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Given that he was something of an urban legend to the locals, we can probably assume Obi Wan was on Tatooine a lot in those 20 years. But indeed, there's nothing that says he hung out in the desert spooking the locals that entire time. He could have come and gone frequently over time.

They can do the live action version of him killing Maul.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
They can do the live action version of him killing Maul.

I saw that already. Qui Gon was cool too.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Could be Texas Rangeresque.

Certainly the Lars knew he was out there, and Luke had heard of him.

Wise Old Trouble Shooting Hermit is definitely one approach. Like Edward Woodward, but in spaaaaaaace.

Kung Fu and Kung Fu: The Legend Continues, basically. Monk goes out into the world and punches (stabs) people in the face.
They could even have him hook up with the politician he was crushing on in the Clone Wars series and have a kid, and do the whole rigmarole.


Its creatively bankrupt enough to be exactly what I expect.

Can’t get his jollies off Satine. She’s all dead.

How canon do you consider the current comics? If you go with those, Vader had no idea his kids survived at all. Never even bothered to look. Obi Wan seems to have remained on Tatoo the vast majority of the time.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Can’t get his jollies off Satine. She’s all dead.

Backstory from before she died, then. Or the sister/assistant/cousin he turned to in his grief. Whatever.
He needs some sort of connection while mooching around the galaxy to help the audience care about the character beyond 'memberberries. [Like, you know, a baby yoda or something]

Technically it doesn't need to be a lover and/or kid, but a new apprentice would be even weirder and immersion breaking, a droid doesn't work ('I don't remember ever owning a droid'), and 'buddies' pulls up of the spectre of comic nonsense like the big 4 armed alien in the 50s diner. So tropey nonsense with unexpected kid and past lover is the most Hollywood solution.

I wonder how a show based on Wild West tropes will handle a monk in the desert?

I'd see The Jedi With No Name, Clint Eastwood style, to be more likely. Vader may not know his kids survived, but he sure as hell knows that Obi Wan did, so it's not really going to be safe for him to permanently team up with anyone.

And he's definitely been off Tatooine a few times - knows his way around Mos Eisley, knows the bar where the best pilots hang out. Knows a TIE fighter when he sees it.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Or going really, really wild, and it’s about him Ghost Trolling Vader post-Deathstar. That could be pretty cool!

I will NEVER forgive Ep 9 for denying me this. I think 80% of my love for Ep 8 was leaving the theater dreaming of Mark Hamill taunting Kylo on his throne.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Could be Texas Rangeresque.

Certainly the Lars knew he was out there, and Luke had heard of him.

Wise Old Trouble Shooting Hermit is definitely one approach. Like Edward Woodward, but in spaaaaaaace.

This is more or less what I was expecting. Also the route they went with the 'Kenobi' EU book, which was a pretty good yarn.

 Graphite wrote:
Vader may not know his kids survived, but he sure as hell knows that Obi Wan did, so it's not really going to be safe for him to permanently team up with anyone.

This is a good point. While I'm really hoping the rumours of another fight with Vader are a smokescreen for whatever is actually going on (I'd much prefer that he doesn't actually bump into Vader again until Ep4) it's possible that he gets wind of Vader / Inquisitors hunting him and leaves Tattoine for a bit to keep them away from Luke... make it look like he's actually set up camp somewhere else entirely.

It'd be interesting if they did the Maul thing. How old was Luke when Maul came a'calling and faced down Obi?

According to Wookiepedia, it was two years before ANH.

From what I recall in that episode, I think we saw Luke in silhouette for about half a nano-second, and he looked way smaller than a 16-year old.

Guess he grew up real fast in those two years.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Semi related... now that the Obiwan series is filming... what hell can they actually do in it?

OK there is...

* The one where meets young Luke and tells him a story that becomes a flash back
* The one where someone comes looking for Young Luke and Obi takes care of them
* The one where he helps the Jawas or whoever.
* The one where he has to leave Tattoine for whatever reason then hurry back.

Are there any more possible plots?

This problem is exactly why we have arc-driven TV storytelling. Why bother with plot when you have story?

 Manchu wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Semi related... now that the Obiwan series is filming... what hell can they actually do in it?

OK there is...

* The one where meets young Luke and tells him a story that becomes a flash back
* The one where someone comes looking for Young Luke and Obi takes care of them
* The one where he helps the Jawas or whoever.
* The one where he has to leave Tattoine for whatever reason then hurry back.

Are there any more possible plots?

This problem is exactly why we have arc-driven TV storytelling. Why bother with plot when you have story?

