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 Crimson wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

The Mistress of Repentance is absolutely the most likely source of outrage coming from left wing sources for the new sisters of battle release, along with claims of fetishization involving the female penitent engine pilot.

The post about the Repentia absolutely had to highlight the repentia as strong/badass to provoke mild moralistic outrage from the right and omit the mistress to prevent moralistic outrage from the left. The mistress is definitely going to be slipped in as a background character and not overly highlighted in the sisters release. If they follow the recent trend in the big bundle box sets of including monopose minis then coming out with the MPPKs later with more options, I almost guarantee that's the PR decision behind making the monopose PE locked into a male pilot sculpt.

If so, my fingers are crossed that Burning Corpse Flamer Sister is a thing that will only appear in the limited box run, and not every sister with a flamer will be required to have a corpsebuddy.

The amount of people on Dakka who do not know that hobby knives exist worries me.

Having the only available sculpt for a flamer, a weapon you can have....IIRC...four of, in a five-woman squad, be a monopose figure with a very distinct pose standing on top of something would be a pretty silly decision, regardless of players' ability to take a hobby knife to the miniature and change it up.

Sure, it'd be easy for her to be standing on a rock, or a low hill, or a pile of skulls, maybe a bucket or something, but it would still look fairly silly and could be entirely avoided by just..giving players flamers as a bit and letting them put the flamer on whatever mini they want.

I fully expect this to be the case in the full kit, since we've seen these kinds of monopose-then-full-release box sets with

-Chaos Marines
-Shadowspear Primaris
-Death Guard
-Regular Primaris
-Deathwatch
-Genestealer Cult

You know, pretty much every time they release a whole faction using a new box set.


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 Casbyness wrote:
Couple of serious questions:

- Are there melta guns on the sister squad sprues? GW knows we need like 4 of that single gun alone for each five-sister Dominion squad, right?
- Are there Celestian options/accessories on any sprues?

Still not sold on the Repentia at all, but might be worth buying a sprue of 5 just for the accessories, so they can be added to other models in the range.

Will consider the Penitent Engine if there's an alternative female pilot.

Current plan has switched to buying and converting multiple copies of the Mistress into a Canoness and Celestian Squad. Totally agree the official Canoness is garbage, I'd sooner use the original Nagash model to lead my Sisters army than her.

My dog that works at GW says there are no melta guns in any of the sisters kits, and GW will be personally coming to the houses of people who own the current sculpts and burning them.

So there is no actual issue then? The multipart kits will indeed most likely let you put the special weapons on any model.

And even on monopose models swapping a bolter and flamer around on duplicate models wouldn't be exactly hard.

 Crimson wrote:

If so, my fingers are crossed that Burning Corpse Flamer Sister is a thing that will only appear in the limited box run, and not every sister with a flamer will be required to have a corpsebuddy.

The amount of people on Dakka who do not know that hobby knives exist worries me.

It's been pointed out before in this very thread that yes hobby knives exist, and some people suck at using them, some people don't own them, and many people don't like having to do surgery to a model just to keep it from looking stupid.


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 BrookM wrote:

Spoiler:

Loving the look and feel of this one in particular. I though I was safe from this release, but it's hard to say no to a Seraphim with guns akimbo in a John Woo pose, only thing missing is the doves flying everywhere.

I'm going to use the doves from the hopitaller!

ERJAK wrote:
That was the most obnoxious start to a paragraph I've ever seen. Yeah, 'outrage' okay.

See you say that, but when the Sisters Repentia were revealed there was one person on GW's facebook that praised GW for not having the Mistress as she would take the Repentia's agency away.

It was one of the weirdest comments I've ever seen about plastic miniatures.

I sometimes wonder how people here manage to even assemble their models... It is unlikely that the corpse is even in the same piece than the leg, and if it is you can just chew it off or do whatever you normally do to get the models off the sprue.

Successful Penitent Engine pilots* quickly figure out that you walk BACKWARDS until you're in flamer and/or saw range. If anybody complains about this behaviour, the male pilots can point out that they're literally men under giant robot arms, so they shouldn't even exist. The female pilots have to pull the old Simpsons defence and say a psyker did it.

