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 Hollow wrote:
Well, at risk of being called a GW sycophant, I really like everything I have seen regarding this release. The models, The Art work. Literally everything...

Honestly, I generally do too. There is nothing in here I hate in terms of the sculpts. I think the Repentia could be better, but I want to see what sprue options there are (which I suppose will be little to none), and I think once I convert the tops into ragged tabards I'll like them just fine. I even like the Cannoness collar nearly everyone seems to hate.

I'm glad I kept open some shelf space for these guys.

The only thing I don't like is how crappy that Cannonness sprue is. No alternate weapons, no alternate heads? That's just lazy. Even if the heads are swappable with the rest of the sister heads, there was plenty of room in there for a few extra bits to jazz the model up a little. It seems like even as GWS sculpts get better and better, as a modeller they seem to get more boring in terms of lack of options and posing. Not a problem specific to this release, just kind of sad this is the direction they continue to trend into.

no time this afternoon before my Warcry match to peruse all 85 pages.. Forgive if this is repetition, but two questions:

have they guaranteed Kill Team rules for the Sisters?

and secondly, does a vehicle come it the box?

No, just implied.

A penitent engine, if that count as a vehicle.

I hate them all.... Not enough skulls!!!

Some nice art in there.
I love the look of those swords. Those look much much better than the sword the Cannoness has with the weird pommel bit. Shield on that sister looks cool, love the detail.

That big art...oddly, I see a lot I don't like. The repentia make me cringe, the Pengine doesn't look as big or powerful or imposing as other art of its older version. Arco looks good though.

The sister charging in with the sword has a pose that I've seen in a million space marine pics. Worst offender to me is the Seraphim who looks like she's taking a dump.

Aside from that I love the older style art feel they've got going on.

I didn't consider the saint in the background being generic- I'm certainly hoping for generic.

If a sister unit comes with shield and weapon...I dunno. Sword and board is the crusaders shtick, maul and board seems more of a dark angel one. Honestly don't know how I feel about mellee sisters when there's already oother armies that have a signature look or a battle conclave unit that fills their niche...

Be great if there are generic living saints now

and thats a proper holy storm shield for celestains/characters.

Loving all the art shown on last few pages

I haven't been paying attention, are the new sisters on 32mm bases?

They look good to me - What is that flying humaniod thing in the art work? Vaguely like a chicken-cheribum-griffen-blood angel. Could work for me though! Weirdly, I thought the first picture was from a gallery I've seen here on Dakka doing kind of spiffed up classic sisters, so I think they work well with the old range.

Sword and a shield huh? I wonder what that means as far as miniatures?

Have we seen the Celestians yet? Maybe they are turning them into or making a ,new sisters Melee unit.

thats one of the things i actually wanted when i was hoping for updates. I don't think that's what is happening though.

Please, please, please let there be a model of the sword and board Sister. A non-Repentia melee unit would be a nice addition to the codex.

And she looks cool!

Looks like the old 4th edition master artists, who’ve been supplying more art of late. Artwork looks phenomenal.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sword and a shield huh? I wonder what that means as far as miniatures?

Absolutely nothing, 3rd edition codex had art of Sister with the same loadout, five editions later and they didn't appear even in BL books, never mind actual model, even KT or BSF one...

 bullyboy wrote:
It really started with the chaos release. The first picture of the tiny spider monster (Urban Conquest art?) that became a model. This followed by the Arch Discordant (way in the back of artwork) and the chaos chaplain dude (in same artwork). Not saying it's a specific pattern, but the ark could really be a thing and would sit in a Sisters army quite well.

Except that big CSM art with terminator champion with two handed flaming mace squaring off against primaris gravis captain never materialized. Ditto with honor guard chapter banner held by (primaris ?) HG ancient behind said captain. And that was centrepiece promo art, not look-and-forget codex picture, sooo...

 insaniak wrote:

angel of death 007 wrote:
I mean how many years has passed just to basically transfer over is really an injustice.

What you've missed is that the time passed is precisely so that the existing designs could be transferred to plastic.

The studio (or specifically Jes Goodwin) has always been staunchly against the idea of redesigning sisters, and they've said as much on multiple occasions. And until now, the technology GW were using just wasn't up to rendering this design in plastic.

We're getting plastic sisters now precisely because GW can now produce plastic models that look like the metal ones.

Couldn't the same be said for all the necromunda models that were redone/ rereleased. They did modify them and they still kept more of the same style yet made the sculpts a bit better overall. Looking at the clan models from before and then the remakes I think GW did a fantastic job. I just don't see the same thing with the new SoB or whatever fake Latin name GW wants to give there stuff nowadays. When I see the sculpts a part of me was hoping for a subtle change like they did in Necromunda is all I am saying. They don't need to go all out like RH did. I am glad RH did their thing though. It both filled a gap in the aged non available metal models and gave people kind of what they wanted as it was a Kickstarter so it actually took in the opinions of their customers, unlike GW who stayed stagnent for how many years again, despite numerous people voicing their opinions, even in their massive survey. Sister's were in demand. GW ignored it. Competition made some money and now GW wants to arrive late to the party wearing yesteryears dress.

