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 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
It's honestly not that big a deal or hard to justify, its not like the very few units we have that benefit from that are going to do anything spectacular with that ability.

And it makes sense from a fluff perspective, but that's not the point of this thread.

So what's the price on the Ridgerunner going to be, I'm thinking 50$

Im betting same price as the ork buggies.

That'd be nice, let's hope they are.

On second thought we'll see what's in wave 2 today as well

 shinros wrote:
Hmmm are there generic cult creed options? Seems kinda strange they don't have a table for those who want to run a generic cult.

Probably best to think of the rules less as representing a specific cult, but more as archetypes depending on there background or home world with the named cult being an example of the type.

 p5freak wrote:
I know, but it doesnt matter. Its ridiculous that they even have those abilities.

Any more ridiculous than what Space Marines get? If you want to go fluff wise, you should only be playing with 5 maybe 10 Spacemarines MAX. Spacemarines get so much that they shouldn't be either. Were you crying foul when Spacemarines were getting all the goodies in previous editions and others were not?

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 shinros wrote:
Hmmm are there generic cult creed options? Seems kinda strange they don't have a table for those who want to run a generic cult.

Probably best to think of the rules less as representing a specific cult, but more as archetypes depending on there background or home world with the named cult being an example of the type.

Yeah, that's what my mindset is now leaning towards. Thing is I only play chaos and there is a renegade legion choice so I was thrown off here.

 p5freak wrote:
So, genestealer cult infantry does not suffer the -1 to hit for moving and firing heavy weapons. How is that possible that some mutated weirdos can do that better than SM ? Not even SM veterans, or dev squads get this. Those genestealer heavy weapons are probably improvised rock grinder tools, yet they can do it better than SM with real weapons ? WTF ? On top of that a model probably will only cost 7 points, and you can get 20 of them, to protect those weapons from losing them. Even better, for 1CP they can return slain D6 models to a troop choice unit, for free, no reinforcement points needed

This just in. The hive mind is better at genetic enginering then the emperor.

Ridgerunner, Abominant, Aberrants, and Biophagus next week.

like the varied paint schemes

I see seven different arm sets in the unit.

Danny76 wrote:
I see seven different arm sets in the unit.

Looks like the same configurations as the TaC box, which is good. They're cool models and you can make some semi-varied poses, and even more with some creative cutting and greenstuff.

Is that how many were in that set?

You won't be able to build a whole team of Aberrant with 1 type of weapon from the kit. Some model use the same weapon bits. So if one was built with the hammer, the other had to take pick.

 Carnikang wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
I see seven different arm sets in the unit.

Looks like the same configurations as the TaC box, which is good. They're cool models and you can make some semi-varied poses, and even more with some creative cutting and greenstuff.

Exact same models, just sold separately now.

Chopstick wrote:
You won't be able to build a whole team of Aberrant with 1 type of weapon from the kit. Some model use the same weapon bits. So if one was built with the hammer, the other had to take pick.

I hadn't noticed that, but looking at the instructions it seems you're right. That's disappointing.

... maybe I should leave this here
https://imgur.com/a/EJXxpZC

 aracersss wrote:
... maybe I should leave this here
https://imgur.com/a/EJXxpZC

Unfortunate that we don't have the rest of the weapon list. I am particularly curious about whether the heavy seismic cannon got any upgrades (since the regular one had its damage output increased by 50%, and the HML got its damage output doubled) and whether the clearance incinerator got a boost because the atalan incinerator is known to be its old statline.

I am also curious what the heavy mortar on the ridgerunner does.