More serious, I did NOT expect an army box for SoBs. A two faction set was unlikely, but seemed possible. But a whole box of sisters only? No way I'd have guessed this. Though I fear that this'll be more like their online bundles saving you zero currencies but limiting ehat you get instead of the battalion boxes of old or even the current battleforces.


*well, not that successful if you want to be a martyr.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
See you say that, but when the Sisters Repentia were revealed there was one person on GW's facebook that praised GW for not having the Mistress as she would take the Repentia's agency away.

It was one of the weirdest comments I've ever seen about plastic miniatures.

Also quite possibly a joke.

 Crimson wrote:
So there is no actual issue then? The multipart kits will indeed most likely let you put the special weapons on any model.

That's not how modern kits work at all.

Take the recent CSM kit. The Plasma Gun is meant to go on one of the torsos. It's also the torso that can have the Missile Launcher. You wanted both? That's too bad, unless you finagle a new way of doing it.

 Crimson wrote:
Also quite possibly a joke.

I guarantee you it was't.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
So there is no actual issue then? The multipart kits will indeed most likely let you put the special weapons on any model.

That's not how modern kits work at all.

Take the recent CSM kit. The Plasma Gun is meant to go on one of the torsos. It's also the torso that can have the Missile Launcher. You wanted both? That's too bad, unless you finagle a new way of doing it.

This plasmagun that is a completely separate piece that you can easily use instead of any bolter? This one?

 Crimson wrote:
Also quite possibly a joke.

I guarantee you it was't.

If you say so. I'm not a telepath like you, so I wouldn't know.

 Crimson wrote:
This plasmagun that is a completely separate piece that you can easily use instead of any bolter? This one?

Do you own the kit? If you did, you'd have the instructions, the instructions that show you how to build each miniature, and which numbered parts fit with other parts.

That plasma gun fits with one set of arms, that fit with one torso. I'm sure you can find a way to make it work with other torsos, but that's not the point. The point is that GW's modern kits have fewer options (and poses) as they need to be built a specific way.

The specific torso in this instance can have the plasma gun, the missile launcher, one one specific bolter. No other torsos take the plasma gun or missile launcher, so, as I said, if you want both (and don't want to have to convert a kit just to use basic weaponry) you'll need a second box.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
This plasmagun that is a completely separate piece that you can easily use instead of any bolter? This one?

Do you own the kit? If you did, you'd have the instructions, the instructions that show you how to build each miniature, and which numbered parts fit with other parts.

That plasma gun fits with one set of arms, that fit with one torso. I'm sure you can find a way to make it work with other torsos, but that's not the point. The point is that GW's modern kits have fewer options (and poses) as they need to be built a specific way.

The specific torso in this instance can have the plasma gun, the missile launcher, one one specific bolter. No other torsos take the plasma gun or missile launcher, so, as I said, if you want both (and don't want to have to convert a kit just to use basic weaponry) you'll need a second box.

That's nonsense. I don't have that specific kit, but the Primaris instructions are like that too. Those instructions are just suggestions. In reality all arms fit on all torsos. They cannot feasibly list every possible combination of parts on their instructions.

 Crimson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
This plasmagun that is a completely separate piece that you can easily use instead of any bolter? This one?

Do you own the kit? If you did, you'd have the instructions, the instructions that show you how to build each miniature, and which numbered parts fit with other parts.

That plasma gun fits with one set of arms, that fit with one torso. I'm sure you can find a way to make it work with other torsos, but that's not the point. The point is that GW's modern kits have fewer options (and poses) as they need to be built a specific way.

The specific torso in this instance can have the plasma gun, the missile launcher, one one specific bolter. No other torsos take the plasma gun or missile launcher, so, as I said, if you want both (and don't want to have to convert a kit just to use basic weaponry) you'll need a second box.



I have the Kit and if you are not capable of fitting the plasma-gun as swap. God help you if you ever buy forgeworld models as each one of those require more " hobbiyng" than this did.

The box art is rather gorgeous......

 Mr Morden wrote:
The box art is rather gorgeous......

I believe the art is from Igor Sid but I'm not really sure, he obviously hasn't uploaded anything to his artstation yet.

I hope it does. I really want it.

That's almost certainly a Paul Dainton piece.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
This plasmagun that is a completely separate piece that you can easily use instead of any bolter? This one?

Do you own the kit? If you did, you'd have the instructions, the instructions that show you how to build each miniature, and which numbered parts fit with other parts.

