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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Lasplasma Bolt Sniper Missile Launcher!

It really is the only way.

Eliminator would be kind of cool with Las talons, to make a sneaky devastator squad.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Lasplasma Bolt Sniper Missile Launcher!

It really is the only way.

What is this nonsense? WH40k Munchkin Edition... oh wait.

That's fine.

As long as they keep the sniper-flamers exclusive for the new Sisters

Well, flamers are already an excellent anti-air weapon in this edition.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You guys are missing his ultimate end-goal: The Plasma Bolt Rifle!!!

Isn't that the Plasma Incinerator?

No, it's just a plasma gun that for some reason when you shoot it sprays spent bolt casings all over the ground in all the artwork.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Lasplasma Bolt Sniper Missile Launcher!

It fires a laser to disrupt and plasmafy the air creating a pocket of charged particles enveloping a missile traveling down a low pressure air tunnel... allowing it to travel faster than the speed of sound without the distinctive pop of super sonic travel, that would give away the shooters position... as the missile closes in on its target the plasma weakens the targets armor, an adamantine tipped bolter round is fired from the missile tip to break a hole in the armor large enough for the missile to enter and detonate.

R48 Str7 AP -3 Dmg 1+2+1+d3

Don't forget its carried by a Gravis armour wearing, cameoline cloak draped, stealth jump pack wearing primaris with auto-flare launchers and ankle fired grenades.

 aka_mythos wrote:

Don't forget its carried by a Gravis armour wearing, cameoline cloak draped, stealth jump pack wearing primaris with auto-flare launchers and ankle fired grenades.

From a Chapter called the Roughnecks, right?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

Don't forget its carried by a Gravis armour wearing, cameoline cloak draped, stealth jump pack wearing primaris with auto-flare launchers and ankle fired grenades.

From a Chapter called the Roughnecks, right?

Haha. Yes. One in 5 such marines can be equipped with a shoulder nuke that launches the equivalent of Deathstrike missile once per game.

 Symbio Joe wrote:
Bad news on the conversion site of things. The venomcrawler is not big enough to easily fuse him with the soulgrinder torso to create a chaos-drider like being. I'll try to make it work though.

Also the Captain’s helmet on his belt is in two parts. Doesn’t bother Me, but I know some people were wanting to cut it off to put on his head so that’s probably rather annoying.

 Thanatos73 wrote:

 ph34r wrote:
Are there any Black Legion color schemes other than... Black?

Would doing Sons of Horus or Luna Wolves paint be reasonable? How about something else entirely like all bronze or something?

Well, the Black is part of their thing. Covering their shame. Luna Wolves or Sons of Horus would probably be frowned upon as they kinda pushed that part of their existence away.

But a BL themed army right after the name change still sporting the Sons’ colors would be cool. Or a separate Sons’ warband using BL rules that refuses to accept Abaddon as their leader. A BL warband painted mostly bronze with black details would look pretty awesome too.

And of course warp being warp it\s in realm of possibility to have largish(more than large enough for the 40k pittance skirmish purposes) force that got weird time jump so for them heresy was just yesterday so to speak so still carry SoH livery.

Albeit for that to make sense you would need to tone down on modern daemonic thingies and Abbaddon would look bit of out of place there.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You guys are missing his ultimate end-goal: The Plasma Bolt Rifle!!!

But... but... plasma Boltgun rounds kinda make sense?

..only if they do mortal wounds though however.

Aren’t plasma bullets basically how Pulse Rifles work?

 Symbio Joe wrote:

 ScarletRose wrote:

 Symbio Joe wrote:
Bad news on the conversion site of things. The venomcrawler is not big enough to easily fuse him with the soulgrinder torso to create a chaos-drider like being. I'll try to make it work though.

I'm guessing the intent is to keep it as a soul grinder, but would a smaller torso work? I would think maybe the plastic demon prince since it's not that big.

It could be the better solution considering the size, but I'd have to fix the hunched over pose of the demon prince. Thx for the input I will stare at plastic now some more.

Or wait for the BSF ogre and try that body

It wouldn't be the end of the world if the Eliminators got an option to swap for large anti-materiel rifles that fired fin stabilized discarding sabot melta bolts (FSDSMB).

 BrotherGecko wrote:
It wouldn't be the end of the world if the Eliminators got an option to swap for large anti-materiel rifles that fired fin stabilized discarding sabot melta bolts (FSDSMB).

There is a distinct lack of melta weapons in the Primaris line, I could see something like that. They deploy up close, which makes busting vehicles a little easier.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
It wouldn't be the end of the world if the Eliminators got an option to swap for large anti-materiel rifles that fired fin stabilized discarding sabot melta bolts (FSDSMB).

There is a distinct lack of melta weapons in the Primaris line, I could see something like that. They deploy up close, which makes busting vehicles a little easier.

Nah they should be long range anti-vehicle killer variants. Just make them reroll To Wound like the Vertus Praetor's melta missile.

They would basically have rifles that shoot impact detonating melta bombs.

Give Eliminators "plasma snipers" (which can double-up as anti-tank weapons) and there's no reason to pick any other Heavy Support-choice.

Nah, Eliminators are fine as is, and with their 3 different ammo-types I doubt they'll get more options in their own boxed set.

