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As far as Bobba knows Mace Windu is dead. Killed in the clone wars. He doesn't have any reason to think anything else of it and hasn't for like... 30 years.

My OCD is going crazy here.

Please. There is no character named Bobba Fett.

Boaba Feit?

Bobby Frat?

I knew you guys would understand.

Boba Fettea?

What did I miss - how is Mace Windu still alive?

 Alpharius wrote:
What did I miss - how is Mace Windu still alive?

He's probably not. There were rumours floating about a while back that they were considering bringing him back, but no details. The fans filled in the fact that falling from a great height and/or having bits cut off are not proven fatal for force users, and given that we didn't actually see him go splat, there's every possibility that he survived. Nothing has actually been confirmed, though.

But unless they bring him back as a very broken man who has turned his back on the jedi way and/or the Force, having him still be alive would seem odd. The more former jedi turn out to be still alive, the more it stretches credibility that they all just sat around on backwoods planets for 20 years waiting for Luke to get old enough to take down Vader.

As of right now in Canon, we know of 3 Jedi that survived the purge. Cal, Ahsoka, Kanan(HE aint alive now though) and Ezra.
Now any random mook Jedi can pick Grogu up and they can just make a new one, but thats not the way this show does stuff. So Im guess Ezra or Cal

Has falling damage ever killed anyone in Star Wars?

Luke, the Emperor, Boba, Maul... all fell down a bottomless pit and were just fine.

It's a little better than comic books where nothing kills anyone ever, but not much.

Genuine question, because it was part of Star Wars lore for so long, I genuinely can’t remember not knowing it - but nor can I remember where I learned it from.

Specifically, Luke, Obi-Wan and Yoda being the only remaining Jedi.

This was something I “knew” since forever. And it wasn’t until Rebels that I can think it was challenged due to Kanan.

It’s almost certainly, in my case, no better than second, possibly third hand info. And I don’t recall it ever being explicitly stated in the original trilogy?

It was assumed from the OT, due to Yoda and Ben talking about him being the 'last hope'... Aside from, you know, the other one.

Which is a fair assumption. If there are other jedi still out there, surely they wouldn't have to pin all their hopes on the teenager with no training.

The EU introduced other jedi who were hiding in various ways (including a Hutt!) and an assortment of non-jedi force users like the Nightsisters, but so far as the movies were concerned, Luke was the last of the Jedi.

 insaniak wrote:
It was assumed from the OT, due to Yoda and Ben talking about him being the 'last hope'... Aside from, you know, the other one.

Which is a fair assumption. If there are other jedi still out there, surely they wouldn't have to pin all their hopes on the teenager with no training.

The EU introduced other jedi who were hiding in various ways (including a Hutt!) and an assortment of non-jedi force users like the Nightsisters, but so far as the movies were concerned, Luke was the last of the Jedi.

That line is ambiguous, Luke is our last hope, no there is one other!

They don't specifically say 'Luke is our last Jedi and there are no other Jedi at all because all of them are dead'. In fact it would not make any sense since Yoda refers to Leia as one other and she had no training and had not shown any signs of powers. I'd say their plan was (either) to have Luke redeem Vader figuring only his son could get to him, or that only a Jedi with Skywalker blood was powerful enough to kill him. That's the only way the line makes sense.

However, later in RotJ Yoda says when I'm gone you'll be the last of the Jedi. Now it could be Yoda was wrong, he's been hiding for 20 years and figured he was it. Or he was lying. Or he was pedantic, most of the survivors we've seen on screen were apprentices or left the order, they were not Jedi knights.

Yoda’s last chat could also him being manipulative again, doing what he can to steer Luke down the necessary path?

Making the jump from cartoons to live action is one thing, but the chances of Cal making the leap from an EA computer game to the tv screen must surely be nearly nil.

Ashoka is not a jedi btw. She quit the jedi. Shes just a force user and does not have anything to do with them anymore. She specifically says that in rebels to Kanan and Esra. She doesnt bother saying it to Dinn because why explain semantics to a person who thinks shes a wizard?

One other possibility is Quinlan Voss.

Now in the old EU Quinlan was on Kashyyyk with Yoda and survived Order 66 and just went off to the Outer Rim and had nothing to do with the jedi anymore after that. I believe the story was told in the last issues of Dark Horse "Republic" series.

In the new Canon, there was a novel released called Dark Disciple that was basically a Clone Wars cartoon episode they never got around to making for season 6 of the show that goes over what happened to Asajj Ventress. These events all happened before Order 66 however so I don't know if Quinlan survived Order 66 in the new canon.

The problem with Mace Windu is this: Look at Boba Fett. Now pit him against a Jedi whose, what? 30 years older?. Mace is a badass, but still, he's not Methuselah.

What those two X-Wing pilots need to do is go back Coreward and request the help of Rogue Squadron to fight an Imperial Remnant. They come with their own Force Sensitive ace who could have heard Grogu.

 insaniak wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
What did I miss - how is Mace Windu still alive?