Also, apparently increasing the strength of your flamer from 3 to 4 is worth six times as much to GW.

prices (and whats due for preorder next week) from my friendly facebook based plastics dealer

Genestealer Cults: Aberrants – Troop 51-60 = £25 RRP
Genestealer Cults: Achilles Ridgerunner – Vehicle 51-61 = £27.50
Genestealer Cults: Biophagus Hero - 51-44 = £15 RRP
Genestealer Cults: Abominant Hero - 51-59 = £15 RRP

pleased to see the ridgerunner is the same price as the ork buggies rather than edged up a bit

Heavy Mortar: Heavy D6 S5 AP -1 D 1 can target non visible units

Clearance Incinerator: Heavy 2D6, S5 AP-1 D1

I think the heavy seismic canon is something like this:

Heavy 6 S4 -1 D2
Heavy 3 S8 -2 D3

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
prices (and whats due for preorder next week) from my friendly facebook based plastics dealer

Genestealer Cults: Aberrants – Troop 51-60 = £25 RRP
Genestealer Cults: Achilles Ridgerunner – Vehicle 51-61 = £27.50
Genestealer Cults: Biophagus Hero - 51-44 = £15 RRP
Genestealer Cults: Abominant Hero - 51-59 = £15 RRP

pleased to see the ridgerunner is the same price as the ork buggies rather than edged up a bit

thanks! have you got aos prices too?

 Astmeister wrote:
Heavy Mortar: S5 AP -1 D 1 can target non visible units

Clearance Incinerator: Heavy 2D6, S5 AP-1 D1

I think the heavy seismic canon is something like this:

Heavy 6 S4 -1 D2
Heavy 3 S8 -2 D3

Oh that is very nice. If the prices stay the same/similar I'm right pleased with the clearance incinerator buff. Heavy mortar is trash, seems like the only way to even try to run the ridgerunner is a stationary lascannon boat, which is disappointing, but I'm not about to pay 63pts for something that has effectively 2 heavy stubbers and 1 heavy bolter with no transport capacity. And people say the boomdakka snazzwagon's damage output is disappointing!

zamerion wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
prices (and whats due for preorder next week) from my friendly facebook based plastics dealer

Genestealer Cults: Aberrants – Troop 51-60 = £25 RRP
Genestealer Cults: Achilles Ridgerunner – Vehicle 51-61 = £27.50
Genestealer Cults: Biophagus Hero - 51-44 = £15 RRP
Genestealer Cults: Abominant Hero - 51-59 = £15 RRP

pleased to see the ridgerunner is the same price as the ork buggies rather than edged up a bit

thanks! have you got aos prices too?

No, the GW rep gave them to him early (normally they provide the list on Wednesday) as he was ordering so much cult stuff and no doubt hopes he'll do the same for this lot

In the codex a start collecting GSC box is mentioned. It says something like "The army in the picture is comprised of a SC GSC box" and it shows Neos, Acos, a Goliath and a Primus.

primus without patriarch or magus? ... are they getting individual releases?

the_scotsman wrote:

 Astmeister wrote:
Heavy Mortar: S5 AP -1 D 1 can target non visible units

Clearance Incinerator: Heavy 2D6, S5 AP-1 D1

I think the heavy seismic canon is something like this:

Heavy 6 S4 -1 D2
Heavy 3 S8 -2 D3

Oh that is very nice. If the prices stay the same/similar I'm right pleased with the clearance incinerator buff. Heavy mortar is trash, seems like the only way to even try to run the ridgerunner is a stationary lascannon boat, which is disappointing, but I'm not about to pay 63pts for something that has effectively 2 heavy stubbers and 1 heavy bolter with no transport capacity. And people say the boomdakka snazzwagon's damage output is disappointing!

The link above says that the clearance incinerator is 30 points. Sound quite expensive to me, but it is also a good weapon now.
The ridgerunners might be usefull with an Atalan Jackal for +1 to hit. I mean they are from their rules just bloated scout sentinels with everything more. So you should not expect wonders from them. On the other hand the D3 las cannon shoots can very well kill a tank in one round. That is not to be underestimated. And in comparison to the rock grinder it does not need to move, since it does not transport anything.

 aracersss wrote:
primus without patriarch or magus? ... are they getting individual releases?