GW should instead focus on spreading some love to the Vanguard units that actually needs it: Reivers and Infiltrators.

I’m hoping for Melta on the Supressors myself. Make use of their speed. I also want Melta Bombs for Reivers.

 AduroT wrote:
I’m hoping for Melta on the Supressors myself. Make use of their speed. I also want Melta Bombs for Reivers.

Or a melta grenade launcher.

Reivers w melta bombs would be badass

 MinscS2 wrote:
Give Eliminators "plasma snipers" (which can double-up as anti-tank weapons) and there's no reason to pick any other Heavy Support-choice.

Nah, Eliminators are fine as is, and with their 3 different ammo-types I doubt they'll get more options in their own boxed set.

GW should instead focus on spreading some love to the Vanguard units that actually needs it: Reivers and Infiltrators.

I'd advocate for an either or. Character killers or vehicle killers but not both on the same squad.

Other than that though there are tons of reasons to use other heavy support choices. For one eliminators can be killed with minimal effort by lots of stuff. Those cloaks count for nothing when hit by cover ignoring weaponry. Once cover goes away they are just 6 MEQ. In close combat they are...primaris lol.

If you spend the effort the Eliminators benefit nicely from the Librarian’s only shoot the closest power.

Hmmmmm... Anti tank for the Eliminators... How about giving the Sergeant a fancy missile launcher system, and the two grunts laser targeters to direct said missiles?

 AduroT wrote:
If you spend the effort the Eliminators benefit nicely from the Librarian’s only shoot the closest power.

Hmmmmm... Anti tank for the Eliminators... How about giving the Sergeant a fancy missile launcher system, and the two grunts laser targeters to direct said missiles?

People were already screaming that the Imperium was copying Tau when they saw the plasma weapons on Primaris(even though they resembled the Ad Mech plasma ), do you really want to add Markerlights into the mix?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
If you spend the effort the Eliminators benefit nicely from the Librarian’s only shoot the closest power.

Hmmmmm... Anti tank for the Eliminators... How about giving the Sergeant a fancy missile launcher system, and the two grunts laser targeters to direct said missiles?

People were already screaming that the Imperium was copying Tau when they saw the plasma weapons on Primaris(even though they resembled the Ad Mech plasma ), do you really want to add Markerlights into the mix?

Tau already stole the laser targeters from guard lasgun technology.

It would be great if they actually made possessed playable or even gave them not crappy looking models...

macluvin wrote:
It would be great if they actually made possessed playable or even gave them not crappy looking models...

Ha!

Yeah, I keep wanting to like them, but they're just so mechanically and aesthetically lame... Even the new ones look like a joke, despite better proportions.

Racerguy180 wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
I’m hoping for Melta on the Supressors myself. Make use of their speed. I also want Melta Bombs for Reivers.

Or a melta grenade launcher.

Reivers w melta bombs would be badass

IMHO melta bombs are mostly useless in 8th (You should be able to use grenades in CC!) but there are a lot of units that should be able to take them that can’t. Reivers being at the top of that list. MBs are the marine demolition charge. You think that a unit designed to cause disruption and terror in the enemy backfield might want a few of those, right?

And it’s not like hanging one off a marine’s belt is a particularly difficult bit of modeling. Just toss one or two on a primaris sprue somewhere and FAQ the rules to let them take them. They’ve aded them to units before.

 Nevelon wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
I’m hoping for Melta on the Supressors myself. Make use of their speed. I also want Melta Bombs for Reivers.

Or a melta grenade launcher.

Reivers w melta bombs would be badass

IMHO melta bombs are mostly useless in 8th (You should be able to use grenades in CC!) but there are a lot of units that should be able to take them that can’t. Reivers being at the top of that list. MBs are the marine demolition charge. You think that a unit designed to cause disruption and terror in the enemy backfield might want a few of those, right?

And it’s not like hanging one off a marine’s belt is a particularly difficult bit of modeling. Just toss one or two on a primaris sprue somewhere and FAQ the rules to let them take them. They’ve aded them to units before.

Melta Bombs are so useless they could be removed and nobody would notice. Way too limited of range, can't be used in melee anymore, and it only rerolls vs vehicles. At least Melta weapons have a more generic application.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
I’m hoping for Melta on the Supressors myself. Make use of their speed. I also want Melta Bombs for Reivers.

Or a melta grenade launcher.

Reivers w melta bombs would be badass

IMHO melta bombs are mostly useless in 8th (You should be able to use grenades in CC!) but there are a lot of units that should be able to take them that can’t. Reivers being at the top of that list. MBs are the marine demolition charge. You think that a unit designed to cause disruption and terror in the enemy backfield might want a few of those, right?

And it’s not like hanging one off a marine’s belt is a particularly difficult bit of modeling. Just toss one or two on a primaris sprue somewhere and FAQ the rules to let them take them. They’ve aded them to units before.

Melta Bombs are so useless they could be removed and nobody would notice. Way too limited of range, can't be used in melee anymore, and it only rerolls vs vehicles. At least Melta weapons have a more generic application.

Give them a melee profile and extend the reroll to affect monstrous creatures too? That would be a lot more fitting I reckon.

Then release an accessory sprue with a meltabomb on it, and allow my AM sergeants to take them again for the lolz.