He's probably not. There were rumours floating about a while back that they were considering bringing him back, but no details. The fans filled in the fact that falling from a great height and/or having bits cut off are not proven fatal for force users, and given that we didn't actually see him go splat, there's every possibility that he survived. Nothing has actually been confirmed, though.

But unless they bring him back as a very broken man who has turned his back on the jedi way and/or the Force, having him still be alive would seem odd. The more former jedi turn out to be still alive, the more it stretches credibility that they all just sat around on backwoods planets for 20 years waiting for Luke to get old enough to take down Vader.

Ah. This makes more sense now as a weird fan theory.
Electrocuting and dismembering someone and then tossing him out a skyscraper always seemed definitive enough for me.

The only context in which Mace Windu surviving his fall isn't a naked cash grab in my eyes, is a Clone Wars era story about him surviving that fall and trying to escape only to go out in a blaze of glory as Clone Troopers gun him down. Make it a character piece about Mace, the Jedi, the fall of the order, and the rise of the Empire. Use the movie to flesh out how common people see the Jedi, complete with a tragic ending where a bionic arm Mace tries to rally the people against Palpatine only to see they hate him, don't care, and do nothing as he and a small band of fellows are taken down in a blaze of bolter fire, with the final scene being a nameless youngling in the crowd escaping.

I'd watch that as a tragedy.

 LordofHats wrote:
The only context in which Mace Windu surviving his fall isn't a naked cash grab in my eyes, is a Clone Wars era story about him surviving that fall and trying to escape only to go out in a blaze of glory as Clone Troopers gun him down. Make it a character piece about Mace, the Jedi, the fall of the order, and the rise of the Empire. Use the movie to flesh out how common people see the Jedi, complete with a tragic ending where a bionic arm Mace tries to rally the people against Palpatine only to see they hate him, don't care, and do nothing as he and a small band of fellows are taken down in a blaze of bolter fire, with the final scene being a nameless youngling in the crowd escaping.

I'd watch that as a tragedy.

Nailed it on the head for me. A big part of the Prequel trilogy was to establish the Jedi's arrogance and blindness to their role in allowing the dark side to gain prominence in the Republic. Mace was the poster boy for this issue and despite his own personal prowess, you could see between his own animosity towards Anakin and Ahsokha that he embodied this blind adherence that the Jedi Order could do no wrong. His death was a very real symbol of the Jedi Order's fall when he chose to take matters into his own hands to execute Palpatine.

 Lance845 wrote:
Ashoka is not a jedi btw. She quit the jedi. Shes just a force user and does not have anything to do with them anymore. She specifically says that in rebels to Kanan and Esra. She doesnt bother saying it to Dinn because why explain semantics to a person who thinks shes a wizard?

The ironic thing is that she's probably more of a true Jedi than the prequel era Jedi. That's why she's such an important character IMO. Like Qui-gon before her, she represents the true Jedi way.
She doesn't identify as a Jedi because the Jedi she remembers had lost their way

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Her and Qui-gon are the greatest Jedi. They really show all the others up.

 Galef wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
Ashoka is not a jedi btw. She quit the jedi. Shes just a force user and does not have anything to do with them anymore. She specifically says that in rebels to Kanan and Esra. She doesnt bother saying it to Dinn because why explain semantics to a person who thinks shes a wizard?

The ironic thing is that she's probably more of a true Jedi than the prequel era Jedi. That's why she's such an important character IMO. Like Qui-gon before her, she represents the true Jedi way.
She doesn't identify as a Jedi because the Jedi she remembers had lost their way

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Which is all well and good but it doesn't change that she is not one. The Jedi are a religion and an order. She isn't a member of their parish and doesn't answer to their creed. She follows the force as an individual. She is an island unto herself. Just like how not all darkside users are Sith, She just isn't a Jedi.

Haha “their parish.”

To this day I am still disappointed that the Jedi turned out to be a bunch of complete spankers.

 Manchu wrote:
Haha “their parish.”

I mean, thats what it is lol. The guy from Rogue One was basically a member of their "parish". The Jedi Order is a church no mater how you look at it.

I don’t disagree (Imperial officers in ANH explicitly refer to it as a religion), it’s just a funny application of that term.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
The problem with Mace Windu is this: Look at Boba Fett. Now pit him against a Jedi whose, what? 30 years older?. Mace is a badass, but still, he's not Methuselah.

What those two X-Wing pilots need to do is go back Coreward and request the help of Rogue Squadron to fight an Imperial Remnant. They come with their own Force Sensitive ace who could have heard Grogu.

Do you think maybe they'll introduce Corran Horn to the nuCanon? That would be...interesting, to say the least, although we'll have to find out why he isn't involved in the Sequel Trilogy.

Personally, my bet's on Ezra Bridger being the one who responds. But we won't see him until a (possibly post-credits) scene in the last episode of S2.

Maybe it’s just because this season is overflowing with established characters (and concepts) but I really hope everything from here out is original content.