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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: In the new canon novel Bloodlines, which I’ll spoiler just in case, and to hold myself to my own standards
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Leia’s political career is massively derailed when her identity as Vader’s Daughter is revealed. So his identity as Anakin must’ve been fairly common knowledge, at least in certain circles, for anyone to give a damn.
His identity as Anakin Skywalker and Leias father was revealed *in* Bloodlines. It was not common knowledge.
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Guys, this show clearly has really strong prequel trilogy vibes. That means even casual application of logic will cause the story to fall apart.
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It's been mentioned, but Leia the 10 year old should not be able to outrun any adults. Maybe on her home turf in the forest, but certainly not out in a foreign slum.
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Obi-Wan's slaughtering and processing job is a great excuse for train shots of his crew, and the dull routine he goes through. There cannot be any economic benefit from hauling workers and processing facilities to a carcass of this sandwhale daily. Those expeditions work when they leave for months at a time and return with holds full of meat, which would have also really helped keep a low profile. Cameling into the city, and taking a train to a work site makes you very, very visible.
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And then there's the timing. You call Obiwan, then show up on Tattooine? And the inquisitors miraculously arrive simultaneously to surprise the angry one's trap? Do they always travel in a pack? Doesn't that really defeat the purpose of a jedi hunting group, if you are all on one planet out of the whole Galactic Empire?
None of these things make it a bad show, and the interplay with
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Kumail's fake Jedi
was absolutely delightful! I hope we get more of him. But Kenobi's playing by prequel rules, boys. Of course the waffle house chef recognizes the darts the Jedi library can't. Of course, the younglings can outsmart the trained Jedi masters. Yes, gambling on a child racing a pod is definitely the most logical way to get the hyperdrive parts. Roll with it!
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Leia running away from the most inept kidnappers was unintentionally hilarious. They were duck waddling behind her as actors to purposefully slow down and acting shocked when stoped by branches clearly in their view. It reminded me of a low speed foot chase version of Joey from Friends when he was on the infomercial for a widget that made the almost impossible task of opening a carton of milk/juice feasible.
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As for the Grand Inquisitor, given Palp is always three steps ahead of everyone maybe there's a secret clone program for Force sensitives, I'm sure there was a clone of a Jedi and maybe even Luke in one of the old EU books
I mean, we've had dark side force users on screen survive being cut in half, and being dismembered and dipped in lava. Baldy here just copped a flesh wound, by that standard.
warboss wrote: Leia running away from the most inept kidnappers was unintentionally hilarious. They were duck waddling behind her as actors to purposefully slow down and acting shocked when stoped by branches clearly in their view. It reminded me of a low speed foot chase version of Joey from Friends when he was on the infomercial for a widget that made the almost impossible task of opening a carton of milk/juice feasible.
One of them did have a limp, but the others didn’t really have an excuse.
warboss wrote: Leia running away from the most inept kidnappers was unintentionally hilarious. They were duck waddling behind her as actors to purposefully slow down and acting shocked when stoped by branches clearly in their view. It reminded me of a low speed foot chase version of Joey from Friends when he was on the infomercial for a widget that made the almost impossible task of opening a carton of milk/juice feasible.
One of them did have a limp, but the others didn’t really have an excuse.
Maybe they went to nice criminal university, you know the one that also teaches you to fall over if lightly tapped by tiny heroine sorts (although that one in the last Nolan Batman overdid it by just falling over without Selina even touching him)
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I'm even more excited about Ahsoka than before. Appears Filloni is just using the show as an excuse to make Rebels Season 5. Live action Hera. Live action Ghost. Live action Sabine. Likely a live action Jacen. Live action Murder Bot. All good!
That is not what she said in the episode. By public record they know Leia is not Bail's actual daughter. She found a connection between Leia specifically and Obi. Obi has a metric feth ton of friends on public record from the clone wars. It wasn't Leia that was kidnapped by happenstance. They don't say specifically what she found or what that connection is. But it's obvious she found something more than "Obi Wan has a friend."
Yeah but...
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...she doesn't know what the connection is between 'Lil Leia and Vader.
All he knows is:
1. Obi = Jedi 2. Jedi = Protect 3. Bail = Daughter 4. Obi + Bail = Good friends. 5. Kidnap Daughter of Good Friend = Flush out Obi
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But will it have Live Action Zeb? I'd be curious as to what he'd look like in live action.
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Could go either way. I got the impression he's the only Specter who retired while the other terrorists kept doing what they're doing. Then again if they bring back everyone else, how could they possibly resist in the case of Zeb?
And yeah, he's on my list of things I'd be interested to see in live action. Lucasfilm doesn't exactly have a great track record getting these translations right. You just have to look at the Grand Inquisitor as the latest example. But it sure would be interesting to see.
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Why is the rum always gone?
Vader and the inquisitors cannot confront Obi on Tatooine. Also, the information the inquisitor found about Leia needs to get purged at some point? Because if she, the worst of the inquisitors found it. AND it resulted in all of this including the death of a grand inquisitor. Then how the hell does nobody else find it for another 10 years? The plot itself is stepping on it's own canon toes.
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There is no indication that the Inquisitors know who Leia really is. Reva just used her because she's Bail Organa's daughter, and Bail and Obi-Wan were friends.