The only thing really not retro will surely be their obnoxious prices which I am sure will end up shell shocking some. I am thinking it will be to the tune of $50 USD for 5. It is amazing how nothing has remotely mentioned pricing yet? I was just hoping for a more necromunda style approach to an aged design. Call me crazy if you wish as it is just an opinion.

I wouldn't be surprised if that image of a holy procession around a dead saint becomes a set of miniatures. They'd be super characterful. Sisters wielding sword and shield would be amazing and a good way to depict Celestians.

 Ouze wrote:

 Hollow wrote:
Well, at risk of being called a GW sycophant, I really like everything I have seen regarding this release. The models, The Art work. Literally everything...

Honestly, I generally do too. There is nothing in here I hate in terms of the sculpts. I think the Repentia could be better, but I want to see what sprue options there are (which I suppose will be little to none), and I think once I convert the tops into ragged tabards I'll like them just fine. I even like the Cannoness collar nearly everyone seems to hate.

I'm glad I kept open some shelf space for these guys.

The only thing I don't like is how crappy that Cannonness sprue is. No alternate weapons, no alternate heads? That's just lazy. Even if the heads are swappable with the rest of the sister heads, there was plenty of room in there for a few extra bits to jazz the model up a little. It seems like even as GWS sculpts get better and better, as a modeller they seem to get more boring in terms of lack of options and posing. Not a problem specific to this release, just kind of sad this is the direction they continue to trend into.

The single sprue, no options plastic heroes seems to be how GW has been doing them for a while. I miss the options too, but It only seems like dual kits will get them.

angel of death 007 wrote:
Couldn't the same be said for all the necromunda models that were redone/ rereleased.

Clearly not, since they were updated. And no, they didn't keep the same style. Most of the current gangs bear at best only a passing resemblance to their forebears.


You seem to be still missing the point, though - yes, GW could have updated the look of the Sisters. They didn't want to, which is why it's taken so long to get them in plastic... and most Sisters fans, from what I've seen, are more than happy that they didn't.

Change for the sake of change is not a good thing. If the existing design works both aesthetically and mechanically, there is no particular reason to change it, and doing so serves no purpose other than to irritate people who have existing collections.

angel of death 007 wrote:The only thing really not retro will surely be their obnoxious prices which I am sure will end up shell shocking some. I am thinking it will be to the tune of $50 USD for 5. It is amazing how nothing has remotely mentioned pricing yet? I was just hoping for a more necromunda style approach to an aged design. Call me crazy if you wish as it is just an opinion.

No, it isn't amazing how nothing has remotely mentioned pricing yet. Prices are known as soon as they are leaked via some retailer, and only confirmed for all currencies when the products are up on the webstore. They're not typically the stuff of Warhammer Community preview articles. But yeah, who knows, maybe one of the next Battle Sister Bulletins will be "here's a preview of the eyewatering pricetags that will be adorning this lovely new range. Isn't it exciting!".
As for the redesign, well, we are bound to disagree. Many people quite clearly don't want something different, they want SoB that look like SoB. In plastic. And both today and 10 years from now, that design stands up a lot better than the mostly cringey stuff produced by Raging Heroes.

Sasori wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Hollow wrote:
Well, at risk of being called a GW sycophant, I really like everything I have seen regarding this release. The models, The Art work. Literally everything...

Honestly, I generally do too. There is nothing in here I hate in terms of the sculpts. I think the Repentia could be better, but I want to see what sprue options there are (which I suppose will be little to none), and I think once I convert the tops into ragged tabards I'll like them just fine. I even like the Cannoness collar nearly everyone seems to hate.

I'm glad I kept open some shelf space for these guys.

The only thing I don't like is how crappy that Cannonness sprue is. No alternate weapons, no alternate heads? That's just lazy. Even if the heads are swappable with the rest of the sister heads, there was plenty of room in there for a few extra bits to jazz the model up a little. It seems like even as GWS sculpts get better and better, as a modeller they seem to get more boring in terms of lack of options and posing. Not a problem specific to this release, just kind of sad this is the direction they continue to trend into.

The single sprue, no options plastic heroes seems to be how GW has been doing them for a while. I miss the options too, but It only seems like dual kits will get them.

The Genestealer Cult characters have some options at least. Locus has a bunch of different heads, the Magus.. well, just the one option for a different left hand. Still, it's more than nothing. If anything, this seems like something that would merely help competitors that can simply create similar characters in new poses, for added variation in your force.

drbored wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if that image of a holy procession around a dead saint becomes a set of miniatures. They'd be super characterful. Sisters wielding sword and shield would be amazing and a good way to depict Celestians.

