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I've read today's fluff, I don't recall reading about smaller ones coming out when they die. Have I just misread it?

 Mantle wrote:
According to the new bit of vigilus fluff that we got today when the spider demon engine thing dies, smaller versions of itself and other horrific creatures come out of it, maybe it is a transport for possessed?
Also apparently the flying primaris dudes weapons shot missiles of some sort.

could just be some sort of rule that when it dies it explodes extra good

BrianDavion wrote:
could just be some sort of rule that when it dies it explodes extra good

Extra Mortal Wounds!

My understanding is that the dome referenced is part of the Forge's architecture. Daemon spider engines pour out of it, after it is destroyed by missiles shot by Space Marines flyers.

The spiders were coming out of the factory, not another spider. However they did mention an even larger daemon engine with the spiders. This might be an even larger vehicle we didn’t see yet.

Mendi Warrior wrote:
My understanding is that the dome referenced is part of the Forge's architecture. Daemon spider engines pour out of it, after it is destroyed by missiles shot by Space Marines flyers.

You are correct sir it clearly states a trio of marine fliers destroy the dome structure with missiles allowing hundreds of Denon engines to come out, most interestingly it mentions other much larger engines. Possibly a new defiler?

Truly terrifying

Damn spiders...

I read it as the dome exploding was like another building housing more of the same daemon engines...

On the bigger engine mentioned. The auto cannon pic and the leg pic plus the auto cannons wording was MORTAL, I THINK TODAY’S DARK VISION OF A FUTURE MODEL IS THE MOST POWERFUL YET! GAZE UPON ITS GLORY.

Why would the auto cannon be the most powerful model yet...unless of course it's an updated defiler

I would love larger daemon engines.
"Pimp my old Defiler" will be easy if there are alternate builds and leftover bits.
My only certainty so far is that all of this will hurt ... this will really hurt … My wallet will die in excruciating pain (again)

 Mantle wrote:
According to the new bit of vigilus fluff that we got today when the spider demon engine thing dies, smaller versions of itself and other horrific creatures come out of it, maybe it is a transport for possessed?
Also apparently the flying primaris dudes weapons shot missiles of some sort.

Nah the "ridged dome" they climb out of is another factory in the distance. And there is no mention of any Primaris Vanguard troopers. The story describes "boxy blue aircraft of the Emperor’s lapdogs". So probably Ultramarines Storm Ravens/Talons/Hawks.

also pure speculation but look at the middle bottom of the current defiler it's rounded torso... could fit with that preview with the chains coming down

I doubt it's a new defiler. The defiler isn't that popular of a unit, and it's kit is still functional. It's much more likely to be a new unit.

Couldn't you say the same about possessed, though? (This example relies on the hope that possessed get a new kit, not just Greater Possessed.)

Do you really think that, given the information about Primaris Possessed, that regular Possessed are getting a new kit as well?

GaroRobe wrote:
Couldn't you say the same about possessed, though? (This example relies on the hope that possessed get a new kit, not just Greater Possessed.)

People like possessed as a unit in terms of lore and all, they just don't get used much due to bad stats. People want to use them. The defiler doesn't have the same appeal. It's kind of iconic, but mostly just because it was the only daemon engine kit for a long time, and it's always been kind of ridiculous. I have 2 so i have a fondness for them and wish they were better, but I understand that they probably won't ever be.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Do you really think that, given the information about Primaris Possessed, that regular Possessed are getting a new kit as well?

This assumes the greater possessed isn't something like an elite choice character like how every updated 8th edition faction has by the bucket and that the set wouldn't also have normal possessed to go with their big daddy.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Do you really think that, given the information about Primaris Possessed, that regular Possessed are getting a new kit as well?

Why are we calling these figures "Primaris Possessed" now?

Maybe I missed this somewhere along the way.

But has anyone suggested that these 2 Greater Possessed models (it appears to only be 2 from the artwork, but will of course wait for clarification) will work in a similar fashion to how Geminae or the new bodyguards for Calgar work?

Seems to make the most sense to me, a perfect counter grouping of models to go against Calgar and his bodyguard.

That was theorized a few pages back. You'd think it would be something that the article would have mentioned. Personally, the moon shaped claw just seems pretty uninspired for a model that will make up half a unit, if they are two per squad.