Not really my point, Obiwan is supposed to be on Tatooine, supposed to be watching over Luke and I, dunno, mediating. So how do you build a show around it? We know where he is and where he has to be for Star Wars to happen. There's room in there for a quick hop somewhere but that's about it. It's the problem with prequels and ever finely sliced continuity.

Unlike say the Mandalorian who can go anywhere and do anything he wants now, or Boba Fett who has a clearly defined mission now, and we don't know how it ends.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
From what I recall in that episode, I think we saw Luke in silhouette for about half a nano-second, and he looked way smaller than a 16-year old.

Guess he grew up real fast in those two years.

Yeah. We see someone that’s almost certainly meant to be Luke running home in silhouette. Looked more like a kid than a teen.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Not really my point,

Really? Because you sure framed it that way: “the one where, the one where, the one where” — as if we need a different scenario to justify each episode, like how TV worked over 20 years ago. Arc-driven storytelling is perfect for an Obi-Wan show because there is only one scenario, a lonely life of looking after Luke from afar on Tatooine, that gets explored over the course of several episodes. Rather than each episode needing to be self-contained plot-wise, the story (often driven by character development) is what we follow. So the question is not “what will Obi-Wan do and where will he go from episode to episode?” but rather “what kind of person is he at the beginning of the show and how will he change over the course of it?”

Bad Batch confirmed for 4th May.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Bad Batch confirmed for 4th May.

I'd be a bit surprised if only one show launched on Star Wars Day.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
From what I recall in that episode, I think we saw Luke in silhouette for about half a nano-second, and he looked way smaller than a 16-year old.

Guess he grew up real fast in those two years.

Yeah. We see someone that’s almost certainly meant to be Luke running home in silhouette. Looked more like a kid than a teen.

Part of the issue I think is how the Rebels timeline is kind of wonky. Rebels was initially framed as happening in the middle of the period between RotS and ANH, but it never pinned down an exact year. Later on, it became 5 BBY at the start of the series, but as the series moved forward it seems to fudge its relative placement in time a lot. The series never feels like it a story taking place over the course of 5 years and exactly how time passed from episode to episode or season to season isn't clear. If we take the Luke episode as happening in 4-5 BBY, then Luke would be 10-11 and the scene makes sense.

But that episode is somewhat late in the series, so how is the timeline working here? I think this is part of the issue I and other had with the ending where it feels like Lothal rebelled and then was just ignored with a hand wave from the writers for doing so. If the Galactic Civil War kicked in earnest the next day, I makes sense I guess. But the series sure spends a lot of time finagling what point in time things are supposed to be happening so it can feel a bit like playing fast and loose with chronology.

We also have to remember that Obi-Wan has to go from this to this in 18 years, so...

Very. Hard. Drugs.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We also have to remember that Obi-Wan has to go from this to this in 18 years, so...

Sunscreen and moisturizer are hella expensive on Tatooine.

So he's 38 in RotS... Yeah, that's a tough break to look like that at 56, 66 maybe, but yeah... Ouch...

I also actually think it is too young in Jedi terms to give his life away as he did, it seemed to work because you thought he was mid 70's/80's, but 56 is young to do that, he wouldn't be so slow and cumbersome in his fight with vader either...

They should have just case him as mid 40's in Phantom Menace and it all would sync up.

Or just have had a 20 year gap between episode 1 and 3. Make the Clone Wars last 20 years.

Finally pushed the D+ button again, as there's a fair amount of stuff I want to catch up on.

Decided to watch Rise of Skywalker on a lazy afternoon. I'm at the climax of the film and there's still 40 freaking minutes left. Really can't figure out how this rushes through plot elements (well, macguffin fetching) but plods through the actual execution. Well, except the character interaction, which it largely skips.

Now its just a matter of deciding if the weekend's binge is Mando or Wanda.

Voss wrote:
Finally pushed the D+ button again, as there's a fair amount of stuff I want to catch up on.

Decided to watch Rise of Skywalker on a lazy afternoon. I'm at the climax of the film and there's still 40 freaking minutes left. Really can't figure out how this rushes through plot elements (well, macguffin fetching) but plods through the actual execution. Well, except the character interaction, which it largely skips.

Now its just a matter of deciding if the weekend's binge is Mando or Wanda.

Definitely Wanda. Mando is absolute garbage like everything else Disney has done with star wars. I suspect I'll catch a lot of flak for that

A High Republic character announced today is a slab of rock and is named Geode. Lol. The flamboyant disco pilot looking like he's straight out of the 70's has a pet rock.

Voss wrote:
Now its just a matter of deciding if the weekend's binge is Mando or Wanda.

Also, as a recent subscriber to D+, I didn’t realize they still wanted you to pay more for the new movies. $30 to watch Raya? Yeah, no. Sailed back to the bay for that one.