That plasma gun fits with one set of arms, that fit with one torso. I'm sure you can find a way to make it work with other torsos, but that's not the point. The point is that GW's modern kits have fewer options (and poses) as they need to be built a specific way.

The specific torso in this instance can have the plasma gun, the missile launcher, one one specific bolter. No other torsos take the plasma gun or missile launcher, so, as I said, if you want both (and don't want to have to convert a kit just to use basic weaponry) you'll need a second box.

I own 3 of the kits and not once did I follow their instructions on anything. Did the same for the havocs as well, fitting lascannons on each body.

So either you haven't built any of the kits or your applying generous amounts of hyperbole to your experience.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
That's almost certainly a Paul Dainton piece.

Do you know where one could find the art of Paul Daiton?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
See you say that, but when the Sisters Repentia were revealed there was one person on GW's facebook that praised GW for not having the Mistress as she would take the Repentia's agency away.

I think you should tell us this story. In this thread. Again. I know you want it. I know you have the screenshots ready somewhere. What's the harm in just one more time?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Do you own the kit? If you did, you'd have the instructions, the instructions that show you how to build each miniature, and which numbered parts fit with other parts.

Chaos + scrupulously following instruction =
What sorcery is that?

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
This plasmagun that is a completely separate piece that you can easily use instead of any bolter? This one?

Do you own the kit? If you did, you'd have the instructions, the instructions that show you how to build each miniature, and which numbered parts fit with other parts.

That plasma gun fits with one set of arms, that fit with one torso. I'm sure you can find a way to make it work with other torsos, but that's not the point. The point is that GW's modern kits have fewer options (and poses) as they need to be built a specific way.

The specific torso in this instance can have the plasma gun, the missile launcher, one one specific bolter. No other torsos take the plasma gun or missile launcher, so, as I said, if you want both (and don't want to have to convert a kit just to use basic weaponry) you'll need a second box.

I own 3 of the kits and not once did I follow their instructions on anything. Did the same for the havocs as well, fitting lascannons on each body.

So either you haven't built any of the kits or your applying generous amounts of hyperbole to your experience.

I had the same experience with Custodes and Sisters of Silence.
Ok, things dont go as smooth if you don't follow the instructios but you can nearly built them as you want except with some very specific and "big" pieces.

Don’t remind me of the Custodes instructions. The copy I had (photocopied from BoP I presume, since I purchased the models on eBay right after they came out) didn’t even tell you which arms fit with the fifth spear. I ended up abandoning Custodes because I couldn’t get that one stupid model to work.

 Galas wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
That's almost certainly a Paul Dainton piece.

Do you know where one could find the art of Paul Daiton?

I don't think Dainton has an official online portfolio, which is a shame. I don't know of any artbooks either. I think he has an Instagram account, but that's mostly for private sketch work.

Google is your best bet.

 Crimson wrote:
I sometimes wonder how people here manage to even assemble their models... It is unlikely that the corpse is even in the same piece than the leg, and if it is you can just chew it off or do whatever you normally do to get the models off the sprue.

Quite well thank you. But having a ton of extra unnecessary work doesn't help anyone.

Just to ask - where is this idea that the models in the box won't be the "proper" kits coming from? Is it just the idea that previous pre-main-release boxed sets have tended to have bespoke and often less-flexible models in them, or has there been some specific indication?

Because I don't think it's safe to make any assumptions about this box based on previous ones, given how different it is. In fact other than maybe the Cannoness which it's been suggested might be limited to that box and event attendees, I fully expect it to have the full and complete new kits in it - it's a special edition codex with a Start Collecting tacked on for a no doubt extremely premium price("as a reward" lul), not the usual affairs intended to hype interest for a new army(the year of previews has already done that in this case) or to shift a bunch of old stock by bundling them with temporarily-exclusive newshiny models.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Also quite possibly a joke.

I guarantee you it was't.

Poe’s Law; not just for fundamentalism.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
The aim is to go through religious ritual. A penitent is given the chance to redeem themselves by getting killed in the Emperor's service. The thing the Ecclesiarchy is spending its money on is not an effective war machine and the Ecclesiarchy's concern is not the enemy it is sent against, it's all about saving the heretic. You can't put a price on salvation.