GaroRobe wrote:
That was theorized a few pages back. You'd think it would be something that the article would have mentioned. Personally, the moon shaped claw just seems pretty uninspired for a model that will make up half a unit, if they are two per squad.

The second Possessed alongside the Master of Possession in the artwork at the top of the villain article has the moon claw. However, there are two other Marines with similar eyes to the two Possessed in the background. I'm still holding out hope for a full kit of Possessed.

GaroRobe wrote:
That was theorized a few pages back. You'd think it would be something that the article would have mentioned. Personally, the moon shaped claw just seems pretty uninspired for a model that will make up half a unit, if they are two per squad.

Of course, it was a dumb theory. Unless you are talking about something else than the name.

 Nova_Impero wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Do you really think that, given the information about Primaris Possessed, that regular Possessed are getting a new kit as well?

Why are we calling these figures "Primaris Possessed" now?

'We' aren't, but apparently H.B.M.C. feels that there isn't enough actual Primaris releases for him to rage about.

 Crimson wrote:

 Nova_Impero wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Do you really think that, given the information about Primaris Possessed, that regular Possessed are getting a new kit as well?

Why are we calling these figures "Primaris Possessed" now?

'We' aren't, but apparently H.B.M.C. feels that there isn't enough actual Primaris releases for him to rage about.

Who's raging now?

Really hoping it's a new unit and not just a new character. I want a full squad of bad boys of that quality. What an amazing sculpt.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Nova_Impero wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Do you really think that, given the information about Primaris Possessed, that regular Possessed are getting a new kit as well?

Why are we calling these figures "Primaris Possessed" now?

'We' aren't, but apparently H.B.M.C. feels that there isn't enough actual Primaris releases for him to rage about.

Who's raging now?

Just you.

Primaris Possessed seems appropriate to me because fluff-wise they have been teasing chaos really wanting some of that sweet Primaris Marine action. It seems like a no-brainer that these would be Primaris-tier.

 Starfarer wrote:
Just you.

Yes, the laughing Ork faces and the fact that I like the model really shows off the rage.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Really hoping it's a new unit and not just a new character. I want a full squad of bad boys of that quality. What an amazing sculpt.

Well there a few options:

1. It's a character, in which case boo.
2. It's one of a pair of bodyguard. Also boo.
3. It's the one big thing in a new unit of Possessed (like the ATV in the GSC Outrider kit). That's... fine I guess.
4. It's part of a new Primaris Greater Possessed kit that has 5 models (probably with limited poses but lots of different arms/heads).

On Voxcast they specifically mentioned starting to upsize Chaos Marines with the Thousands Sons and Death Guard release because they knew they were rebooting Imperial marines with Primaris. The true scaling of Marines by GW has been in the works for years.

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Couldn't you say the same about possessed, though? (This example relies on the hope that possessed get a new kit, not just Greater Possessed.)

People like possessed as a unit in terms of lore and all, they just don't get used much due to bad stats. People want to use them. The defiler doesn't have the same appeal. It's kind of iconic, but mostly just because it was the only daemon engine kit for a long time, and it's always been kind of ridiculous. .

If the Defiler doesn't have the same appeal it may be because its a really silly looking model and always has been. It looks like a He-Man toy. no wonder people don't want to use it. What better way to get people to want to use the unit then a new model that actually looks amazing?

 jake wrote:

 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
Couldn't you say the same about possessed, though? (This example relies on the hope that possessed get a new kit, not just Greater Possessed.)

People like possessed as a unit in terms of lore and all, they just don't get used much due to bad stats. People want to use them. The defiler doesn't have the same appeal. It's kind of iconic, but mostly just because it was the only daemon engine kit for a long time, and it's always been kind of ridiculous. .

If the Defiler doesn't have the same appeal it may be because its a really silly looking model and always has been. It looks like a He-Man toy. no wonder people don't want to use it. What better way to get people to want to use the unit then a new model that actually looks amazing?

Sure, if you want to redeem the defiler to the fanbase you probably could. But why bother when you can introduce something totally new with no baggage? The problem isn't just that the kit is bad, it's that the whole unit design is a bit silly. Putting out another defiler with a higher level of detail doesn't solve the problem.