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That is not what she said in the episode. By public record they know Leia is not Bail's actual daughter. She found a connection between Leia specifically and Obi. Obi has a metric feth ton of friends on public record from the clone wars. It wasn't Leia that was kidnapped by happenstance. They don't say specifically what she found or what that connection is. But it's obvious she found something more than "Obi Wan has a friend."
at this point you're deliberatly not listening to whats presented and filling in the blanks with rubbish so you can be angry..
all we're told is that
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Reeva discovered a link between Bail and Obi-wan in the archives. and kidnapped Leia because she belives it will lure Obi-wan out of hiding
that is all we're told. is it an absolutely leap in logic to make on Reeva's point? YES IT IS, but as we have seen in MANY cases, sometimes the force allows you to make "intuative leaps" I'm happy with the explination, but then again I'm not sitting through these films, nitpicking it like crazy I'm watching and enjoying.
killing random people on the street for seemingly no reason feels off and Overly evil for him though. Like I thought he was taking them hostage, but nope, just starts offing them.
Also how the heck do tunnels work in this universe?
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I guess that confirms Rebels isn't canon anymore... *sigh*
AduroT wrote: Also how the heck do tunnels work in this universe?
By fiat.
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We’re yet to see the Grand Inquisitor’s corpse. Vader and Maul both survived significantly worse. And with Lightsabers cauterising, if the pain and shock doesn’t do you in, you’re not going to bleed out.
Pretty good entry i though. Obi’s getaway was odd - but could be Anakin pushing through.
I did find Anakin’s projection/Obi’s hallucination pretty well done.
Looking forward to part 4.
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So something I’m sure someone will complain about, and I want to preemptively counter, is the scene where
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Vader kind of suddenly sneaks up on Ben, and people will probably say He totally would have heard him coming with the loud breathing! The comic covers this once.
I’m totally down for Vader killing anyone who fails him or gets in his way or just kind of inconveniences him really, but pulling random civvies out of their houses and killing them in the street as he strolls by seems a step too far I think.
AduroT wrote: So something I’m sure someone will complain about, and I want to preemptively counter, is the scene where
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Vader kind of suddenly sneaks up on Ben, and people will probably say He totally would have heard him coming with the loud breathing! The comic covers this once.
no need to use a comic book, we see vader manage to sneak up on Luke in TESB
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
I’m totally down for Vader killing anyone who fails him or gets in his way or just kind of inconveniences him really, but pulling random civvies out of their houses and killing them in the street as he strolls by seems a step too far I think.
I think i agree with gert on this one.
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Hes deliberately using the killing of innocents as a way to antagonise and draw out Kenobi, in the same vein as the inquisitors in the first episode, where reva threw a knife to force the jedi on the run to reveal himself. As always with the better written dark side users, violence is a means to an end, not the end itself.
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its clear hes not trying to actaully beat obi-wan here, just kinda toying with him and revelling in the despair, and setting him up for some A grade torture later. I had left the captions on when i watched it, and all the stormtroopers were babbling about trying to get across and not finding a way, so i guess the space-coal fire or whatever was impenetrable. I cant remember if we ever see Vader force jump in live action canon, maybe he lost that ability with his legs?
I agree its a bit of a problem with that they met here, but its not insurmountable, and lets face it, we all knew it was coming, and theirs plenty of time for Obi-wan to git gud and prove the new hope line correct.
Hell, he might even he allowing him to escape to let him lead them to the rest of this "Path" they have for funnelling Jedi away, underground railroad style.
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Hes deliberately using the killing of innocents as a way to antagonise and draw out Kenobi, in the same vein as the inquisitors in the first episode, where reva threw a knife to force the jedi on the run to reveal himself. As always with the better written dark side users, violence is a means to an end, not the end itself.
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That. but it's probably even more Empire Strikes Back than that. Remember he tortured Han not for information but to use the emotional bond with Luke to send a Force e-mail. Obi Wan isn't just ethically challenged by the death of innocents, but physically discomforted via the Force. As if one, two, no three miners suddenly cried out in terror and then were silenced.
its clear hes not trying to actaully beat obi-wan here, just kinda toying with him and revelling in the despair, and setting him up for some A grade torture later. I had left the captions on when i watched it, and all the stormtroopers were babbling about trying to get across and not finding a way, so i guess the space-coal fire or whatever was impenetrable. I cant remember if we ever see Vader force jump in live action canon, maybe he lost that ability with his legs?
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Well, they could have just walked around. The mess of space coal didn't get larger after Vader spilled it. The camera just zoomed in so close that the Stormtroopers couldn't see that they could just walk past it five meters to their right.
Or Vader could have snuffed it out via the Force like he did only a minute earlier.
Or he could have lifted Obi Wan up with the Force and brought him across, possibly even at a safe height.
Best to assume he's bored sitting around Mustafar all day. He can finally play with his best buddy again and he's not in a hurry to end it. Come on, let the guy have some fun.
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Why is the rum always gone?
Vader is actually rather fire resistent because of his suit and Could have just walked thru it largely unencumbered. He Is how ever also somewhat afraid of fire, given his history with it. The same comic I referenced above also has Tarkin try employing flame throwers as a means of combating Vader on the theory you can’t block that with a light saber. While it’s proven correct, they barely slow him down before he just pops their fuel tanks with the force instead, but Tarkin notes his body language in that fight suggested some actual fear on his part.
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