A terrain piece similar to the Noctilith Crown perhaps? I'd buy at least two.


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The article does have me curious though. It would be odd to have Arco-flagellants and Penitent Engines without a plastic Ministronum Priest to control them. A separate character blister pack, maybe?

The sword and board sister could be either a Celestian Superior or a Palatine if they give us a Lieutenant-style battle leader.


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 vipoid wrote:

 schoon wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
That is a gorgeous model. Wish it was a Canoness.

She certainly could be with a bit of work. That's one of the great things about plastics - much easier to modify.

So you honestly think there will be rules for a jump-pack Canoness?

Probably, not. But given the example of Space marines using stratagems to give unit champions, special issue equipment, relics, and warlord traits. We maybe able to tool her pretty pretty well. There's also the option of taking a living saint; either generic or named she'll have the fly rule.

 Irbis wrote:
Absolutely nothing, 3rd edition codex had art of Sister with the same loadout, five editions later and they didn't appear even in BL books, never mind actual model, even KT or BSF one...

Aiight sparky. No need to jump down my throat. And who cares if it appears or doesn't appear in BL books? When has that ever meant anything.

I just think it looks cool, and would be a great option for Celestians, that's all.

angel of death 007 wrote:
Couldn't the same be said for all the necromunda models that were redone/ rereleased.

Not really. Cawdor, Orlocks and Escher remain roughly the same as they once were. Goliaths have a similar style (with a little less punk/bondage going on) but are much bigger. Van Saar have changed quite a bit, in both the style of their suits and their heads (they're no longer a gang of well groomed men). And the new Delaques look nothing like the old Delaques (unless you count "are bald" as being their single defining trait), going from trenchcoat mafia to Dark City villains.

Compared to what we've seen of Sisters or even the new Banshee, the Necro minis are vastly different from the originals.

Sister model from NOVA Open came with a 32mm base.

They're on 32 mm bases, you can clearly see it on the video.

there is the plastic priest from Blackstone fortress. So that's probably where they'll get it from.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
If you want sexy nuns with guns, just go to Hitman.

On the flip side of that through, some of the new art looks like they did headswaps with primaris marines.

Do you want to say something about my new avatar, Baron ?

Racerguy180 wrote:
there is the plastic priest from Blackstone fortress. So that's probably where they'll get it from.

Nah, he's not on a separate sprue. The only one that came on a separate sprue was Mallex, and he was released alongside the CSM. It's worth noting that the cultist champion from the other Blackstone supplement also got put on a separate sprue. Sadly, the Crusader and other adventurers are on the same sprue.

they can make a separate mold for him, for all we know, BSF was designed before they made the decision to release plastic Sororitas. Now that they have a shiny new army to put him in they could do it rather easily.

Or they'll just make a new one.

angel of death 007 wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

angel of death 007 wrote:
I mean how many years has passed just to basically transfer over is really an injustice.

What you've missed is that the time passed is precisely so that the existing designs could be transferred to plastic.

The studio (or specifically Jes Goodwin) has always been staunchly against the idea of redesigning sisters, and they've said as much on multiple occasions. And until now, the technology GW were using just wasn't up to rendering this design in plastic.

We're getting plastic sisters now precisely because GW can now produce plastic models that look like the metal ones.

Couldn't the same be said for all the necromunda models that were redone/ rereleased. They did modify them and they still kept more of the same style yet made the sculpts a bit better overall. Looking at the clan models from before and then the remakes I think GW did a fantastic job. I just don't see the same thing with the new SoB or whatever fake Latin name GW wants to give there stuff nowadays. When I see the sculpts a part of me was hoping for a subtle change like they did in Necromunda is all I am saying. They don't need to go all out like RH did. I am glad RH did their thing though. It both filled a gap in the aged non available metal models and gave people kind of what they wanted as it was a Kickstarter so it actually took in the opinions of their customers, unlike GW who stayed stagnent for how many years again, despite numerous people voicing their opinions, even in their massive survey. Sister's were in demand. GW ignored it. Competition made some money and now GW wants to arrive late to the party wearing yesteryears dress.

The only thing really not retro will surely be their obnoxious prices which I am sure will end up shell shocking some. I am thinking it will be to the tune of $50 USD for 5. It is amazing how nothing has remotely mentioned pricing yet? I was just hoping for a more necromunda style approach to an aged design. Call me crazy if you wish as it is just an opinion.

Given how the old sisters are currently priced, the cost will go down. $50 for 5 is unlikely- not even dire avengers or scions are that bad.
A basic sisters squad is currently $80, with single models (if, for example you want squads that aren't 1 meltagun and 1 stormbolter) being an extra $15 each.
Retributors are $110.

Granted, the canoness will definitely be more than the current $15 one, and the immolator will likely be more than $40, but the squads should definitely see a cost decrease (and better options per box).

We know how much the basic Sisters box will be - £35.

It was in the terms and conditions of the last community survey.