They can't be released separately as they're all on the same sprue...


I wonder...maybe they've got a new Primus model that they're putting into that set? We did see a new Magus released as an individual blister just for that purpose.

€35,- is a bit steep for the Achilles, but damn it, kinda want one.

 BrookM wrote:
€35,- is a bit steep for the Achilles, but damn it, kinda want one.

I'd argue that it's reasonably priced and makes the Ork buggies look way overpriced.

The whole Start Collecting comment has me VERY interested to see any pictures relating to it now.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
€35,- is a bit steep for the Achilles, but damn it, kinda want one.

I'd argue that it's reasonably priced and makes the Ork buggies look way overpriced.

The whole Start Collecting comment has me VERY interested to see any pictures relating to it now.

Indeed... This one has options!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
€35,- is a bit steep for the Achilles, but damn it, kinda want one.

I'd argue that it's reasonably priced and makes the Ork buggies look way overpriced.

The whole Start Collecting comment has me VERY interested to see any pictures relating to it now.

I mean, as someone who very frequently uses the ork buggies, I gotta disagree with that sentiment. The only two buggies the ridgerunner outperforms are the snazzwagon (arguably pays for -1 to hit, burna bombs and the ability to actually move around and fire its weapons) and the squigbuggy...which....gold star for that, lol. A wet fart in a paper bag outperforms the squigbuggy.

The lascannon variant is 40 points less than the shokkjump dragsta, which gets 25% more damage vs vehicles, the ability to move and fire its weapons, and clan traits (which can be +1 to hit, super-salamander hit wound and damage reroll+obsec+6++, or reroll 1s to hit, ridgerunner doesn't get cult traits). I'd take the shokkjump over the lascannon ridgerunner any day, the ridgerunner gets to move 9" once and then it better be within 24" of every target its ever going to want to shoot for the rest of the game.

I'd REALLY rather take a skrapjet over the lascannon ridgerunner, since it gets double the stubber shots, the same anti-tank output, the ability to move and shoot, clan traits, and it's a space marine with a chainfist in melee with bonus mortal wounds on the charge.

The KBB really fills a different role. It's tough to compare a stationary gunline vehicle with an anti-tank gun with a vehicle with an anti-light vehicle gun that also has 4d3 flamer shots strapped onto it.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
€35,- is a bit steep for the Achilles, but damn it, kinda want one.

I'd argue that it's reasonably priced and makes the Ork buggies look way overpriced.

The whole Start Collecting comment has me VERY interested to see any pictures relating to it now.

I mean, as someone who very frequently uses the ork buggies, I gotta disagree with that sentiment. The only two buggies the ridgerunner outperforms are the snazzwagon (arguably pays for -1 to hit, burna bombs and the ability to actually move around and fire its weapons) and the squigbuggy...which....gold star for that, lol. A wet fart in a paper bag outperforms the squigbuggy.

The lascannon variant is 40 points less than the shokkjump dragsta, which gets 25% more damage vs vehicles, the ability to move and fire its weapons, and clan traits (which can be +1 to hit, super-salamander hit wound and damage reroll+obsec+6++, or reroll 1s to hit, ridgerunner doesn't get cult traits). I'd take the shokkjump over the lascannon ridgerunner any day, the ridgerunner gets to move 9" once and then it better be within 24" of every target its ever going to want to shoot for the rest of the game.

I'd REALLY rather take a skrapjet over the lascannon ridgerunner, since it gets double the stubber shots, the same anti-tank output, the ability to move and shoot, clan traits, and it's a space marine with a chainfist in melee with bonus mortal wounds on the charge.

The KBB really fills a different role. It's tough to compare a stationary gunline vehicle with an anti-tank gun with a vehicle with an anti-light vehicle gun that also has 4d3 flamer shots strapped onto it.

We're talking about the price of the physical model...I'd say it makes them look overpriced with the fact that the Orks are single-build but same price.