, loads of cool easter eggs in this one again.

Did anyone catch the use of First Order and Resistance leitmotifs? I love that kind of stuff.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

Spoiler:

Felt like the final scene with the TIE fighters against the Razorcrest was cool but also a bit naff, Tie fighters are meant to be super agile and these dudes just flew in a straight line and got gunned down.

EDIT: yo, were those death troopers or something at the end?

I’m also enjoying the development of Nevarro.

It ties into what we saw on Tattooine, post-fall of The Empire, in that there was a distinct power vacuum, seemingly filled by anyone with a black heart and a blaster.

But as Greef said at the end of Season 1, they’ve seen off all the scum and villainy, allowing Nevarro to grow and develop.

And all without the aid or fiddling of the nascent New Republic. When we think about it, even in the Outer Rim this is the first time since at least the beginning of the Clone Wars they’ve not been interfered with.

Apply to the wider Galaxy, and Mon Mothma’s decision to not simply pick up the Imperial reins looks like a shrewd move. It allowed the New Republic to be comprised of entirely willing systems. This in turn helps that government to stabilise, and get things going. That done, they become a more attractive proposition to systems that were perhaps more on the fence.

I’m hoping we see such other snippets and curtain pull backs here and there, as they flesh out the Galaxy and it’s inherent politics without making it the focus of the show. They’re nice little tidbits for nerds like me, but don’t leave the casual watcher baffled.

My first thought, since SO Much of this episode also gave me Dark Forces and Jedi Knight vibes,

Dear Disney, more of that please and fewer side quests.

Thanks!

So apparently, the narrator says something interesting during that last scene in the episode if you have descriptive audio enabled.

I can confirm it's there, but I don't want to spoil the surprise.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
So apparently, the narrator says something interesting during that last scene in the episode if you have descriptive audio enabled.

I can confirm it's there, but I don't want to spoil the surprise.

just put it in spoiler tags dude.

 Compel wrote:
My first thought, since SO Much of this episode also gave me Dark Forces and Jedi Knight vibes,

Spoiler:

was that they were Shadow Troopers.



So the experiments with the child are maybe he's trying to create force sensitive soldiers.

This then ties back into some old material about how Mandalorians were very good at fighting Jedi, so setting up how Mando and Bo-Katans group are the best opposition for them.

I have two issues with the show in general so far:



Basically, it's been pretty uneven for such a high-budget project. I don't recall GOT or The Expanse ever having these issues in terms of quality (at least until the GOT writing jumped the shark around s6).

One of the pilots is played by Dave Filoni, the main producer on Clone Wars and Rebels. The other one is played by Paul Sun-Hyung Lee, a Canadian actor and comedian who cosplays ... a hobby he is pretty darn serious about.

In S2E4, Lee’s character Carson Teva tells Cara Dune that he was serving back when the Empire destroyed Alderaan. Greef addresses Teva as “officer” and indeed Teva and Filoni’s characters definitely act like cops, although the basis of their jurisdiction in the Outer Rim is unclear. Anyhow, point is, these guys seem to be GCW veterans now in pseudo-civilian service, so the casting makes sense.

I agree that the action scenes are inconsistent. But sometimes I think this is intentional. In S2E3, Bo Katan and her buddies demonstrate a fight style straight out of the PT-era/Clone Wars (like dance choreography) that makes Din look pretty clumsy by contrast. Din and other “normal people” characters (like Cara and Greef) fight in a more, for lack of a better term, realistic way closer to what we saw in the OT.


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Dear Disney, more of that please and fewer side quests.

Dude what are you talking about? S2E4 is definitely a side quest. The “main quest” is Return The Child (optional: Raise The Child). The whole thing only happens because Din needs to “pull over” for repairs.