Ok but then make it a T3 HP2/3 model or something.

I expect the engine is a life support machine as well as a walking stockade. The intent is to put the penitent in a very dangerous situation and keep them suffering there. There's probably a ton of coagulents, frenzon and stuff (but no painkillers) pumped through their veins as well as synaptic overrides to keep the nervous system fro shutting down due to shock- and prevent the heart from failing.

Cut them down to just a torso and they'll keep going until the end of the battle. Shoot the neck and sever the head from the body and the machine will keep the head alive long enough for it to kill you in retaliation.

Then they'll hose it down and stick in your best friend who survived the battle and on to attack the nearest concentration of your side.

Its the human version of this:

 Crimson wrote:
So there is no actual issue then? The multipart kits will indeed most likely let you put the special weapons on any model.

And even on monopose models swapping a bolter and flamer around on duplicate models wouldn't be exactly hard.

Yeah, the original post you replied snarkily to like I didn't know how to convert models for some reason was "I hope the monoposed-with-a-corpse flamer model is only in the box set and not in the final multipart kit"

So yeah, if that will be the case, then there will be no issue, but unfortunately my dog that works at gw didn't tell me about that like yours did.


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 Yodhrin wrote:
Just to ask - where is this idea that the models in the box won't be the "proper" kits coming from? Is it just the idea that previous pre-main-release boxed sets have tended to have bespoke and often less-flexible models in them, or has there been some specific indication?

Because I don't think it's safe to make any assumptions about this box based on previous ones, given how different it is. In fact other than maybe the Cannoness which it's been suggested might be limited to that box and event attendees, I fully expect it to have the full and complete new kits in it - it's a special edition codex with a Start Collecting tacked on for a no doubt extremely premium price("as a reward" lul), not the usual affairs intended to hype interest for a new army(the year of previews has already done that in this case) or to shift a bunch of old stock by bundling them with temporarily-exclusive newshiny models.

Mostly just a guess based on the fact they did that for Primaris Waves 2 and 1 CSM Deathwatch GSC etc. The initial box comes out monopose with several units having repeated poses, and the final kits are (a little bit) more flexible and come with different weapons. The last time they released new armies without that style of box release was...Harlequins/Admech in early 7th?

The characters will be the final character sprues that eventually come in clampacks, but the units may be a limited pose version of what the troops will eventually be.

It looks like there are multiple repeated poses between the three previewed squads, so I'm leaning towards a easy-to-build or introductory style army set with either the Canoness and/or the Penitent Engine added.

3 battle sisters, 2 repentia and 2 seraphim on a repeated sprue with a separate sprue for 1x sister superior, 1x imagifier, 1x sister superior seraphim,1x mistress of repentance, 1x battle sister with flamer and 1x battle sister with storm bolter.

The penitent engine could be mixed in on the other sprues or a full kit. The canoness has already been confirmed as separate.

Makes sense, but obviously I could just as easily be wrong.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Also quite possibly a joke.

I guarantee you it was't.

Poe’s Law; not just for fundamentalism.

Nah, it was real.

I...think I recognize that avatar?

Anyway, excited to see all of this moving forward!

If there is no real Inquisition element to things, I won't be fielding a SoB army, but I'm really happy for everyone who has waited a long time for all of this.

 Alpharius wrote:
IIf there is no real Inquisition element to things, I won't be fielding a SoB army, but I'm really happy for everyone who has waited a long time for all of this.

There won't be (unfortunately, in a way) because these days GW will write a codex even for the tiniest niche faction, so there's really no reason to have the Inquisition in an Ecclesiarchy codex.

Of course there's also that little problem with the current designers apparently thinking Inquisition has no place in 40k. Something like that might get in the way a little bit, too.

I've been meaning to convert a new Inquisitor for ages, but it's just so damn hard to guess the exact combination of exotic wargear every single Inquisitor in the galaxy will use once GW does get around to giving the Inquisition some love.

I wouldn't object to getting baldy from the Psychic Awakening video. I like her. Well, her look anyway. She's a bit hysterical there. Just because there's this little Chaos incursion going on way over there in the background, hardly in sight of anyone. Kind of points to a lack of faith in the Emperor.

You see that? People like that have no place in a Sisters book. Come on! Lack. Of. Faith. That's just not a good fit.